What Could Go Wrong? Texas Officials Propose Selling Booze At Gun Shows
The Texas agency that regulates alcohol sales is considering a rule change that would allow alcohol to be served at gun shows, as long as all the guns are disabled and there is no live ammunition on the premises, The Texas Tribune reports.
For some reason, freedom means alcohol and guns together. There are rules in place and thankfully we know that people that drink never, ever break rules. Not ever. For example, people never drink and drive.
Under current rules, venues licensed by the Texas Alcoholic Beverage Commission must suspend alcohol sales and drinking during gun shows, including during setup and dismantling of the shows. The proposed change, which was announced Friday and is open to public comments for 30 days, would allow locations that are owned or leased by government or nonprofit organizations, and which only show or display guns “occasionally,” to to sell alcohol during those events as long as they meet three conditions: There can be no live ammunition in the facility; all guns must be “disabled and not readily convertible for use,” and no guns sold can be delivered to buyers on the premises. The proposed rule would also allow alcohol sales at historical reenactments that involve firearms, as long as the firearms are historically accurate and kept unloaded or loaded with blanks.
Commission spokeswoman Carolyn Beck explained that the proposed rule change was considered after a gun club asked for a reconsideration of the ban. Beck said the commission took a closer look, and it concluded that “if there wasn’t going to be any live ammunition, and the guns on display would be disabled, and they didn’t transfer weapons to people there where the drinks were, then that wasn’t such a big public safety risk.”
According to the Associated Press, the Texas affiliate of the National Rifle Association said it had nothing to do with the request. The Texas State Rifle Association is still reviewing the proposal, Alice Tripp said, the group’s legislative director. She called it “confusing” and questioned whether gun advocates would want to attend gun shows with such restrictions. “Does that make any sense? Who would buy a gun at a gun show where you couldn’t take possession of it?” she remarked. “Nobody is interested in selling alcohol at a gun show,” Tripp added.
Not true. I was specifically told several times last night and this morning on Twitter that this should not be a problem because an unloaded gun will not load itself and it’s an inanimate object. Because guns don’t drink.
So the guns will be drinking? @RATM4 @tazcat2011 @damagedgears @synchronicitisi @TomCinmidlife @thepoliticalcat @Anomaly100 — MrsLibertas (@Bloviate_Barbie) August 9, 2014
Because if it’s not intentional, it’s OK.
I guess they are presuming, in lib world, a gun show where they drink/shoot intentionally @tazcat2011@RATM4@dadsagainstmda@Anomaly100 — MrsLibertas (@Bloviate_Barbie) August 9, 2014
My point is, after dozens upon dozens of tweets which were sent to me, apparently not all gun owners object to this proposed rule change.
edmeyer_able August 9th, 2014 at 11:19 am
Darwin will be standing at the entrance passing out awards.
Pistol-Packing August 9th, 2014 at 11:23 am
Honestly, based upon the rules that are being proposed. Nobody would want alcohol to be served anyways. So, I don’t understand, why anybody would even want this rule change.
Larry Schmitt August 9th, 2014 at 11:24 am
Let’s combine a couple of recent Liberaland stories, and sell booze at Gun Shows for the Blind!
labman57 August 9th, 2014 at 11:28 am
Step 1) Drink several shots
Step 2) Avoid getting shot
whatthe46 August 9th, 2014 at 11:00 pm
i hope they are not successful in step 2.
Larry Schmitt August 9th, 2014 at 11:31 am
In a country where you can’t even buy a drink on election day, (and after looking at the choices, what better time for a drink?) why would you even want booze to be available at a gun show?
uzza August 9th, 2014 at 11:44 am
Where I live, if it’s Sunday I can buy a gun but I can’t buy a beer.
Carla Akins August 9th, 2014 at 11:57 am
Ah, blue laws. MO finally allowed alcohol sales between 9am and midnight but you still can’t buy a car or motorcycle on Sunday.
Larry Schmitt August 9th, 2014 at 12:09 pm
Some place in Arizona still has a law on the books against driving your cattle down the street on Sunday. Useful in its day perhaps, but not likely to be invoked now.
BanditBasheert August 9th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Because it’s Texas and that’s when them thar tuff guys do.
