UPDATED: Anonymous Outs Officer In Brown Shooting; Identity In Doubt
[su_right_ad]UPDATE, 8/15, 8:27am: As reported by CNN, the name of the cop alleged to have shot Michael Brown will be released today by law enforcement authorities in Ferguson, around 10amEST. And The Guardian has more of the back story on the suspension of the Anonymous-related Twitter account that made public the name of Bryan Willman, who is not a police officer with either Ferguson or Saint Louis. Interestingly, if an IRC chat copied to Pastebin is to be believed, members of Anonymous – including the member whose Twitter account was quashed – had identified a possible suspect with a very different name!
UPDATE, 2:33pmEST: Anonymous’ official #OpFerguson Twitter account are reporting that the name of a Ferguson police officer released by another Anonymous activist’s account is not the same as that of the officer that they have independently identified as the officer who shot Michael Brown last week.
UPDATE, 12:59pmEST: Raw Story reports that the Saint Louis Police are saying that the officer named by Anonymous is not the officer who shot Michael Brown.
This morning at 9amEST, Anonymous has named the Ferguson, MO police officer who they allege shot Michael Brown in an incident that has triggered nearly a week of protests. At 11amEST, they released a photograph of officer Bryan Willman, and are threatening to release additional information about the officer unless the Ferguson police department responds.
PHOTO: WILLMAN, BRYAN P. #Ferguson #Shooting #MikeBrown #Anonymous pic.twitter.com/q3mspGpiTK
— TheAnonMessage (@TheAnonMessage) August 14, 2014
BREAKING NEWS: The name of the officer who shot #MikeBrown – NAME: OFFICER WILLMAN, BRYAN P. , Respondent – #Ferguson #Anonymous — TheAnonMessage (@TheAnonMessage) August 14, 2014
NEXT RELEASES IF @stlcountypd doesn’t respond: 1) PHOTO 2) ADDRESS w/ PHOTO 3) FULL D0X #Anonymous #Ferguson
— TheAnonMessage (@TheAnonMessage) August 14, 2014
AT 10:00 AM CT – PHOTO WILL BE RELEASED. (If no response) — TheAnonMessage (@TheAnonMessage) August 14, 2014
AT 12:00PM CT – Address will be released. (If no response)
— TheAnonMessage (@TheAnonMessage) August 14, 2014
At 2:00PM CT – FULL D0X will be released (if no response) — TheAnonMessage (@TheAnonMessage) August 14, 2014
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R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 9:15 am
Most people would call this a hostage situation. I hope it’s dealt with as such by the authorities.
Carla Akins August 14th, 2014 at 9:22 am
Agreed, I’m afraid this will only make an already tenuous situation worse. Of course if law enforcement and city officials had handled this better from the onset we wouldn’t need to be having this conversation.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 9:27 am
The FBI could have stepped in more quickly, although 48 hours after the event is still pretty quick in our justice system.
But as to the PD releasing the officer’s name, I don’t believe they release the name of any suspect in any crime until the person has been charged.
Carla Akins August 14th, 2014 at 9:49 am
I think local law enforcement could have handled it, should have been able to do better than they did. I feel much of this could have been averted – the whole thing had a cover-up vibe from the beginning. Then it was just mishandled over and over.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 10:28 am
local law enforcement is the problem!! “Let’s investigate ourselves to see if we’ve done anything wrong.” Yeah, that’s a great idea.
Carla Akins August 14th, 2014 at 12:00 pm
I agree that they are – I’m saying even if the shooting is/was justified, their handling of the event is what caused this situation.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:56 am
Did you see those guys? Pointing long guns at toddlers? They are using fear and intimidation against people who are protesting – the ONLY rioting was on the part of the cops. This is not how you handle a situation. Aside from the first night, there was no rioting other than on the side of the cops.
Carla Akins August 14th, 2014 at 12:04 pm
I agree – my comment was intended to speak of the shooting from the very beginning. Their failure to take ownership and handle this properly (regardless of responsibility) is what created this ongoing situation we have now.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:53 am
I disagree – how could the FBI have stepped in? The FBI cannot just go into a state and take over. The Governor is too busy “praying” to even show up – he could called the National Guard (oh that will help .. not) … the only people rioting last night were the police. That was what was strange. Cops were way out of line .. considering they were the ones causing the problems. The cops need to ratchet down their provocations. They are pretending to be the adults….but they are causing the problems. They were obviously untrained and over eager. Situations like this must be diffused – not escalated at the instigation of the police.
DD August 16th, 2014 at 2:41 am
I believe that the FBI must be asked to come in by either the police department or the governor. They cannot just jump into a local situation when it is not a federal crime being investigated.
dave-dr-gonzo August 14th, 2014 at 9:28 am
It is, and I’m sure you’ll see a federal response. OTOH, where is the federal response to “police officers” rioting and attacking journalists and citizens exercising their legitimate first amendment rights — cops dressed in full military regalia? This isn’t Pinochet’s Chile, but it’s looking more like it every day.
Plus, betcha we find out at least a few of the fine police officers invilved have ties to racist and white supremist groups.
Anomaly 100 August 14th, 2014 at 9:29 am
That’s a sucker’s bet. I’m sure some are involved with dubious groups.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 9:29 am
Attacking journalists? You mean responding to the call from McDonald’s to police to remove non-customers occupying space and using their wifi?
White supremacist groups? Really? You’re better than that kind of dangerous conjecture.
Anomaly 100 August 14th, 2014 at 9:34 am
Reporters aren’t allowed there at all. Al Jazeera, Huffington Post and Washington post reporters have been arrested and/or assaulted
dave-dr-gonzo August 14th, 2014 at 9:38 am
Hi RJ – not referring to McDonald’s, but the teargassing of a news crew from Al bJazeera America.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 9:43 am
Okay, that’s a separate issue. The McDonald’s event was fresh on my mind because of last night. That was directed at the reporters, or at the crowd that the reporters were in? (Even local reporters here are delivering live reports while coughing because it’s in the air, but haven’t been the actual “targets” of the CS.)
Flying Goat August 14th, 2014 at 9:51 am
The journalists arrested at McDonalds claim they were customers, actually, which isn’t exactly far fetched.
Pookabun August 14th, 2014 at 10:19 am
Except the journalists were leaving, as they had been asked to, and were then – yes – attacked by those police (slammed into things, threatened, etc) while being arrested. In fact I believe that journalists, including the two arrested, had been working out of that McDonalds for days (with no complaints on the part of the staff or anyone else that I know of). If there was a legitimate issue, why were the journalists released with no charges and why did the police refuse to give their names?
