Michael Brown’s Juvenile Record Contains No Top Felonies
The slain Ferguson, Missouri teenager’s history should be irrelevant at this point but the court of public opinion demanded to see if Michael Brown had any prior convictions. The St. Louis-Dispatch went to court to the force the release of the victim’s records, if any existed at all. Charles C. Johnson, a conservative journalist with an online news site, also filed a request.
[su_center_ad]A Missouri court official said on Wednesday that the victim was never convicted of a serious A-level or B-level felony as a juvenile and was not facing any charges at the time of his death, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.
According to Cynthia Harcourt, a lawyer for St. Louis County Juvenile Officer Kip Seeley, there were no convictions or active cases for the most serious types of felonies.
Class A felonies include second-degree murder and first-degree robbery; the penalties in adult court range from 10 years in prison to death. Class B felonies include voluntary manslaughter, second-degree robbery and first-degree burglary, with a maximum penalty of five to 15 years.
It is not known whether Brown had ever been accused of lesser offenses; any record of those would be part of a confidential family court file. In a hearing before St. Louis County Circuit Court Judge Ellen Levy Siwak, Joseph E. Martineau of Lewis Rice & Fingersh, attorney for the Post-Dispatch, acknowledged in the hearing that most juvenile court records are confidential under Missouri law.
But he argued that the primary reason to keep them confidential — to protect a child from entering adulthood with the stigma of a criminal record — expired with Brown’s death. He said Siwak had the discretion to open the files, and said there was heavy public interest in the details of Brown’s life. Harcourt derided the claim as pure media curiosity that should not lead the judge to open any confidential records. The judge took the issue under advisement.
You see how the Dispatch slipped, “it is unknown whether Brown had been accused of lesser offenses” in there? There must be something. Dig media, dig deeper. The victim’s character has not been assassinated enough, apparently. Now, I’m sure the Dispatch and Charles Johnson will want to vet Darren Wilson’s history, since he was the one who pulled the trigger approximately 11 times. Wilson failed to file an incident report, which is a requirement.
This is what Charles Johnson claimed on August 19th.
Confirmed earlier report that #MichaelBrown had juvenile arrest record involving second degree murder… Working on getting report #Ferguson
— Charles C. Johnson (@ChuckCJohnson) August 18, 2014
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NW10 September 3rd, 2014 at 3:59 pm
https://twitter.com/MiltShook/status/507237070671060993
R.J. Carter September 3rd, 2014 at 4:28 pm
It’s only relevant if its necessary for one lawyer to impeach his character. If the prosecution tries to say “Client A is an angel and an outstanding citizen,” then it’s permissible for the defense to say “Well, no he wasn’t and here’s why.” It can only be introduced in a reactionary measure.
M D Reese September 3rd, 2014 at 6:16 pm
Bottom line though is that has no bearing on why an un-armed man was murdered by a cop.
whatthe46 September 3rd, 2014 at 8:42 pm
thank you.
Doug Dittmer September 4th, 2014 at 1:51 am
I know you’re learning impaired so here’s this from Reuters:
FERGUSON Mo. (Reuters) – The police officer involved in the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teenager last weekend in Ferguson, Missouri, an incident that has sparked repeated and sometimes violent racially charged protests, was injured in the encounter and treated for a facial injury, the city’s chief of police said on Wednesday.
Police Chief Thomas Jackson told a news conference on Wednesday the officer was treated in hospital for swelling on the side of his face.
M D Reese September 4th, 2014 at 6:35 pm
You bet. It drives me crazy how they try to justify murder after the fact. I’ll bet a lot of folks got taken in by this as well:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/43806_Right_Wing_Radio_Host_Larry_Elder_Posts_Fake_Photo_of_Injured_Darren_Wilson
Doug Dittmer September 3rd, 2014 at 8:53 pm
He had assaulted the cop and tried to get his gun. The cop had no way of knowing whether he was armed or not and it really didn’t matter. The kid was aggressive and had committed theft and felonious assault and he wasn’t following the cop’s orders to get down.
whatthe46 September 4th, 2014 at 12:18 am
STFU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doug Dittmer September 4th, 2014 at 12:35 am
Yeah, real intelligent of you. Not much critical thinking going on in your head. