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August 21, 2014 6:34 pm - NewsBehavingBadly.com

nc_incentives[su_right_ad]Nice going, Tea Party! Looks like you — and hard right multimillionaire Art Pope, who has essentially bought the legislature and state house — have dealt another blow to state jobs by driving television and film production out of state!

As California moves closer to quadrupling tax incentives for film production, North Carolina is moving in the opposite direction, cutting its program this week by two-thirds. The Tar Heel state joins a growing list of those that have scaled back their incentives programs or eliminated them altogether.

Pushback from Tea Party ideologues who oppose all forms of tax incentives that favor one industry over another is largely responsible for the growing trend. That’s especially true in red states whose legislatures or state houses are dominated by fiscal conservatives — as is the case in North Carolina. “The Tea Party faction played a huge role,” said an entertainment-industry source familiar with the situation in the state. “It’s not just about film incentives; it’s about an anti-government spending philosophy across the board.”

[su_r_sky_ad]Beginning January 1, North Carolina will replace its 25% refundable tax credit with a $10 million competitive grant program, capped at $5 million per production. Funding for the program will be cut from $60 million a year to $10 million. The MPAA had urged NC legislators to continue funding at current levels, which the trade association says was responsible for more than 12,000 jobs in the state (including more than 3,000 production jobs) and more than $538 million in wages from production and distribution-related jobs. “It’s disappointing that the new grant program included in the budget agreement will prevent North Carolina from remaining competitive in attracting this prominent source of in-state economic activity,” MPAA spokesperson Kate Bedingfield said.

Recent films and TV shows shot in the state include The Hunger Games, Iron Man 3, Tammy, Homeland, Under The Dome and Eastbound And Down.

D.B. Hirsch
D.B. Hirsch is a political activist, news junkie, and retired ad copy writer and spin doctor. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.

41 responses to Tea Party Kills Job Creation In North Carolina

  1. mea_mark August 21st, 2014 at 6:49 pm

    I’ll bet there is still corporate welfare for Art Pope and his cronies and I bet it doesn’t create jobs, it just goes in their overseas bank accounts. TPr’s are idiots if they think these people are operating in their best interest and not scamming them.

  2. Red Eye Robot August 21st, 2014 at 6:50 pm

    I thought the left didn’t like welfare for millionaires? the left has always said cutting taxes on the rich doesn’t create jobs so what’s the fuss?

    • Tommy6860 August 21st, 2014 at 6:59 pm

      Your understanding on what this means and how tax incentives work, is painfully lacking.

      • Suzanne McFly August 21st, 2014 at 7:25 pm

        His “understanding” for anything is painfully lacking.

      • Red Eye Robot August 21st, 2014 at 8:02 pm

        Tell me what I’m getting wrong

        • dave-dr-gonzo August 21st, 2014 at 8:44 pm

          Let’s start with the fundamentals of economics in a representative democracy, Stimpy.

          • Red Eye Robot August 21st, 2014 at 11:12 pm

            the fundamentals of economics? the tax incentive takes water out of one side of the pond and dumps it in the other side, You’re trying to tell me that raises the water level of the pond.

          • mea_mark August 22nd, 2014 at 11:42 am

            Moving money to where it will be spent and kept in circulation, raises the level. When excess capital is pulled from circulation because they have more than they need and is put in savings the level decreases. Incentives are designed to keep the money in circulation, thus raising the level. It is not taking money from one side of the pond and putting it on the other. It is keeping the water in the pond and moving it, making the pond more viable

    • mea_mark August 21st, 2014 at 7:02 pm

      Most of the people in the film industry aren’t rich. The welfare for the rich will continue, they are hurting those looking for work in their state. It is dumb selfish politics.

      • Red Eye Robot August 21st, 2014 at 8:01 pm

        The jobs are temporary, all these tax incentives do is put people on the state payroll while the production is in progress, the companies build no infrastructure and make no investment for future growth. its a scam to give rich people money

        • mea_mark August 21st, 2014 at 8:21 pm

          Tell that to the hotel and motel chains and all the people that are unemployed and at least find temporary work. You really don’t get it, do you? The money spent stays in the economy strengthening it.

          • OldLefty August 21st, 2014 at 8:57 pm

            Plus, because of the money, those people now can afford to get the new refrigerator,car, or even pizza and a movie once a week, which stimulates the economy and creates more jobs.

          • Red Eye Robot August 21st, 2014 at 11:08 pm

            And when the production leaves? where are those jobs?

          • cecilia August 22nd, 2014 at 6:03 pm

            other productions arrive…….NC was once known as a good location for films. Beautiful country, nice towns…local color and all that.

