May 25, 2014 9:06 am -

OllieGarkey at Kos discovered some of Elliot Rodger’s history.

We know for a fact that Rodgers was influenced by this movement, as he is subscribed to multiple “pick up artist” or “mens rights” channels on YouTube. (For those here that don’t use YouTube, when a user subscribes to a channel, they receive notifications when that channel posts a new video.)

They include:

“The Player Supreme Show” which rails against the feminization of men and talks about how to pick up women.

“RSDfreetour” which is a series of self-help seminars run by RSD Nation, a “pick up artist” site.

There’s also a user called McHenry Cruiser who in addition to being a pickup artist is a comedian who has some kind of beef with Louis CK, and another called “Squatting Cassanova,” who seems to be your average PUA.

I’m still digging through some of the folks he’s subscribed to.

He is what the Men’s Rights movement calls an “Incel” which is short for involuntary celibacy. It’s a hot topic in various parts of the manosphere…

So this kid who needed some serious mental help sought out the destructive, BS views coming from the men’s rights movement. He felt entitled to sex with women. He blamed women for not providing him with sex. He exposed himself to hateful rhetoric about women.

And then he acted on that hatred, and targeted college girls for a drive-by shooting, killed six, wounded seven, and then shot himself.

D.B. Hirsch
D.B. Hirsch is a political activist, news junkie, and retired ad copy writer and spin doctor. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.

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  1. fools2234 May 25th, 2014 at 9:39 am

    You do know that all of the channels you liberals are using as “proof” of his involvement with the mens movement are actually pick up artist channels…

    Not a single mens rights channel among them. Don’t let that get in the way of your bs tho.

    • fools2234 May 25th, 2014 at 9:41 am

      And for the record, those evil mras are attempting to address these issues, not trying to pick up women:

      Attempting to conflate pick up artists with mens rights advocates is both desperate and pathetic.

      • Anomaly 100 May 25th, 2014 at 1:58 pm

        What a ridiculous link. The Rape Shield Law is in place for a reason. Google is your friend.

        • Jonathan Taylor May 25th, 2014 at 5:59 pm

          Rape shield laws protect the accuser but not the accused. That’s discrimination.

          Equality is your friend.

          • Anomaly 100 May 25th, 2014 at 6:28 pm

            No, it’s really not. That’s just b.s. A woman’s past should not be entered into the equation. You’re trying to say ‘she asked for it.’

          • Jonathan Taylor May 26th, 2014 at 4:09 am

            You have no idea what I’m trying to say, so like most friends of Feminists you just assume and name call. Her past should enter into it in certain circumstances. Example:

            A woman has sex with men A and B in a hot tub and slips and gets a bruise.

            The next day, a woman has sex with man C. The next day she falsely accuses him of rape. She then uses the bruise as “evidence” that she was forcibly raped by man C.

            In reality, however, the bruise came from her slipping on a hot tub the day prior when she was having sex with men A and B. Man C knows this, but he can’t call men A and B as witnesses to exonerate himself because of rape shield laws.

            So yes, relevant. Furthermore, some judges have interpreted rape shield laws to mean that a woman’s history of falsely accusing men should not be entered as evidence when she (falsely) accuses the next man of rape.

            So yes, rape shield laws have certain problems. But if I was acting like you, all I would do is make no argument at all and instead say ZOMG ALL YOU WANT TO DO IS FALSELY ACCUSE MEN OF RAPE.

            Doesn’t sound very intelligent, does it?

          • Anomaly 100 May 26th, 2014 at 8:27 am

            Again, I really hope it never happens to you because it’s happened to most females.

          • Jonathan Taylor May 26th, 2014 at 9:39 am

            Pretty much what I figured. You can’t refute anything and instead come back with histrionics.

            Actually, I am a rape victim. About a hundred times over. And so is my dad, my uncle, my brother, and so forth. Pretty much everybody is a rape victim now, according to the expanded definitions that Feminism has advocated.

