Live On CNN: ‘We Ain’t Worried About The Motherf*cking National Guard!’
CNN reporter Ed Lavandera was in the middle of the crowd when a shirtless protester had a message. [su_center_ad]
We ain’t worried about the motherfucking National Guard! Fuck them!” the man shouted at the camera. After a few seconds, the reporter was able to resume what he was trying to say about the heavy police presence in the street.
Governor Jay Nixon (D-MO) deployed the National Guard to take charge of the crowd control operation earlier in the day on Monday.
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 10:40 am
What comes after the National Guard in the force escalation process?
uzza August 19th, 2014 at 11:21 am
Foundryman August 19th, 2014 at 2:00 pm
If followed by the way things work in Iraq and Afghanistan…I’d say..live bullets.. Air strikes.. Smart bombs…Shock and Awe…..Bill O’Reilly?
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 4:42 pm
Progressively more destructive. I like it!
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 6:03 pm
Well, unlike the Rodney King incident, they have not yet burned their homes….
granpa.usthai August 19th, 2014 at 3:10 pm
the white racist in the Guard will merely change their uniforms to the new National Republican Uniform. Most likely the Feds will retreat as in Nevada, then after the white racist backed by ‘white Senators just like them’ (ref. WHITE Senator Rand Paul (R) Kentucky have done what THEY consider should be (laws be damned) I suppose they’ll star heading east towards DC.
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 4:43 pm
You see white people the way Haley Joel Osment sees dead people.
cecilia August 19th, 2014 at 5:25 pm
it’s too bad white racists aren’t really dead – instead of being brain dead
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 6:02 pm
same thought on the black racists…or is racism just a white thing?
cecilia August 19th, 2014 at 6:43 pm
I saw someone on line express this perfectly:
“By definition of racism, people of color can’t be racist. They can be bigots, but lack the institutional power to be “racist.” ”
if you don’t understand the distinction, I can’t help you.
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 7:07 pm
perhaps their expression was “perfect’ in your mind….let’s try the definition:
noun ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-
: poor treatment of or violence against people because of their race
: the belief that some races of people are better than others
Do you see the problem with your “perfect” expression?
I just did help you…….
cecilia August 19th, 2014 at 7:31 pm
too bad you don’t have perfect understanding.
I already agree that non-Caucasians (whatever their background) can certainly be bigots, unpleasant, criminal and just plain stupid. Humans are like that sometimes.
But it’s the institutional power that the people with advantages have that makes THEIR particular bad behavior even more oppressive.
The fact is that certain Caucasians have been marginalizing the powerless for centuries. It leaves a mark.
Because I am female I have on occasion been marginalized. So i know how it feels. Because I am VERY pale, it’s only been occasionally. So i wasn’t traumatized by it. Just annoyed.
I can’t even begin to really know what it’s like to be black AND female….they have to be tough to put up with the bs they must get everyday. And when you are surrounded by racism every single day it just becomes part of your life. If you don’t understand that you have no empathy.
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 8:08 pm
My problem with your rationalization is that it paints with to wide a brush. My belief is that you are speaking of an extremely small group of people….as you said, “Certain Caucasians.” Those “Certain Caucasians.” also discriminate against other white people as their greed is color blind…other than green…but, power is their addiction. They are entertained by dividing the country by race, by gender, and by “social standing”, all while vacationing on their yachts in the south of France or in the Hamptons.
cecilia August 19th, 2014 at 8:59 pm
I’m not sure why you think you are disagreeing with what I said
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 9:03 pm
Funny, I was thinking that of you. I disagree with the premise of the quote…..Anyone can be racist.
cecilia August 19th, 2014 at 9:39 pm
what you don’t understand is that “institutional power” that only racists can wield.
I can vehemently dislike the moron who says, “I don’t have to pay you the same as a man because, well, you’re just a girl….”
but HE is the one preventing me from getting decent pay.
I can say all sorts of bad things about the guy if I’m so inclined, but i can’t do anything to change HIS ability to earn a living. Well, not directly.
What I always did the few times I encountered such an idiot is deny them My talents, My work ethic, and MY value as a colleague. They wouldn’t appreciate what they were missing but the people that DID treat me like a valuable human being were graced with work that won awards.