Larry Schmitt August 9th, 2014 at 1:04 pm
One of the Raymond Chandler novels I read years ago (I can’t remember which one) had a bar with a drive up window, where you could get a drink in your car. This was set in Los Angeles. I grew up with a drive in liquor store down the street, but the idea of a drive up bar is beyond reason.
Rocket Don August 9th, 2014 at 6:16 pm
In the early eighties when I was in Texas there was a place called The Daiquiri Factory with a drive-up window only – you couldn’t even go in!
whatthe46 August 9th, 2014 at 10:58 pm
there’s one in san antonio today.
burqa August 9th, 2014 at 11:39 pm
Brew-Thru is a chain.
whatthe46 August 9th, 2014 at 10:57 pm
they have them in texas you know.
burqa August 9th, 2014 at 11:35 pm
It just shows how far we have come, Mr. Schmitt. Back in the early days of the republic, politicians were expected to have barrels of booze at polling places for voters. George Washington brought whiskey made at Mount Vernon, and in the last few years they have been making and selling whiskey there from the same recipe he used.
Carla Akins August 9th, 2014 at 11:53 am
Isn’t there an issue with buying/entering a contract of sale while under the influence?
Larry Schmitt August 9th, 2014 at 12:07 pm
If there isn’t there should be.
William August 9th, 2014 at 11:54 am
What could possibly go wrong?
BanditBasheert August 9th, 2014 at 12:39 pm
Just be glad you don’t live there.
mea_mark August 9th, 2014 at 1:19 pm
Yeah, really. Oh wait, too late for me.
Anomaly 100 August 9th, 2014 at 2:52 pm
Ha ha on you!
Chinese Democracy August 11th, 2014 at 1:57 am
The ted cruz nutballs cant hang on forever in Texas. Texas is mostly urban .. very large cities .. and the rest is empty . I lived in Houston for a yr and they elected an out gay mayor. Baby steps I guess
arc99 August 9th, 2014 at 11:59 am
Such a sense of entitlement from these people. Not only do they want to parade around anywhere and everywhere with their precious guns, they want to engage in recreational drug use while purchasing those guns.
BanditBasheert August 9th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Hey, it’s Texas. This has the potential to be funny as hell!
whatthe46 August 9th, 2014 at 10:55 pm
Denise August 9th, 2014 at 12:42 pm
I’ll be glad when they secede from the union. Geez!
jsutton August 9th, 2014 at 12:46 pm
This idea is positive proof that gun advocates often combine poor judgment and lack of any care for other human beings along with their own personal death worship.
Rocket Don August 9th, 2014 at 6:12 pm
And yet all recent mass shootings have occurred in “gun free zones”, never heard of anyone getting shot at a gun show.
jsutton August 9th, 2014 at 7:33 pm
I have. A man shot himself with his own gun at a gun show. By mistake of course. That rarity pointed out, I seriously doubt that gun free zones attract mass shooters.
Rocket Don August 10th, 2014 at 2:14 am
“I seriously doubt that gun free zones attract mass shooters.” — The evidence says you’re wrong…
jsutton August 10th, 2014 at 11:25 am
They don’t purposely choose a place because it’s gun free. And if there were a lot guns around more often than not innocent people would probably be killed in the crossfire. I think they call it friendly fire. Happens in wars a lot. Arm the whole populace and more innocents will die, not less. But I know it’s pointless to have this discussion with you. I am totally against any form of violence and most especially I am opposed to a mostly low intelligence populace armed to the teeth.
Bob Cronos August 11th, 2014 at 1:33 am
“They don’t purposely choose a place because it’s gun free…” — How do you know?
Chinese Democracy August 11th, 2014 at 1:54 am
because 2 nut balls went into a coffee shop and murdered 2 well armed policemen?
lets follow your logic
more guns= more safety
America is armed to the teeth. There should be very few gun deaths then right?
Bob Cronos August 11th, 2014 at 6:01 pm
more seat belts = more safety
Doesn’t mean people still don’t die in car accidents while wearing a seat belt though…
Chinese Democracy August 11th, 2014 at 10:21 pm
lol that analogy has been around the conservative blogosphere for a long time.
To me its ridiculous
Gun fetishists are really saying this..
I have an absolute right to drive any vehicle I want, on any road I want , in any direction I want at any time, at any speed, under any conditions with or without a seat belt
Bob Cronos August 12th, 2014 at 1:33 am
Hardly…What is a “Gun fetishist”? Is that like a “Computer fetishist” that lives in moms basement and is scared of guns and cars so he never leaves the house?