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:38 am
Rousting by cop. Happens all the time. Why were those police pointing weapons at people sitting peacefully and demonstrating. And where is that stupid Governor?
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:37 am
That’s a lie. The McDonalds was quiet – there were several customers in there and the journalists were charging phones. The demonstration was blocks away.
There was NO phone call from McDonalds..that is simply another RushBot babble point … they had been there for several days and even the manage was surprised when the Gestapo shut the place down as there had been no issues until they arrived.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 10:43 am
Link to interview with McDonald’s manager? (You have one right? You wouldn’t simply posit this via righteous anger without substantiation, right? Right?) Because protocol for this kind of restaurant eviction is that the manager tells people to leave twice and then makes a phone call.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:49 am
Why are YOU not angry with out of control police? Why do you take the part of an officer who murders?
Oh wait … the man who was murdered was black. That justifies your defense of a cop who kills….. because he can.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 10:50 am
Have another sip of tea.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:51 am
The white rage seethes …
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:06 am
Like many, I believe the reporters – who have given their statements regarding how it happened. The store was doing a normal business, away from the demonstration and the manager expressed surprise when he was told to shut the place down during their arrest.
Show me where the manager called the police? Just another RW lie.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 10:49 am
Quit watching Faux News. McDonald’s didn’t call the police. The police came in on their own, left, and then came back when they decided businesses needed to close. The journalists were leaving when one was assaulted by yet another rogue cop.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:50 am
Fox News, Hannity, Rush … that’s where all of his facts come from. But you’re right, the manager did NOT call the police and in fact was surprised when the police demanded he shut the place down.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:35 am
At some point, people fight back. This is one of those situations. The true hostages are the innocent people living in Ferguson who were gassed last night when the continually lobbing of tear gas came into their homes.
There are laws in this country that assure people an OFFICER will be identified.
Something has to stop this rampant genocide being conducted by police officers against black individuals and black communities.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 10:39 am
Yes, there are laws — laws that prevent a suspect from being identified until said suspect is charged with a crime.
But due process be damned when cyberterrorists decide they can get justice their own way.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:47 am
There are laws in every state that provide a police officer (I use the term loosely in the case of this assh8le) be identified when he has murdered/killed someone “in the line of duty”. It is to prevent our local county mounties from killing people without having to be identified – we have a right to know WHO kills people in the name of the City, State or Country.
Look it up.
Cyberterrorists? They’re just doing what the police should have done to begin with. There is a reason that those laws are in place. Shielding a cop who murders is ILLEGAL.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 10:53 am
That’s the law in California (as recently determined by the courts) unless there’s a valid safety concern. Those policies vary across the country, however.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 10:59 am
We have freedom of the press. If the information is known, the press has the freedom to report it. The government has no right to suppress the press. The police may not have to release the information – but once someone knows the information, they have the RIGHT (remember rights??) to report it.
We don’t have Secret Police in the USA. Well, at least we’re not supposed to have Secret Police.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:02 am
That’s correct. It’s why police can’t hold people incommunicado and must charge them. And we as citizens have a right to know which cop feels it is ok to shoot an unarmed black teen in the back – then while he is on the ground, execute him.
Any time lethal force is used, there should be an investigation. There was obviously attitude involved – police bullying tactics. There were eye witnesses .. why will the police not speak with them?
If the cops don’t want to LOOK dirty, they need to stop covering everything up.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 11:03 am
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/14/us/missouri-teenager-and-officer-scuffled-before-shooting-chief-says.html?_r=0
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:04 am
You seriously want this guy to get away with this? Why? Are you so filled with animosity and hatred towards black teens? Or just scared?
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 11:06 am
If the investigation determines that he’s guilty, then he deserves to go to jail.
Why do you not support equal protection under the law when it comes to police officers?
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:10 am
THESE are not police officers. These are Gestapo. In our country we have laws that protect us from out of control police. He murdered an unarmed teen. If the teen had murdered the cop, the teen’s name/address would be “out there”.
If you really watched last night,you saw that the only people committing provocation were the riot police. WHAT riot? The only people rioting were the riot police?
Pointing automatic weapons at toddlers? Pointing guns at cars?
If this is how these people “contain” a situation, they need remedial training. We have all seen situation where people are contained without harm. Tear Gas and concussion grenades are in response to riots. There was no rioting other than the police.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 11:15 am
To paraphrase Thomas Moore, “while a community must judge in it’s hearts according to it’s wits, in the courts it must judge according to the law.” He also said something about giving the Devil himself benefit of law, not to protect the devil, but to protect himself.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 11:21 am
I’m just as afraid of Anonymous as I am of police brutality. From personal experience I can tell you this is a group that isn’t above lying when they think they are on the right side of an issue. Put your trust in them at your own peril.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 11:21 am
Was Anonymous behind the “doxxing” of another officer here two days ago, posting his Facebook information because they believed he was the cop involved in the shooting? (He wasn’t, and now he and his family are in hiding because of death threats.)
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:28 am
Who knows? Didn’t see it. I think the police agency should have done the right thing and put it out there immediately. Surely they knew this might happen.
People HATE coverups. People don’t trust the cops .. why would they when stuff like this happens?
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 11:15 am
And the press has the freedom to report any information they have.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:37 am
However the people of Ferguson have the constitutional right to peaceful protest. Which is what they did. The police blew the whole thing up – seemingly attempting to cause a riot which never happened.
They did get to shoot off a lot of their new toys though.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 10:48 am
And actually, this isn’t a “suspect”. What needs to be determined is if a crime was committed. The cop is paid by the taxpayers, and the taxpayers have a right to know what is happening.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 10:54 am
Correct. Thanks. Now let’s see if the officer survives long enough for that determination to be made.
NW10 August 14th, 2014 at 10:55 am
If only that same consideration had been given to Michael Brown.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:58 am
the kid didn’t…..
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 11:07 am
So the officer shouldn’t?
Please tell us how you feel, truly, and on the record.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:15 am
He needs to be investigated – take away his badge – and gun – the investigation must be done by someone other than his department. An outside agency. If it is determined that the shooting was unjustified, he needs to be tried for murder or whatever they believe is appropriate.
But it is very important that an investigation be done by a credible agency. Otherwise no one will believe it is accurate.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 11:20 am
“He needs to be investigated – take away his badge – and gun”
Done. He’s on administrative leave.
“the investigation must be done by someone other than his department. An outside agency.”
Done. FBI. Not Anonymous.
“If it is determined that the shooting was unjustified, he needs to be tried for murder or whatever they believe is appropriate.”
Agreed.
“But it is very important that an investigation be done by a credible agency.”
Done. FBI. Not Anonymous.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:26 am
In your position, if you killed someone, you probably wouldn’t be sitting at your desk getting paid while someone investigates you for murder.
No one except the police get placed on Admin Leave with Pay when a civilian is killed.
When someone is being investigated for murder, their name is all over the papers/news/media. Double standard.
FBI? They can only investigate federal crimes. Unless invited. A hate crime possibly. Otherwise Internal Affairs .. which means the killer cop will walk.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 11:27 am
You may want to refresh your browser and see the front page of this very site.
Jerry Brown August 14th, 2014 at 11:17 am
Officer? You mean PIG!
Jerry Brown August 14th, 2014 at 11:16 am
Who gives a shit, he didn’t pause to consider shit before he shot that kid in the back, chest and face.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:57 am
and that includes his name and badge number.
And police release names of people all the time that are arrested, and many who are never charged.
Go bark up another pole.
“Murdered for being black” IS a crime.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:17 am
The people who live in Ferguson also have the same right to due process. You seem to continually forget the citizens who are impacted and involved.
The police need training. They do not know how to diffuse this mess. Shooting / killing / tear gas/ concussion grenades are responses to a RIOT. There has been no RIOT for days. People are legally entitled to assemble (including after dark) – a right to peaceful assembly.
The ONLY people out of control are the police.
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 11:33 am
By law, police incident reports are to be made public.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:35 am
They cover that by not submitted a report. That way they don’t need to name the cop. It’s why when the reporters were released they were told there was “no report”.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 11:48 am
There is no version of that law that says they have to serve anyone’s head on a platter in the middle of protests.
Carla Akins August 14th, 2014 at 12:18 pm
Not everywhere. Kansas specifically has a law that states they do not have have to make criminal investigation files available to the public – whether or not anyone is charged. FYI.
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 12:42 pm
By law police incident reports are to be made public in Missouri.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:45 pm
Citation needed.
Carla Akins August 14th, 2014 at 12:49 pm
But not during an investigation, only after someone is charged or the case is discharged.
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 1:43 pm
That’s a different report. The incident report is only about the encounter and not the investigation.
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 2:14 pm
http://ago.mo.gov/pdf/MissouriSunshineLaw.pdf
FYI
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 10:43 am
I hope the “hostage holder” follows through. The public has a right to know what PUBLIC SERVANTS are doing!
dave-dr-gonzo August 14th, 2014 at 9:18 am
I hope Officer Willman has eyes in the back of his head. OTOH, I’m very interested in what might be in his “jacket”.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:33 am
Lots and lots of “excessive force” maybe?
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 10:07 am
How do we know it was unlawful? We don’t have the story of what happened.
Miss A / Alan: Do I have the authority to call the McDonald’s up and say I write for Alan Colmes and I have a few questions about how things went down in your establishment?
Jay Schiavone August 14th, 2014 at 10:31 am
“How do we know it was unlawful?”
They were released without charge.
MarcoZandrini August 14th, 2014 at 10:31 am
The wapo reporter posted his story in today’s wapo. I think I’d trust a wapo reporter before I trust a ferguson, mo cop.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:41 am
Agree – the media is watching this very closely – the cops have taken off their numbers and nametags. I also believe that the cops are setting this up to provoke a riot. Their response last night was over the top … they are supposed to be trained to diffuse situations, not escalate them.
This is not Baghdad .. except of course for the po-Lice weapons they had.
I also would believe the reporters – both of whom were slammed around before I would believe these thuggish over-the-top black hating Gesapo cops.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:40 am
Oh please – please do. But then please do tell the truth ok? No more spin – no more right wingy “they were violating the law” BS.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 10:29 am
Someone who thinks we need to wait till the investigation is complete, please give me 1 good reason why a cop would shoot someone in the back EVER.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:32 am
Because the “perp” was “walking while black unarmed”. That’s all ANY white cop needs to shoot a black man in the back. The mentally ill black man who was killed by LAPD yesterday was shot 3 times, all in the back. And they knew he was mentally challenged.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 10:42 am
And was laying face down on the ground at the time – don’t forget that part!!
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 11:29 am
The cop was in fear for his life. The perp might turn around to surrender.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:30 am
Well done!
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 10:39 am
Sure he does.
Jerry Brown August 14th, 2014 at 11:14 am
I love Anonymous man!
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 11:17 am
Yeah, well that’s just like your opinion, man.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:22 am
Cops are supposed to be easily identifiable. They are to wear name tags and badges with numbers. There is a reason for that.
When you place people in charge of others, the people have a right to know who is telling them what to do. We have to have legal right to know who is policing us so that we may question their actions legally.
Last night’s Gestapo removed their badges and their names.
That makes them the Nazis.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 11:24 am
I call Godwin’s law on that one.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 11:25 am
I thought that could only be called on conservatives. I learn something new every day.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 11:27 am
No, like any law it needs to be applied equally and fairly to all our citizens.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:30 am
Including the police.
Our police are required to be identifiable. When they remove their badges and their nametags, they are operating in secrecy which is kind of against what they supposedly stand for.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 11:37 am
Who is going to be there to protect you if Anonymous decides to come for you? Where is your defense against vigilantes if we decide to put them in charge of cases like this? We are as defenseless as Micheal Brown if we can’t protect his assailants from emotional crowd-think and lynch mobs. No matter what your job is you still are innocent until proven guilty. No matter how awful your crime you still get the benefits of law.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:39 am
I am NOT in favor of vigilantes. If the officer had been named to begin with, there would be no vigilantes. Operating in secrecy bring them out of the woodwork.
Innocent until proven guilty doesn’t mean that when a police officer guns down a citizen he is allowed to remain nameless. We knew the victim .. the name of the cop is relevant.
All the secrecy just provokes more violence.
Adam S Walburger August 14th, 2014 at 11:50 am
That’s the problem Eric. This is business as usual. The line is now drawn. If they did nothing this news would have already faded from the pages and the officer would be acquitted and back on the streets.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:16 pm
I would agree with you except that it’s the same mistrust of our system is being used by the other side to justify gunning down our young people in the first place. It cuts both ways.
Gary August 14th, 2014 at 5:44 pm
‘innocent until proven guilty’? Why is that kid dead in the street?
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 5:50 pm
He was denied his basic civil rights. The police who did it need to be punished. We must also give them due process (even though they denied it to Brown). Take away that right and there will be a whole more of us dead in the street,
Gary August 14th, 2014 at 5:57 pm
I don’t advocate ‘an eye for an eye’ or the mistaken punishment by a mob seeking only revenge. That’s too much like Israel and Palestine for me. But justice MUST prevail in this country or we all just kiss it goodbye. And so far, those charged with upholding justice are just holding it up. I’m all for due process-let’s just get the ability for the process to begin.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 6:03 pm
On that we a agree. Also the amount of time this investigation is taking and the lack of transparency is something that there needs to be consequences for. It is as responsible as anything for the civil unrest.
Gary August 14th, 2014 at 6:04 pm
Absolutely. We’re good.
Gary August 14th, 2014 at 5:44 pm
‘innocent until proven guilty’? Why is that kid dead in the street?
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 11:46 am
Apparently the cops in Ferguson are cowards, sissies, or criminals who don’t want to be identified. None of the three is good.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:01 pm
And you are who again?
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 12:35 pm
I’m someone who isn’t paid with tax dollars. I didn’t swear an oath to preserve and protect. I don’t wear a badge, althought neither do the cowards in Ferguson.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
And that makes you more equal because…?
Jerry Brown August 14th, 2014 at 11:26 am
Don’t forget the ski masks!
Jerry Brown August 14th, 2014 at 11:26 am
Your observation is accurate. Well done.
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 11:27 am
This aggression will not stand, man.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 11:28 am
F*%k it man, lets go bowling.
BillTheCat45 August 14th, 2014 at 11:28 am
Thank Flying Spaghetti Monster for Anonymous
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 11:29 am
Anonymous has followed through with their threat to tweet the officer’s image on their Twitter account.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 11:34 am
That should have been done by the police by Sunday morning. All this secrecy just tweaks people and makes them angry. The “something to hide” syndrome. I don’t agree with Anonymous doing this particularly but the name would have come out.
As far as investigating the cop, you seem to think there can be a legitimate secret/no name investigation and if they determine the “shooting was justified” they wouldn’t have to release his name because he wouldn’t be charged.
That isn’t really how it works in this country.
His name was bound to come out. If they had been upfront and honest from the first, some of this could have been averted.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 11:44 am
Wonderful!!!
Terry Hatch August 14th, 2014 at 12:27 pm
Except that they gave out the wrong name.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
And we’re all surprised.
Pilotshark August 14th, 2014 at 11:42 am
seem where Gov Nixon has relived the St. Louis country police force of there duty’s in Ferguson.
a day late but hopefully a good thing over all.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:00 pm
I can’t believe that Alan.com wants to be culpable in any violence perpetrated against the officer by reproducing his name and image in this post. Know that I oppose the use of the image that has been added to this article.
mea_mark August 14th, 2014 at 12:03 pm
It is in the public domain now, there isn’t going to be anymore suppression. Might as well publish it, it is the news.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:04 pm
So because it’s in the public domain, irresponsible journalism goes out the window?
/tosses my Chicago Manual of Style/ Who needs this anymore?
The Third Archon August 14th, 2014 at 12:07 pm
You cannot stop the flow of information, and trying just makes you look like a tool who thinks they know better than everyone else. People are unpredictable, and thus there will ALWAYS be a risk of them doing “the wrong” thing–but they are, god I hope, capable of doing the RIGHT thing on their own too. If the police refuse to identify the shooter (and I cannot possibly fathom how, what, five days later, they STILL don’t have at least a preliminary idea/narrative of what ‘really’ went down) then there’s no way to determine if he was justified or unjustified, and if the latter, no way to hold him accountable. If the police would do their jobs right–moreover, if America’s so-called “leaders” would ACT like leaders and bother addressing the REAL problems of Americans–we wouldn’t be in this situation in the first place, and we wouldn’t NEED to resort to hacktivism to get BASIC information necessary to ensure justice is done and humans are treated with the dignity that they deserve.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:09 pm
Hactivism, Cyberterrorism, To-may-to, to-mah-to.
The Third Archon August 14th, 2014 at 12:13 pm
Maybe–not unlike the terrorist founders of America. One man’s terrorist is another man’s freedom fighter.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:23 pm
John Adams acted as defense attorney for the British Soldiers responsible for the Boston Massacre. Also if you take your argument to it’s conclusion than you also allow for the Cliven Bundys of the world to act with impunity.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:23 pm
Bingo.
The Third Archon August 14th, 2014 at 12:26 pm
I fail to see how John Adams’ legal practice changes the way the British viewed the American rebels or their guerilla tactics. Also, you’ve completely missed my point, which was that JUST because we can call something (arguably accurately) terrorism, doesn’t mean it is necessarily good or bad–not all terrorism is created equal. The cause for which it is waged, and the values of the person judging the act, will determine whether it is called “good” or “evil” (and in fact, probably whether or not it will be labeled as “terrorism” at all). Cliven Bundy is an over-privileged dick who thinks he has a right to externalize his costs by grazing public land without paying. He can suck it. Basic human rights is a far worthier cause than some asshole rancher’s bottom line.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:19 pm
Twitter has suspended the account. https://twitter.com/account/suspended
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:22 pm
Unfortunately it is impossible to unring that bell….even though what Anon posted may not be accurate.
Secrecy provokes these types of “outings”. Most people react better when someone is honest with them.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:31 pm
Good.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
they’ll just come up with a new one. They probably have a million backup ID’s.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:52 pm
They do keep Tor in business.
The Third Archon August 14th, 2014 at 12:01 pm
Has anyone cross-referenced the name with the list of 53 officers (I thought) of Ferguson? Isn’t that information public?
John_St_John August 14th, 2014 at 12:01 pm
You know folks, with all the violence being perpetuated against Blacks and Latinos over the last six years I have come to one conclusion, full blown South African Apartheid has come to America.
EMB August 14th, 2014 at 12:21 pm
There’s violence back and forth Across all races against all races. We all came into the world the same way and will turn to dust the same way. Media sensationalizes everything but doesn’t report incidences equally.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:21 pm
More “transparency” by Ferguson PD: From Daily Kos:
In other developments, Ferguson Police Chief Thomas Jackson said that:
… a St. Louis County coroner’s report has not been released due, in part, to concerns that releasing certain details–such as the exact number of gunshot wounds on Brown’s body–could taint possible witness testimony.
Yes, an official autopsy report, detailing the number of bullets that slammed into Michael Brown’s body and from what distance might “taint” witness testimony on how many times Brown was shot and from where. Either that or it will taint the spin Ferguson police have been peddling since Michael Brown was killed. Oh, and speaking of reports, Police Chief Jackson is now claiming that the officer who shot Michael Brown was injured and taken to the hospital that day because his “face was swollen.” How about releasing that report?
Terry Hatch August 14th, 2014 at 12:22 pm
The name of the officer they gave out is not correct.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:24 pm
Since no one knows that for sure, speculation that this is inaccurate will continue. No one KNOWS that it’s not the right name.
All in the name of transparency.
The Third Archon August 14th, 2014 at 12:27 pm
Well presumably the police do in fact know if it’s the right name–they just cannot be trusted to honestly report what they know since they have an incentive to deflect if it ISN’T him and to deflect if it IS him (him being the name identified).
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
An interesting exchange on their page.
|Trïll|✨ @SheeeeRatchetx
@stlcountypd @TheAnonMessage when a regular joe shmo kills someone, their information is released…
St. Louis County PD @stlcountypdFollow
@SheeeeRatchetx We only release suspect information after the investigation is complete and charges have been issued.
10:58 AM – 14 Aug 2014
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:51 pm
Which sounds exactly like the cover up that everyone thinks it is.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
St. Louis County PD @stlcountypdFollow
@TheAnonMessage Bryan Willman is not even an officer with Ferguson or St. Louis County PD. Do not release more info on this random citizen.
10:45 AM – 14 Aug 2014
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:29 pm
And you choose to believe – that’s your choice. It may very well be wrong (as Anon is sometimes). On the other hand, THIS is what happens when people HIDE information. And since when has the PD proven itself “honest” in this entire case?
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:31 pm
You mean flawed information being released because of the need to know immediately? This just brought the whole thing a step closer to being “Ferguson Ferguson FERGUSON!”
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Take a look at Anonymous’ Project Chanology and all the deliberate misinformation they distributed then.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:50 pm
Why? I’m not interested in spreading their info. It would seem that if the local police took the initiative to be honest, tell the truth .. it would calm things down a well.
The ONLY people rioting last night were the cops. I think the people of Ferguson only want answers. And instead they are getting rubber bullets, concussion grenades and tear gas in their homes.
Citizens have a right to question authority when a citizen is killed by a police officer.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:46 pm
“Flawed information” – are you referring to Anonymous or are you referring to the PD?
All the bullets came from the cops gun … did Brown magically grab the gun and shoot himself 8 times including at least once in the back?
What are you referring to now?
And why DO people pay attention to Anonymous?
When a police officer paid for by the City shoots and kills an unarmed citizen (walking while black), yes the people have a need to know.
When the police give the appearance of a coverup, yes the cops are doing something wrong. When they refuse to interview the witnesses, they are giving the appearance of doing something wrong.
I would also be interested to know just what type of record this cop has? Or does no one have a “need to know” for that too?
Public servant?
Public payroll?
Right to know exists.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 12:25 am
You can’t believe everything you hear or read. Just because it’s in full color on TV or on the Internet doesn’t make it true. There are three sides to every story. One of them is the truth. How about if everyone exercised some patience and wait for the truth to be revealed?
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
Why do you choose to believe Anonymous? I can tell you from personal experience that they are more than willing to lie when they think they are on the right side of an issue.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Did I say I believed Anonymous? From the very beginning I have stated that the police officers name should be released by the PD…as is usually the case. The PD is making themselves look ever dirtier as they continue to stonewall and drag their feet on even releasing the young man’s autopsy.
Secrecy is bad – when you are a public servant and your department appears to be hiding everything. It makes people angry and makes them appear to be lying, obfuscating, delaying and protecting a bad cop.
Stop and think about this a minute. WHO is making the cops look bad? They are doing a wonderful job of screwing themselves without anyone elses help.
Anonymous is just trying for attention. They have their own agenda –
Tammy Minton Haley August 14th, 2014 at 3:10 pm
…almost all will lie if they believe their cause is high-minded enough–it’s classic “end justifies the means” behavior…humans being human, straining at the seams…
what’s killing me with incredulity, is all this hoo-haw about “the militarization of the police”…where the hell has everybody been? i’ve been hearing about this since 9/11–but it started happening in the 80’s, with the big build-up on the failed and utterly lost “Drug War”…i think it started when cops began to be outgunned by cartels and such….then, 9/11 happened, and even these tiny hamlets started getting ridiculous amounts of battleground equipment…
let’s not forget the NRA’s place in this–lax gun restrictions leads to the general populace being better armed than the cops…the police really don’t like that…it scares them, and rightly so….the cop shop shouldn’t have to have a rocket launcher to be better-equipped than the general citizenry…
as usual, we’ve done this to ourselves by being short-sighted and led by fear–i won’t even mention lazy and apathetic (well, maybe i will)…we deserve the country we’ve got…let’s see if no abortion facilities available to exercise a constitutional right will bring people out to vote…no?…okay…how about the government spying on you?…no?…alright, what of the militarization of the police across the nation?…
ah, poo…there’s my rant o’ the day… 🙂
Gary August 14th, 2014 at 5:31 pm
I think you’re right about militarization starting a while back. Under Raygun, more than likely. Then after 9/11, Bush/Cheney added fuel to the fire by awarding no-bid contracts to military contractors. Now there’s no war to make them tons o’bucks so they still have to sell their hardware somewhere. And who better to outfit against the black and brown inferior races? Why our police of course. I’m way out in WA state and I’m white, but I’m scared to death of these Rambos. This is at the core of these events and is the issue that needs to be resolved…and damn soon.
Tammy Minton Haley August 14th, 2014 at 9:50 pm
these local departments are granted this equipment from “Homeland Security”–these tiny little cop shops have $250K “Mine Repellant Armored Patrols” (?)–the military invented them special for the IED’s in Irag/Afghanistan…
(reference “Rachel Maddow Show/MSNBC/08.14.14)
Gary August 14th, 2014 at 5:31 pm
I think you’re right about militarization starting a while back. Under Raygun, more than likely. Then after 9/11, Bush/Cheney added fuel to the fire by awarding no-bid contracts to military contractors. Now there’s no war to make them tons o’bucks so they still have to sell their hardware somewhere. And who better to outfit against the black and brown inferior races? Why our police of course. I’m way out in WA state and I’m white, but I’m scared to death of these Rambos. This is at the core of these events and is the issue that needs to be resolved…and damn soon.