Now, not everyone deals with racism / sexism / etc with grace and aplomb. Some people get very destructive. I’m not excusing that behavior, but i certainly understand where it’s coming from. But it’s NOT the same thing as the people With The Power to Abuse.
Mickey August 20th, 2014 at 12:00 pm
When I was first hired in 1971 by a major Fortune 50 company the man who hired me was from India. He told me my starting salary would be 20% less than the married people he hired. I accepted it and vowed I’d make more, which I did. I understand that life is not always fair, that people need to make decisions in life, and that hard work improves your job performance, thus improves your income….don’t assume you are all knowing
cecilia August 20th, 2014 at 12:09 pm
wow, you really ARE clueless.
it’s one thing to have a policy where a married (and supposedly the only breadwinner) gets a larger paycheck than single employees. On a certain level it’s fair.
Plus, you CAN choose to be married.
I can not choose to change my sex. I don’t have to be all knowing to spot bigotry.
And when I did meet people who appreciated my talents I was rewarded with respect and a bit of money. It’s the respect I really value.
and btw, if hard work always resulted in more money, my mother should be a billionaire. but teachers don’t get the respect they deserve in this society
Mickey August 20th, 2014 at 5:51 pm
Actually, if you read what you wrote above, you would see how truly clueless you are regarding equal pay for equal work. It was not a company policy, it was his on the spot decision. Also, you SUPPOSE ( big mistake) that the husband is the only breadwinner.
And, BTW, my daughter is a Special Ed teacher and my parents owned an independent pharmacy for which they left home at 7:00 AM and returned at 9 PM 5 days a week…opened sat 9-2…opened Sunday 9 till noon…your mother wasn’t the only hard worker in a family.
Your lack of intellect is beginning to bore me…..
Have a nice life..
cecilia August 20th, 2014 at 7:18 pm
so you are saying you aren’t quite sure WHY the boss on the spot decided to give you 20% less pay than who knows how many other employees, but this is ok because a sexist pig NOT wanting to pay me BECAUSE and ONLY because I am female is something I should accept with a happy smile?
I’m not expecting people to throw money at my feet just because It would be cool. Or because I might like it. You are missing the point, once again.
When a guy tells you straight out that THE reason he’s not paying you is because you are female that is inequality at it’s core definition.
Just turn it around. If that boss had said to YOU, “I’m paying you 20% less than the other employees BECAUSE you are a man..” – I think your hackles would rise.
If you have any self respect at least I would hope so
Mickey August 20th, 2014 at 8:04 pm
Please try to follow the bouncy ball….I said he TOLD ME I did not NEED 20% more BECAUSE I WAS SINGLE…..I never said it was ok, either….stop fabricating….HE SAID ” “I’m paying you 20% less than the other employees BECAUSE you are a single man..”
My wife also experienced income inequality while as an exec at Macy’s…she didn’t b*itch about it.
Don’t you worry about my self respect…you know NOTHING about me….that was an obnoxious statement and revealed much more about you
cecilia August 20th, 2014 at 9:16 pm
so, it WAS because you were single – as I originally referred to. You are the one who can’t keep your story straight.
Once again – being married or not is a choice. And however inconvenient it may be there IS a little logic to getting less as a single person than a married person. Being “fair” is another conversation.
I never said I “bitched” about the sexism I discovered in the course of my career. First of all, it was rare. As soon as someone showed their true colors during an interview I put them in my “never work with this loser” list.
For any young people reading this here’s some advice: When someone shows you disrespect on 1st meeting you they will NEVER respect you in the future. They will NEVER pay you what you are worth, they will NEVER treat you well…never never never. So remove them from your life.
I just move onto the next candidate. I don’t get upset or angry. I say nothing to them.
Here I am just discussing this reality. Doesn’t mean I’m angry. Plus all this is in the way distant past.
As to the last statement: I proposed a thought experiment and you react with, well, I don’t know what? A fit of pique?
seriously, i don’t know what your problem is. You don’t seem emotionally stable. relax…this is just a discussion of ideas
Mickey August 21st, 2014 at 2:34 pm
I see. Calling me “clueless” is just a discussion of ideas. You question my self respect and I should let it go?