Chinese Democracy August 12th, 2014 at 2:12 pm
a computer fetishist created one of the worlds largest and richest companies APPLE .. and changes the world
next Bill Gates
a gun fetishists thinks the 2nd amendment gives them unfettered rights and are afraid of their own shadow
Shades August 9th, 2014 at 7:50 pm
Then you don’t read the news. http://wnep.com/2014/06/28/woman-shot-at-gun-show-in-bloomsburg/
Rocket Don August 10th, 2014 at 2:10 am
“Outside the doors to the show, a sign plainly states “loaded weapons are not allowed.” — I guess I should have specified maliciously against other people …
whatthe46 August 9th, 2014 at 10:55 pm
really? where have you been? a child was shot by his own father when getting into the truck after leaving a gun range (ok not show). another child shot his own face off at a gun show.
Roctuna August 9th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
What could go wrong? Nothing. This is Texas where all gun owners are superbly trained and supremely responsible. Just look at their track record.
mea_mark August 9th, 2014 at 1:28 pm
I don’t know, this could be a good thing, get 2 free drinks with every background check. It might break down some of the resistance to getting background checks.
FuzzysDaddy August 10th, 2014 at 4:49 pm
and you’re a moderator ? such an idiotic statement ..
mea_mark August 10th, 2014 at 5:01 pm
Yup, I am a moderator who has warned you before to clean up your act and you have failed. Bye.
Bob Cronos August 10th, 2014 at 11:51 pm
Oooh… Give a little man a little power and look what happens… Isn’t this how Hitler got started?
Chinese Democracy August 11th, 2014 at 1:50 am
no hitler was before the internet..
mea_mark August 11th, 2014 at 8:30 am
You haven’t seen all of his deleted comments, your comment comes from a point of ignorance because we have spared you from having to read the insults and filth. I left him a message on a comment that was clean enough to leave.
Bob Cronos August 11th, 2014 at 5:56 pm
Fair enough, that comment seemed a little benign for a ban…
Herb Sarge Phelps August 9th, 2014 at 1:47 pm
It is insulting how gun owners worship these tools as if the gun was a God. It is clear these people are out of their freaking minds and need mental health care NOW!
Bunya August 9th, 2014 at 3:13 pm
When I was in Tennessee, I saw a church located right next to a guns ‘n ammo shop. Maybe there IS a connection between God and guns.
fantagor August 9th, 2014 at 2:15 pm
Ironically, at gun shows it’s standard practice to
PROHIBIT PEOPLE TO BRING LOADED GUNS INTO THE SHOW.
Even they know it’s dangerous. Open carry all you want…just not here!
burqa August 9th, 2014 at 11:31 pm
Yeah, we have a large gun show here every year and the radio ads crack me up when they say, repeatedly, for no one to bring loaded weapons to the show.
Suzanne McFly August 9th, 2014 at 2:54 pm
Well, I figure if we want Darwin’s theory to work, this is a quick way to do it
tiredoftea August 9th, 2014 at 3:33 pm
Darwin’s theory as been working very well without the consent of Texas gun owners!
burqa August 9th, 2014 at 11:21 pm
OP: ” I was specifically told several times last night and this morning on Twitter that this should not be a problem because an unloaded gun will not load itself and it’s an inanimate object.”
Those are the sorts of people that make me nervous around firearms. I was taught by the NRA to treat every gun, [strong]without exception[/strong] as if it were loaded, even if you just checked to be sure.
The NRA also was adamant about alcohol and firearms not mixing.
I’m fine being around guns and people who know how to handle them properly, but, unfortunately, a lot of those who claim they know how to handle firearms do not handle them safely, and you heard from some of them on Twitter.
The NRA taught my class that the most common thing said after an accidental shooting is “I didn’t know it was loaded.” Tweet that back.
fahvel August 10th, 2014 at 3:09 am
disabled and without ammo? what the hell kind of show is that – let em drink and have good weapons and solid ammo. Just make sure the doors are closed and the morons do their shooting and drinking amognst themselves.
FuzzysDaddy August 10th, 2014 at 4:31 pm
kinda like sending in several fags with aids to a gay orgy .. oui ?