Heather Craft August 14th, 2014 at 3:28 pm
http://www.ddotomen.com/2014/08/14/prison-break-bryan-willman-police-officer-shot-killed-mike-brown-revealed/
mea_mark August 14th, 2014 at 3:48 pm
Just to compare … http://t.co/SVj2z9sTNJ
Heather Craft August 14th, 2014 at 4:00 pm
Police are trying to blame her being shot on a drive by and not shot by them..
KatieAnnieOakley August 14th, 2014 at 4:32 pm
No, he is NOT a “police officer” – he is a Communications Supervisor with the Saint Ann PD in nearby Saint Ann.
So, yes – they can claim that man is not an officer – he’s not.
But they did not say “No, that is not the name of the person that shot Brown”.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 4:37 pm
So why would a dispatcher be in a police car, telling kids to not walk down the middle of the street?
KatieAnnieOakley August 14th, 2014 at 5:20 pm
Why not? White Privilege. Adult Privilege. Police Privilege.
Better question: why was he holding a gun?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvB0efhCQAAzrjb.jpg
KatieAnnieOakley August 14th, 2014 at 5:20 pm
Why not? White Privilege. Adult Privilege. Police Privilege.
Better question: why was he holding a gun?
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BvB0efhCQAAzrjb.jpg
Terry Hatch August 14th, 2014 at 12:31 pm
I think the name should be released immediately by the police dept, but the mayor was just on TV and said the name given out by Anonymous is wrong. Maybe the mayor is lying ???? If he is this makes the situation even worse.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
I wouldn’t believe the police in this matter.
Oh Geez August 14th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
Well, from a check of my “sources”, the name that was released came from a pretty reliable source…
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:41 pm
The PD is doubling down on stupid.
Even if they tell the truth, at this point no one will trust them.
And they did it to themselves.
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 12:56 pm
According to @OpFerguson, your sources are full of guano.
https://twitter.com/OpFerguson/status/499947162965274625
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:34 pm
That is the problem with secrecy. No one knows and at this point, who trusts the Mayor? Secrecy breeds mistrust and doubt. Of course he could be telling the truth. Of course he could be lying. Which is it?
If you are a RWNJ you “believe” the police because they never do anything wrong and “being black” should obviously be a crime.
mea_mark August 14th, 2014 at 12:44 pm
If the Mayor had said the name is wrong and the real name is … I might find it more credible. As it is, I am still very suspicious.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:48 pm
That’s at the bottom of the whole thing. How can any citizen of Ferguson trust anything these people say?
Of course they are angry – upset – but at this point, diffusing the situation has to happen so cooler heads can prevail.
AnonymousSupporter August 14th, 2014 at 8:03 pm
Of coarse the police department will say the information is not correct to prevent any violence against the person. Its funny people don’t take this group seriously. Here terry read this, http://pastebin.com/icyzemqk
Foundryman August 14th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
We deserve to know who the trigger man was, and we also deserve to now why the police is covering up with smoke clouds and teargas what’s happening there.
We deserve to know why they are using armored military vehicles, camouflaged uniforms against unarmed American protesters.
We deserve to know why people are being gassed standing in their own front yards.
We deserve to know why children, some with breathing conditions, are being gassed while in their own homes.
We deserve to know why there wasn’t any teargas and armored vehicles used against the Armed protesters at Bundy’s ranch who pointed weapons at the police.
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Good luck with all of that.
Militarized police obviously tend to go all squirrelly when given REALLY big guns and weapons of destruction.
Coming soon to a neighborhood near you!
Foundryman August 14th, 2014 at 12:42 pm
They are definitely giving us a clear view of why militarizing the police is a very bad idea, and needs reversed.
Eric Trommater August 14th, 2014 at 12:45 pm
Amen to that!
BanditBasheert August 14th, 2014 at 12:47 pm
I could post that photo of the Flaccid Fool’s Sheriff Joes tank again … not sure if anyone knows how to drive it yet.
Sabrina Hawkins August 14th, 2014 at 8:01 pm
Thats what happens when you put a veteran who has spent the bulk of his adult life in Iraq and Afghanistan a gun and badge and control of American Citizenry.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 12:02 am
That is wrong to say so. Not all Veterans are bad and I there are plenty police officers who have never been in the military. Besides, having a gun and wearing a badge doesn’t give you control of American Citizens. This was proved by the results at the Bundy Ranch and apparently by the protests that are now going on. The police don’t appear to be in control of much of anything in Ferguson. If they all packed up and left, the community would be begging for them to return within 24 hours.
WellThereItIsThen August 14th, 2014 at 1:31 pm
The rioters’ behaviour is proof enough they can’t be trusted to know who the cop is.
Anomaly 100 August 14th, 2014 at 2:46 pm
Killing a teenager is what started the rioting.
geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 11:59 pm
The rioting had nothing to do with the killing of that teenager. Those who started the rioting and looting weren’t the same people as those protesting Mike Brown’s tragic death. The looters were people taking advantage of the situation to steal for their own gan. They are the ones who put the peaceful protesters at risk from being harmed by police.
Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 12:01 am
Agreed but there are always predators in a situation like that. Remember the Rodney King incident?
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 12:03 am
Remember the riots after the Rodney King incident?
Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 12:18 am
That’s what I was referring to.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 12:22 am
Al Sharpton is in St. Louis as well. He’s as much a predator as anyone. In addition, the Black Panthers have arrived. Most of the people that you see protesting on the news aren’t even from Ferguson or even from the state of Missouri. I live close by. The actual residents of Ferguson are tired of it and just want the protesters to leave. They are knocking on random doors at 3 a.m. to ask for directions and water because they are from out of state. A co-worker of mine who is from there didn’t get any sleep for two nights earlier in the week and is now staying with her sister. The predators are literally running the citizens of Ferguson out of their own city.
Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 12:30 am
You almost make it sound like you’re inconvenienced by this teenager’s shooting death.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 9:01 am
You almost make it sound like you want to intellectually contribute to this conversation.
mea_mark August 15th, 2014 at 9:20 am
You sound like a troll that wants to be banned.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 11:10 am
mea_mark, How would you advise me to respond to your post or the one from Anomaly 100?
Do the mods here simply delete the comments of and ban those who disagree with them?