But, this is just a discussion of ideas
cecilia August 21st, 2014 at 4:42 pm
Pay attention: you are getting away from the main point.
I was trying to explain what sexism is.
My thought experiment again:
If that boss had said to YOU, “I’m paying you 20% less than the other employees BECAUSE you are a man..”
focus on this:
“BECAUSE you are a man..”
how would you feel?
Mickey August 21st, 2014 at 5:49 pm
As Hillary Clinton spouted “What difference does it make?” The result was the same…THAT is the point…You’re focusing on the journey, not the result…I understand your point as my wife went through the same exercise…she worked through it and was highly successful….she focused on the result….
cecilia August 21st, 2014 at 6:36 pm
“The result was the same”
well, only if you want to simplify reality……
ok, it’s quite true that MY personal experience with sexism is really minor…..but if you were talking to a Suffragette, your ‘the result is the same’ line would be very insulting. I mean those women were physically abused.
racism and sexism is not about some minor inconvenience I may have experienced long ago. Its about a systematic marginalizing of a group of people JUST because of of some physical attribute they they were born with.
You long ago boss deciding to pay you a little less $$ had no centuries of historical insults behind it.
Believe me, I am INCREDIBLY grateful to every Suffragette, my grandmother, my mother and all of the women centuries before me who put up with – and fought against – all that incredible garbage so that I could pursue a great career. I am So lucky and I NEVER forget it.
Mickey August 21st, 2014 at 7:14 pm
So, it’s a matter of degree of insult ? Your indignation is worse than mine? Indeed, women have been unfairly subjugated. Subjugation seems to be a common practice in humans…been so forever…slowly, it’s changing in some parts of the world
cecilia August 21st, 2014 at 7:30 pm
why is this always a contest for you?
Mickey August 21st, 2014 at 7:55 pm
same reason it is for you
cecilia August 21st, 2014 at 10:29 pm
no, I never discount other people’s “pain”.
You just don’t understand that your situation is not systematic bigotry. That doesn’t mean I don’t understand what you went through.
cecilia August 20th, 2014 at 8:50 am
Mickey August 20th, 2014 at 11:54 am
Touching article…perhaps it would have been more meaningful if it was the father having the conversation with his son.
twocents August 19th, 2014 at 10:06 pm
Glad to see you’re doing your part to end racism
NW10 August 19th, 2014 at 10:49 am
Another Ferguson protester cusses out Fox: “Say that S*IT!”
R.J. Carter August 19th, 2014 at 10:50 am
FOX should have sent in a more daring reporter to cover this.
edmeyer_able August 19th, 2014 at 12:41 pm
How ironic that the reporter says “there’s different groups with different goals”. Kind of shocked for a minute I thought he was describing a real news station and Fox.
BanditBasheert August 19th, 2014 at 1:04 pm
Amazing that protestor wasn’t shot for “talking while black”.
pmbalele August 19th, 2014 at 2:45 pm
The Ferguson crisis is a product of TP behavior – hatred on Blacks. TPs have been building hatred against Blacks since 2009 after Obama was sworn in as President. By 2010 TP, backed by FoxNews, was a driving force to ensure President Obama was not
successful because of his race. 2011 was actually worse for Blacks and progressive as result of TP taking over Congress. So racists in government and in private sector had somebody backing up in Congress. We saw an increase of discrimination and bigotry in jobs, housing and colleges. Blacks are mistreated everywhere. Unfortunately Michael Brown has died because of TPs and racists. We are told Missouri is infested with KKKs and TPs big time. That is why there are no Black police in Ferguson. How can people live peacefully if they are not represented in government? That is why that police officer shot Brown 6 times. He was just expressing the conspiracy in Ferguson police department – hatred against Blacks backed by TPs. I hope Brown’s death, although very unfortunate,
will unite people in this country as 911 did. We have to be careful with TPs – they are extension of KKK and therefore dangerous to this Country.
cecilia August 19th, 2014 at 5:24 pm
if there’s one important lesson in Ferguson is that EVERYONE needs to go out and vote. I’m not imping that will solve all problems and it won’t ‘get rid’ of racism, but people have to get politically involved because THAT will show that their opinions have power.
pmbalele August 19th, 2014 at 7:06 pm
Beautiful posting. In 2012 I went around my neighborhood to encourage
people to vote for President Obama. Blacks, Whites and other racial minorities did it; and Obama was re-elected. We are told Ferguson had only 2 black officers out of 20 when Blacks were 1/3 of the population. Shame! But this also was engineered by stupid TPs who want to take us back to the 50s and 60s. Yes. You’re right.
cecilia August 19th, 2014 at 7:12 pm
for decades I’ve heard people say they don’t vote because it will do no good. I say, first go out and vote and THEN see if it makes a difference.
and, of course, care about WHO you are voting for.