            If the teabaggers prevent production companies from even Considering NC as a Location, then all that money dries up and goes elsewhere

          • Red Eye Robot August 22nd, 2014 at 7:20 pm

            NC says film your movie here and we’ll give you money to spend here. In order to give that money away they have to take it from business’s & tax payers ALREADY doing business and paying taxes in NC.Taking Dollar$ from NC Schools, NC law enforcement, NC roads. etc etc. If the state gives a production company 25% of the cost to make a movie shouldn’t the state receive an equal percentage of the movies gross? The hunger games made $681 million. Shouldn’t NC get about $170 million of that?

            many blockbuster films were made in NC before the 2012 tax credit law was passed:
            Blue Velvet,
            Bull Durham,
            Cold Mountain,
            The Color Purple,
            Dirty Dancing,
            Forest Gump,
            The Green Mile,
            The Hunt For Red October,
            The Last of the Mohicans,
            Sleeping with the enemy.
            Seems like NC had no trouble attracting movie productions before they started giving tax payer dollars to rich people

        • dave-dr-gonzo August 21st, 2014 at 8:43 pm

          No. Resourceful and entrepreneurial production houses are able to weather waxing and waning business cycles. There would be more of these permanent production houses were it not for the Tea Party thugs.

        • tiredoftea August 21st, 2014 at 9:35 pm

          Cumulatively no. The money is directly spent in state for the local services. But, yes, there are no infrastructure investments over and above whatever the state is already doing. Which is not much in any event.

          But, you don’t support that anyway, so it’s all good to you, right?

    • edmeyer_able August 21st, 2014 at 7:13 pm

      The programs they are cutting have had a direct effect on creating work in the industry they were given. Unlike the cutting of corporate taxes given to companies that have moved factories overseas.

      • Red Eye Robot August 21st, 2014 at 7:57 pm

        Like Solyndra? Fiskars? Or like Delphi who the Obama admin helped move their corporate headquarters to Europe with $1.7 BILLION US tax dollars saving them $110 million a year in taxes?

        • edmeyer_able August 21st, 2014 at 8:14 pm

          When were the laws that gave that gave those breaks to the companies you listed enacted and who has been the Speaker since 2011.

          • Red Eye Robot August 21st, 2014 at 11:06 pm

            solyndra was part of the 2009 american recovery and investment act Nancy Pelosi was speaker

          • Obewon August 21st, 2014 at 11:58 pm

            Bullshit! Solyndra was cleared to participate in this loan-guarantee program by President George W. Bush’s administration. He also did not mention that the legislation creating the loan-guarantee program, approved by the Republican-controlled Congress in 2005, received yes votes from — wait for it — DeMint, Hatch and McConnell.

            “Loan guarantees aim to stimulate investment and commercialization of clean energy technologies to reduce our nation’s reliance on foreign sources of energy,” Bush’s energy secretary, Sam Bodman, announced in a press release on Oct. 4, 2007. http://www.alan.com/2011/09/28/whose-baby-is-solyndra/

            So much for finger in your eye radio actually telling you something accurate. Gutfeld & The Five admit the’re all alcoholics with only Bob Beckel in recovery.

          • Red Eye Robot August 22nd, 2014 at 1:21 am

            The Washington Post says you’re full of it

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/solyndra-scandal-timeline/ Solyndra wins loan Mar 2009

            http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/special/politics/solyndra-key-players/ Key players all either Obama admin. or Obama fundraisers/ bundlers or solyndra execs.

            Glowing story from the san jose mercury news 2010
            http://www.mercurynews.com/ci_15165220
            >ii<

            (note, they mention the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act., not the bush admin)

            You can make up all the phony baloney plastic banana stories you posted on this sight.

          • Obewon August 22nd, 2014 at 3:23 am

            GWB’s admin greenlighted Solyndra & also created the $100 B loan guarantee program with $10 B in loss reserves. -“the legislation creating the loan-guarantee program, was approved by the Republican-controlled Congress in 2005-07.”

            Solyndra and other Thin film solar panels simultaneously receive 8-10 wavelengths creating power on rainy and cloudy days. That’s why China was busted by the USA for dumping TFS & other solar cells at below cost.

            The 10-1 ROI of $60 M creating $535 M film jobs in the N.C. economy, is another excellent example of well stimulating paying jobs e.g. CBO’s facts that the measly $787 B 60% jobs stimulus created 7M+ of the Obama Admins 10 M+ private jobs created in 54 consecutive months of private jobs growth -ties the all-time record! Too bad the TP never voted for any jobs creating bills.

            GOP’s Claim That House Passed 30 Jobs Bills? Bogus! http://crooksandliars.com/karoli/gops-claim-house-passed-30-jobs-bills-bogus

          • Obewon August 22nd, 2014 at 6:20 am

            Chinese communists love the tea party! We’re lucky the TP didn’t kill any more domestic solar jobs. USA’s Thin-Film Solar Cell Efficiency Record Set By First Solar (again) http://cleantechnica.com/2014/08/07/thin-film-solar-cell-efficiency-record-set-first-solar/

        • dave-dr-gonzo August 21st, 2014 at 8:41 pm

          Solyndra — which was HEAVILY backed by GOP lobbyists, BTW – is irrelevant to this thread, Sparky. And according to that commie rag the Wall Street Journal, the Obama administration tried nto dissuade Delphi from moving, and in fact di not help them move.