            I’ve had sex when under the influence of alcohol – which impairs and hence negates my consent. I’ve had sex whenever my consent wasn’t “enthusiastic” at every stage, which Feminists tell me is the same as rape. I’ve also had sex where I was asked repeatedly before I said yes, which – to Feminists – amounts to “sexual coercion.”

            So yes, according to most Feminists I am a rape victim. And so is everyone else. Not that special a crime when everyone on earth is a victim of it, is it? And rape victims owe that trivialization of rape to Feminists like you.

            Congratulations! Your hard work is paying off.

          • Anomaly 100 May 26th, 2014 at 11:53 am

            I didn’t debate you because your too far gone. Sometimes, it’s not worth my time.

            Have a nice day though.

          • Carla Akins May 25th, 2014 at 6:34 pm

            Please tell me, what could they possibly find in her past that would excuse rape? Please enlighten us.

          • fools2234 May 25th, 2014 at 6:48 pm

            Read the link you moron. Rape shield law has already lead to excluded evidence and forced an innocent man to plead guilty. Not that you feminist types give a shi+

          • Anomaly 100 May 25th, 2014 at 6:52 pm

            “Feminists types.”

            Please forgive my gender for holding you back for centuries. We know how we’ve kicked you down the ladder of success while we reaped all the financial rewards. Thanks!

          • Jonathan Taylor May 26th, 2014 at 4:20 am

            Ah, the “woe is me, the world has always been in men’s favor” line. Men are overrepresented at the top and bottom of society. There are far more men who are homeless, who are killed in war, who languish in prison, and who die on the job than men who are CEOs, politicians, and so forth.

            You hate all men because a few men are at the top, but you don’t feel compassion for men for the huge numbers of men who are at the bottom. To you, the world revolves around your vulnerabilities, your suffering, your experiences.

            THAT is why you are a Feminist. And for no other reason. Well, a lot of people have hard enough of your way of thinking. A lot of people are ready for the idea that both sexes have issues of concern, and – crazy idea! – they always have.

            Not just MRAs, but the broad masses of people. They’re tired of your hateful, bigoted ideology.

          • Carla Akins May 25th, 2014 at 7:07 pm

            Name calling, nice way to start the conversation. False accusations are less than 5% of all rape charges. Those are actual charges, many are not even charged. I do not know a single woman that hasn’t experienced sexual abuse at some level, and we already know that it’s vastly underreported.

            If you are mugged, or car-jacked the crime is investigated – not the background of the victim. Rape shield laws are in place due to decades long horrific treatment of rape victims. No one should be jailed for a crime they didn’t commit, but a single case, or a handful of cases does not outweigh the intent and reason for the Shield law.

          • Jonathan Taylor May 26th, 2014 at 4:14 am

            False accusations range from anywhere from 8 to 90%. No one knows the exact number. Many law enforcement experts, including prosecutors such as Craig Silverman who have made careers out of jailing rapists, place the rate of false accusations around 40%.

            In conclusion, we don’t know how many there are. Just like we don’t know how many rapes there are. But we know there is enough of both for them to be a problem, and that victims of both types of crimes – not just one – deserve our compassion and support.

            Now THAT’S a progressive and egalitarian approach!

          • Jonathan Taylor May 26th, 2014 at 4:05 am

            No one said that. And if you actually think that, chances are you aren’t capable of being enlightened.

          • Carla Akins May 26th, 2014 at 7:00 am

            So you can’t.

        • fools2234 May 25th, 2014 at 6:47 pm

          Yes, I am sure you feminists love the rape shield law. It protects the accuser’s identity but not the accused. I guess you also forgot to read where your precious rape shield law lead to EXCLUDED evidence and forced an innocent men to plead guilty. Yea its so great tho, because it doesn’t discriminate against the gender feminists care about.

          • Anomaly 100 May 25th, 2014 at 6:54 pm

            One innocent man? That is really awful. On that I agree. But, the amount of men getting a slap on the wrist, if even that, after being the perpetrator of a soul-crushing act is inexcusable.

            I hope it never happens to you. I mean that from the bottom of my heart.