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 6:00 pm
you are an idiot
pmbalele August 19th, 2014 at 7:12 pm
Just because you are White I should be an idiot for being Black. TPs have ruined this country. This Country was steadily and fast improving as to race relations. But once TP infused with KKKs came in the whole progress halted. Anyway Americans have learned how stupid and evil TPs are. Do
not vote for TPs in November.
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 7:49 pm
proving my point one word at a time…..
pmbalele August 19th, 2014 at 8:25 pm
You’re right that “the race division has been developed and
exploited by our government” –TPs in Congress. This Country was quiet until stupid TPs came in. Do you remember those toothless women brandishing Nazi flags at the Capital? Those were paid TPs by FoxNews and right wing billionaires. Now TPs are quiet like hyenas. They know they caused the death of Brown. I hope with Michael Brown death this Country will rebuild again.
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 8:57 pm
So, your claim is that racism in politics and in America began in 2009 when the TP was initiated AND that racism is the goal of Fox News? Is that your claim? AND, racism is limited to ALL white people hating blacks only…Also, please cite proof that those “toothless” women (white, I suppose) were paid by Fox News and “right wing billionaires”.to kill Brown..meanwhile, what are all the left wing billionaires doing? Or, perhaps there are none in your world.
Also…please explain this: http://violenceagainstwhites.wordpress.com/the-hate-crimes-you-dont-hear-about/
pmbalele August 19th, 2014 at 9:33 pm
Yes to all your questions. I stand by my statements that
racism was quiet until President Obama took reign of President in 2009. That is when TP was born. Obama gave them Obamacare and cut tax for TPs still these toothless unhealthy people yelled at President Obama – for What-he had Black Blood. Even their leader Glen Beck has apologized for leading TP. TPs anger was absorbed by White state and local police officers – who sought revenge. And we Blacks have been putting up with police state and local government supervisors’ abuse since 2009. Black people have been peaceful all this time despite the abuse. Did I tell you in Wisconsin there are two state departments don’t want to hire Blacks – Corrections and Natural Resources? I hope Scott Walker does not win. He ran as TPs and therefore has endorsed racism in state government. Please call those Wisconsin agencies and ask them if they have Blacks. They don’t; and I have that evidence. TP have caused the death of Brown.
cecilia August 19th, 2014 at 9:44 pm
there’s NO question that racism has been in the background for years……..but it CAME OUT very much in the public eye when those that have always been racist were OFFENDED (chuckle chuckle) by the very fact that Obama was elected.
I mean they can not stand it that there is a “Knee Grow” in the White House. They get apoplectic about that fact. They talk about Mrs Obama is ways that no one has EVER spoken about a First Lady ever. It’s disgraceful! And has nothing to do with disagreements in policy.
Mickey August 20th, 2014 at 11:13 am
And the left was disgraceful to George & Laura Bush…..it apparently comes with the job….the dividers have done their job well…both sides, at least the extremists, hate each other. But, they are not the majority.
cecilia August 20th, 2014 at 11:53 am
I don’t agree on attacking Laura Bush. She’s not an elected official.
george, on the other hand was a horrible president and deserves all the derision he can get. Mostly for allowing cheney and his warmongers to sink us into wars by outrageous mendacity.
being honest about that is not divisive. Except to those who are so blind to the truth.
anyway, you miss the point. People who hate Obama ONLY hate him because he’s not ‘one of them’
Mickey August 20th, 2014 at 5:39 pm
if George was so horrible, why did America re elect him to a 2nd term…like we did obama? Look, neither Bush nor Obama were/are very good presidents…the novelty wears off a second term president shortly after his re election…happened to Reagan and Clinton too.
cecilia August 20th, 2014 at 7:06 pm
bush squeaked through the second time because rove led the disinformation charge.