          You must love being lied to by hate radio hosts, Skippy.

          • Anomaly 100 August 21st, 2014 at 10:28 pm

            Solyndra is interchangeable with Benghazi.

          • Red Eye Robot August 21st, 2014 at 11:02 pm

            yeah, they tried to dissuade them with $1.7 billion dollars

        • edmeyer_able August 21st, 2014 at 8:46 pm

          Your probably thinking of Sensata the company owned by Mit in 2012.

      • Always Right August 21st, 2014 at 10:07 pm

        It is corporate welfare. The leadership made a fiscal decision. http://www.wwaytv3.com/2014/04/07/new-report-says-film-study-wrong-nc-loses-money-incentives

    • tiredoftea August 21st, 2014 at 9:31 pm

      So, taking you at your word, supposedly, these incentives bring blue and white collar jobs to the state. Carpenters, catering companies, local actors, drivers and other assorted support positions that location filming produces.

  3. RK Johnston August 21st, 2014 at 6:56 pm

    Well, that one less worry for Hollyweird–BELAY THAT–Hollywood!
    –RKJ

  4. Always Right August 21st, 2014 at 10:08 pm

    It is a money loser. http://www.wwaytv3.com/2014/04/07/new-report-says-film-study-wrong-nc-loses-money-incentives

  5. Obewon August 21st, 2014 at 11:46 pm

    In Teabonics never assume mathematical literacy! A ten-fold Return On Investment via more than $538 million in TAXABLE wages from 12,000 production and distribution-related jobs from a puny $60 million a year ITC.

    Meanwhile the Koch bros. founded & funded Tea Klan can’t explain why they don’t deride BIG Oil’s 102% Average tax credits for the wealthiest & most profitable corps in human history~!

    • Bobby August 22nd, 2014 at 10:01 am

      Corps. don’t pay taxes people do. If you raise there taxes they raise the price of there goods or services. So in the end It is we the people that pay 100% of taxes,

      • cecilia August 22nd, 2014 at 5:56 pm

        corporations are people or haven’t you heard 🙂

      • Obewon August 22nd, 2014 at 6:00 pm

        U.S. Corps that pay U. S. federal income taxes average 12%, near the bottom for developed nations.

        While all U.S. wages paid total just 7% of U.S. record $14.2 T GDP = 7 cents per each $1 in gross sales.

  6. Thomas Eure August 22nd, 2014 at 2:50 am

    Everyone in this discussion should watch Foster Gamble’s “Thrive”. It’s free on http://www.thrivemovement.com The first part is far out and if you are not familiar with Tesla and the Torus just skip it. The second and third parts reveal what is really going on in the world. You can watch it on your computer or hook up with an HDMI cable and see it on TV. Our government has now officially been changed from a democracy to an oligarchy and this DVD explains it all. Also if you haven’t read the “Georgia Guidestones” you’re missing the agenda of the super rich.

  7. Dave Lanson August 22nd, 2014 at 5:47 am

    That’s no big loss to the TV and movie industry. Other states have trailer parks and Ku Klux Klan rallies to film.

  8. Dave August 22nd, 2014 at 11:44 am

    So if they’re against these tax breaks, when are they going to go after Duke Energy?…..Oh that’s right, they give them so much money that Duke is now exempt. What a bunch of hypocrites!

  9. Concerned50 August 23rd, 2014 at 12:09 am

    Good Job North Carolina Legislature… you finally got it right. State tax rate cuts do not create jobs, (http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/03/25/1769981/state-level-tax-cuts-dont-boost-job-growth-study-says/)
    as the Center on Budget and Policy Priorities has shown
    (http://www.offthechartsblog.org/big-cuts-in-state-income-taxes-arent-a-ticket-to-stronger-growth/).

    Neither do specific tax incentive
    programs: “there is no conclusive evidence from research studies conducted
    since the mid-1950s to show that business tax incentives create net economic
    gains…[or] have an impact on business location and expansion decisions,”
    experts Marilyn Rubin and Donald Boyd wrote in a report (http://www.capitalnewyork.com/sites/default/files/131115__Incentive_Study_Final_0.pdf) for New York state legislators. Most states
    fail to adequately calculate the actual impact of their tax incentive programs
    on business decisions and net economic growth, according to a Pew Center on the
    States report
    (http://www.pewstates.org/uploadedFiles/PCS_Assets/2012/015_12_RI%20Tax%20Incentives%20Report_EXEC_SUMM_web.pdf),
    but one report (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/jors.12031/abstract) last spring found that manufacturing tax
    credits in 20 different states had approximately zero effect (http://www.alternet.org/corporate-accountability-and-workplace/corporate-extortion-states-are-giving-billions-corporations) on
    growth in the targeted industries.