One mod instigates with a lightly veiled personal attack aimed at my comment above and then another mod deletes my response? A response that did not use profanity or violate any rules of Disqus. If that’s the way you want to moderate your forum, then you’ve already completely lost your purpose to be here.
R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 11:31 am
I’m living proof that disparate and opposing thought is allowed here. Argue, debate — even snark if you must.
That being said: Draco Dormiens Nunquam Titillandus.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 11:33 am
My comment that was deleted was no more or less snarky than the comment I was replying to. 😉
R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 11:38 am
I saw it. And while I agree that the tone and words of it are repeated frequently from many posters here on both sides of the aisle… directing them at the hostess of the site might be considered “unwise.”
mea_mark August 15th, 2014 at 11:45 am
Think of it as a warning. Insulting the authors or mods even without abusive language can get you in trouble.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 12:14 pm
In that case, I would suggest that the author and the mods should follow their own rules towards their guests.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 11:35 am
Before this is over, I fear that everyone in this country could become inconvenienced by this teenager’s shooting death.
R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 9:25 am
Your story jibes with the stories I hear from my Ferguson co-workers.
allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 5:22 pm
Silly you.
allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 5:22 pm
Silly you.
thehossdriver . August 14th, 2014 at 1:54 pm
Why do you need the trigger man’s name? So you can go burn his house down without due process? There would be no need for militarization if your protests were peaceful and non-violent. What do you expect when millions of dollars of fire, looting, and vandalism are being used on other ‘innocent’ victims?
supersajin August 14th, 2014 at 3:32 pm
WHY? So a real investigation can begin, unless you trust the local police to do the job. WHY? so we can shine a light on this murderers activities, did he have a history of discriminatory posts or tweets? We may never know because i’m sure all his social media accounts have been scrubbed by now.
geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 11:56 pm
The local police department isn’t conducting the investigation. They immediately turned that over to the County police. The Department of Justice and the FBI have launched coinciding investigations. The State Police have now been called in to handle the police presence at the protests. The State Police Capt. Johnson is marching with the protesters in his normal police uniform. pic.twitter.com/tUsZNIltNv
Anomaly 100 August 15th, 2014 at 12:19 am
Capt. Johnson is a hero.
allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 5:21 pm
What “millions of dollars” are you trying to refer to? There is NO NEED for militarization P E R I O D…get it or are you 1 of the many still willing to give up more of your rights as an American?
allison1050 August 14th, 2014 at 5:21 pm
What “millions of dollars” are you trying to refer to? There is NO NEED for militarization P E R I O D…get it or are you 1 of the many still willing to give up more of your rights as an American?
Sabrina Hawkins August 14th, 2014 at 7:58 pm
oh really? Have you forgotten the police mob which descended on Zuccotti Park already? You people who are advocating for continued peaceful protests are being paid by someone to continue saying it.
AnonymousSupporter August 14th, 2014 at 8:01 pm
Anonymous wants the man arrested and charged for murder.
geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 11:53 pm
Anonymous needs to have the patience to wait for due process. If they can’t do that, they have already lost their effectiveness.
IAMMIKEBROWN August 15th, 2014 at 6:32 am
THERES REALLY NO INVESTIGATION NEEDED WHEN OVER 10+ PEOPLE IN THE CANFIELD APARTMENT COMPLEX SAW MIKE BROWN GET SHOT WITH HIS HANDS UP BEGGING FOR HIS LIFE… KILLED IN COLD BLOOD BY THIS OFFICER THEY’RE PROTECTING !! IF ONLY YOU WERE THERE…
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 9:13 am
To say that there is no investigation needed is ridiculous, regardless if 100 people witnessed the incident. If the officer is guilty of wrongdoing, He could get a mistrial or acquittal because of an improperly prepared case.
If multiple witnesses were testifying that you had killed a man, I’m positive that you would want an investigation and a fair trial by a jury of your peers.
If we, as a society, cannot find a way to remain impartial and look at both sides of an issue. Then society has crumbled in failure.
When a man is considered guilty until he proves his innocence instead of innocent until proven guilty, then we have abandoned the very foundation upon which this country was built.
What you are advocating against the officer is exactly what we are attempting to prevent from happening to any other young men like Mike Brown in the present or the future.
DenitaEllis123 August 15th, 2014 at 7:00 pm
Why not? He wasn’t scared to murder that child,so why in the hell would be scared to let his name be known especially if he feels he didnt do a damn thing wrong. Umph!!!! Privacy my ass
R.J. Carter August 14th, 2014 at 2:58 pm
Sunshine Law not applicable to police incidents.
Lawsuit from ACLU is not a law.
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 4:41 pm
Try reading it, the ACLU did.
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 4:41 pm
Try reading it, the ACLU did.
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 4:49 pm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/236822966/2014-08-14-Sunshine-Petition
Dirk Prophet August 14th, 2014 at 4:49 pm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/236822966/2014-08-14-Sunshine-Petition
TEEJAYZ August 14th, 2014 at 3:44 pm
Bad move for all concerned. First, ANYONE can say they are ‘Anonymous” and can post the info of ANYONE they choose. And what’s the end game here? Throwing red meat to a crowd for some street justice? Are we devolving in to the Middle East? Is it time for Sharia law?
I was in L.A. for the riots and have a pretty good understanding of mob mentality. Ferguson isn’t Los Angeles and the looting was obviously done by scum who just recognized an opportunity for free stuff. What needs to take place is continued PEACEFUL protests, which is our right, and when the police behave inappropriately or illegally they need to be taken down by the law. It looks like that is what is going to take place and when/if it does, a LARGER more important message will be sent.
geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 11:52 pm
I couldn’t agree with you more.
damorganjr August 14th, 2014 at 5:08 pm
LOL! their account was suspended by twitter. That’s what you get when you try to fuel more riots and looting of c-stores. Also, they could have gotten that person killed.
ExPat ExLawyer August 14th, 2014 at 6:54 pm
No, it’s the police who are fomenting misinformation by acting more secret than the Stasi.
damorganjr October 12th, 2014 at 10:52 am
Looking back on this, I think we can agree that you were wrong ExPat ExLawyer. The police were just doing an investigation. They are actually not obligated to keep you informed in their progress.
AnonymousSupporter August 14th, 2014 at 8:00 pm
Anonymous doesn’t condone violence or looting, peaceful protest is whats proposed in such situations, but when the time comes we will stand together against the crooked government.
drnimrod August 16th, 2014 at 12:20 am
Oh god please shut your fucking face.
damorganjr August 14th, 2014 at 5:08 pm
LOL! their account was suspended by twitter. That’s what you get when you try to fuel more riots and looting of c-stores. Also, they could have gotten that person killed.