Did you forget all the swiftboating bullshit?
rove was working overtime to continue the lies. now there’s a creature that needs have his head shoved in a toilet
and george will be listed as a horrible president long after we are all dead. Of that I am sure
Obama will be known for his work toward Marriage Equality and gay rights. And for slowing down the bush legacy. Obama isn’t Superman. I never expected him to accomplish even what he has. But it will take a long time for America to recover from the crap that cheney has engineered.
and that’s ONLY if Americans don’t vote in more asswipes
Mickey August 20th, 2014 at 7:51 pm
So, Bush “squeaked by Kerry 51%-48% and Obama obliterated Romney 51%-47%. Now I get it…..do you remember your thoughts of Bush and Cheney during 911? BTW, 911 actually happened first under Clinton in the underground parking garages of the WTC in 1993. Oh, nobody ever said Bush was Superman either. Karl Rove and Valerie Jarrett were produced from the same mold. That’s their job….Obama’s legacy will be ACA…you’re right about America not needing any more asswipes…we’ve had nothing but for the past 3 decades or so.
cecilia August 20th, 2014 at 9:03 pm
>do you remember your thoughts of Bush and Cheney during 911
yes, and bush spent the entire summer “battling” those violent stem cells. As soon as the war cries began I objected. I am completely and totally anti-war. always have been.
Always will be.
war is stupid and a waste.
my (former) room mate and friend worked in one of the Twin Towers. When the explosion occurred she walked down some 30 floors in the darken staircase with her fellow workers.
Clinton didn’t sit on his hands. The people responsible were eventually arrested, brought to trial and are in jail. What did bush do about 9-11 ??
oh, yeah, nothing…
And the ACA is a good thing. If congress wasn’t in the pockets of insurance co. it would have been single payer, but that can happen later.
Small steps, esp as congress is populated by a bunch of do-nothing teabaggers.
Mickey August 21st, 2014 at 2:26 pm
don’t blame the teabaggers without blaming the democrats and republicans…they all are compliant in this mess….I can name at least 20 politicians in congress who have NO qualifications and no right being there…at least 20….If you think ACA is good then you believe skyrocketing deductibles and copays are good for 3/4 of the country….if 15% of the population had a problem with healthcare, then obama should have fixed 15%…period…end of statement…he lied and continues to lie about his gigantic error….
cecilia August 21st, 2014 at 4:34 pm
oh, don’t give me the usual, “they are all equally crappy” routine.
1) I’ve never belonged or affiliated myself with ANY political party. When I was 18 and registered to vote I said, “Independent”. And I haven’t changed my mind about that. So I have no interest in playing your game
I don’t believe I should support a party or politician. THEY should support ME. I’m the citizen…I’m the Voter. I’m the boss. THEY are public servants. That’s means they are the downstairs maid. If they don’t support me, I won’t vote for them.
So get off your high horse.
The teabaggers came in and have significantly made congress worse. That doesn’t mean congress was brilliant before. They just suck moose juice now.
And the ACA is just the first step towards America Finally joining the 21st century with a humane health care system. If voters can finally kick out the losers from congress we can get professional human beings in there to clean up the ACA details…maybe make it single payer finally.
Bitch about it all you like, but I have friends and family in Europe. They are doing fine with their health care. WAY better than in America.
If you like the idea of middle class families going bankrupt because someone gets sick, then fine for you.
I’m not that horrible
Mickey August 21st, 2014 at 5:42 pm
You are telling me the TPers are bad….I assume you mean ALL the TPers are “bad”….as you did not name names…I am not playing a “game” with you as I find you an inferior opponent. Regarding ACA and your ” friends and family in Europe” perhaps your should simply join them….BTW, before ACA I was doing fine with my healthcare….I know of NO middle class friends or family members who went bankrupt because someone got sick…nice try though
cecilia August 21st, 2014 at 6:18 pm
just so you realize that the tea party was begun and financed by the koch bros. I’ll let you ferment that fact
I’d LOVE to live in Europe. Right now my mother wants to be here and I’m taking care of her. Plus, NY is actually a wonderful place to live. We are civilized up here.