Gary August 14th, 2014 at 6:35 pm
How ’bout this? ” This is the Governor of Missouri; I am calling in the National Guard to Ferguson. We will be surrounding the police headquarters with our SWAT teams in an attempt to find a potential murderer. Do not interfere. This is the only warning you will receive’ Kinda like what cops do when they’re not sure what’s going on.
geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 11:41 pm
The Missouri National Guard doesn’t have SWAT teams.
ExPat ExLawyer August 14th, 2014 at 6:54 pm
Looks like Twitter suspended the Anonymous account!
DD August 14th, 2014 at 7:27 pm
What the police in Ferguson have created is a hostile community that they will never have the trust of again.
geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 11:50 pm
The police in Ferguson didn’t create the hostile community out of a vacuum. There are citizens in the community who share that blame and outsiders who have latched onto to the tragic death of MIchael Brown to further their own agendas of hatred and division in this country.
DD August 16th, 2014 at 2:37 am
You may have a point, but the police escalated the hostility by shooting rubber bullets and tear gassing their citizens. Interesting how the Ferguson chief managed this situation with fear and hostility and when the state police show up and take over the residents are treated with understanding and compassion. The whole environment was changed with showing respect to those who needed their voice heard. People who are shown respect will return with respect in most cases.
I still stand by my original post that the Ferguson police may have damaged their ability to ever have trust with their citizens again. I would put money on the chief being replaced in the not too distant future.
GeekTinker August 16th, 2014 at 5:11 am
That’s why I said “shared the blame”. The other side of the argument is that citizens escalated the hostility with police by blocking the street and throwing rocks and molotov cocktails at police. The law doesn’t allow the police to simply stand by while some people are looting, pillaging, and rioting. I can’t blame the police officers who are defending themselves and their co-workers from deadly threats.
What is interesting how this same hostility continued late Friday night / early Saturday morning with more looting and rioting – all while the State police were there treating the “residents with understanding and compassion”.
At some point when the police retreated, after more looting had begun, rioters began shooting firearms into the air. Those rounds have to come down somewhere. I honestly think it’s outsiders, people not from Ferguson, and people not even from Missouri who are the cause of the trouble – morphing from peaceful protestors to rioters and looters.
On a good note, it has been reported that the actual residents formed lines around businesses blocking the looters from getting back into the buildings.
Zot OfKithairon August 14th, 2014 at 7:41 pm
an investigation shouldn’t take this long. just arrest the scumbag cop already and make an example of him. give a hard-nosed speech condemning him and explainging that he will be prosecuted to the fullest extent. this will give the ppl what they want: justice. those retards could’ve prevented this by doing that right away instead of protecting some moron racist out of some bs code, when that moron is endangering their jobs and the community, ya know the place their supposed to protect. fuck those idiots.
geektinker August 14th, 2014 at 11:48 pm
Investigations do actually take this long, and even longer. Real life doesn’t work the way it does on television, solving the crime within an hour.
Arresting the officer and charging him with anything won’t resolve anything. In fact, rushing it could taint evidence and would allow him a mistrial if he is guilty of any wrongdoing.
Many people in this country won’t be happy until he is tried, found guilty (whether he is or not), and hung in the town square. For some, that may still not be enough.
I fear what we have seen so far in Ferguson, Missouri is only the tip of the iceberg for what is to come and I pray that cooler heads prevail before the civil unrest gets out hand on a national level.
Peacefully protesting is one thing, but those who would foster violence in order to take advantage of the situation to further their own agendas is completely and utterly wrong.
uuberdude August 14th, 2014 at 8:28 pm
Hee hee. He can run, but he can’t hide. It matters not whose identity the pigs try to hide. They will all pay.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lidzCI3teyM&feature=player_detailpage
R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 11:39 am
Okay, I’ll bite.
Pay how, and in what currency?
Eric Trommater August 15th, 2014 at 10:37 pm
From the video I’d say X-Box point.
Cynthia Robinson August 15th, 2014 at 12:03 am
Whoa People, WE all know that an ‘Administrative Leave’ is first on the Due Process; Paid Vacation.
The ‘Blue Code of Silence’ goes into effect, Brother Cops ‘covering’ their Ass!
The REAL Truth may NEVER be known. In the interim, protests, rioting, looting, and violence have been the mind-set of the People.
THIS can’t be accomplishing ANYTHING; Violence begetting Violence.
Yes, the officer, who allegedly shot and killed Michael Brown, needs to be arrested as any other murder suspect would. This officer is not Above the Law; In fact, LEO (Law Enforcement Officer) are HELD TO A HIGHER STANDARD. A police cadet is SWORN to ‘Protect and Serve’ the United States Citizens, not to kill at will! WE provide their paychecks, as taxpayers.
When WE, as American Citizens, decide Enough is Enough, which is the thinking of Ferguson, Missouri, L.A. California, and McGregor, Texas people, just to name a few; WE can’t allow LEO to randomly kill our youth.
You or I, if suspected of causing lethal harm to another person, would be arrested.
WE, as American Citizens, should DEMAND the arrest of the officer who fired the shots.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 12:15 am
SCOTUS shot down that “protect and serve” mumbo jumbo a while ago. Police officers are there to uphold the law. This is why I support being armed to protect myself. Because the police won’t always be there to protect me and my family. I think what we should be demanding is due process.
Do you think the community would be as outraged if this story had been about a police officer who had been shot, while on duty, with his own firearm? Would Anonymous be helping with the manhunt for those responsible for that?
The one-sided, impatient stance that most people are taking really makes me fear for the future of this country. If we can’t look at a situation both objectively and subjectively, allowing for due process, then we will soon be completely lost as a nation.
Lwayno August 15th, 2014 at 8:02 am
The Gestapo strikes again!
R.J. Carter August 15th, 2014 at 11:39 am
Anonymous? Yep.
geektinker August 15th, 2014 at 10:41 pm
Imagine your outrage if I spoke of Mike Brown the way you just did about the officer and used such profanity.
Mike Brown was an adult. Dorian Johnson is 22 and I understand that two men decided to assault a police officer and take his firearm. Poor chioces of who you choose as friends to hang out with and poor decisions have consequences. Unfortunately for Mike Brown’s family his poor choices and decisions resulted in his death. My sympathies to his loved ones.