“I know of NO middle class friends or family members who went bankrupt because someone got sick”
that had me rolling….thanks for the laugh
Mickey August 21st, 2014 at 6:57 pm
There is no distinction between Koch and Soros….
you keep rolling on the floor….Pick up your fiddle…Rome is burning….sadly, no one cares
Mickey August 20th, 2014 at 11:28 am
You need a history lesson about racism. You also need a reality check on why the TP was created and what their original goal was to uphold the constitution and the laws already on the books in 2009. Apparently the people of the very liberal state of Wisconsin disagree with you, as Scott Walker was elected with a 53% majority. The reason people dislike Obama is due to his extreme leftist policies and his perceived lack of leadership. The TP had nothing to do with Brown’s death
cecilia August 20th, 2014 at 11:59 am
Obama is a moderate, not anything like an “extreme leftist”.
you guys would hate Eisenhower (also a moderate) if he was alive and running today.
And I STILL Like Ike 🙂
Mickey August 20th, 2014 at 5:34 pm
you have an opinion and you know what they say about opinions…..obama is not a moderate,but he claims to be and surrounds himself with them….he is great at deflecting and does a great job at delivering Valerie Jarrett’s messages .. …btw, I liked Ike too.
cecilia August 20th, 2014 at 6:59 pm
some “liberals” don’t like Obama Because he’s too moderate for them. I’ve seen them complain about this all the time he has been in office. You can’t have it both ways.
when he is disliked by both sides of the extremes that by definition makes him a moderate.
pmbalele August 20th, 2014 at 5:59 pm
Welcome to the discussion. I was alive when TP was created in 2009 – six months after President Obama was sworn in as Commander-In Chief. TP wanted tax cuts. President Obama used his pen to cut tax for low and middle income people. I thought these morons would go home. No. TPs, funded by right-wing billionaires, still stayed in Washington to rally against the President. I did not understand. But later I found they were an off-shoot of KKK. That made sense. Well in 2010 TEA Party was buzz word. My friends in private sector and in state and local governments joined TP. Actually they mocked me for supporting President Obama initiatives. One element came out loud and clear. TP were not pleased the WH was occupied by Blacks. Well indeed in 2010 my friends, mostly Whites, voted for Repubs and for Scott Walker. Here is a laugh. As soon as Walker was sworn in 2011 – he took out all state employees and local government benefits such as free health insurance and any work protections. The same friends who had mocked me dumb for being pro-Obama came back crying: “You were right -we voted for a tyrant – Walker. He is a killer.” You would not believe how chaotic
the Wisconsin capital was in January of 2011. White people banged doors, walls, slept and peed in the capital. Walker with support of TPs did not budge. Okay! Then they wielded to recall Walker – they lost again. In 2012 people in Wisconsin
had woke up. They renounced TP and came back to my corner to vote for President Obama. Obama won Wisconsin despite Paul Ryan, the GOP VP, was from Wisconsin. Wisconsin people found out what TEA party stood for – EVIL- to divide the Country into racial line. American people resisted. In November American people are going to reclaim
their Country back from TP.
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 6:00 pm
you are an idiot
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 6:06 pm
where’s the media? where’s the outrage? where’s the protests?
Mickey August 19th, 2014 at 6:09 pm
Where’s the media? where’s the outrage? where is “The reverend al”, where’s Jesse?
Mickey August 21st, 2014 at 8:30 pm
civil conversation, eh? “the same” as the c0ck bros”…eloquent language from someone posing as a lady.
Also, you reveal your true thinking by blaming Reagan and Cheney….the angelic left has no blame in this…
I really am done with you…..take good care of your mother…
cecilia August 21st, 2014 at 10:36 pm
I NEVER call myself a “lady”.
Reagan has a huge list of mistakes…They have been listed for a long time now. I’m surprised you haven’t seen them.
I blame Clinton for the removal of Glass-Steagall. THAT was a big mistake. But life in the US was generally good during the 90’s. I had many of my best jobs during those years. And it was because the money was flowing around. The middle class was doing fine.
As soon as bush came in the economy began it’s plummet. And people in my line of work are like the canary in the mines – we can feel when there’s no oxygen before everyone else does.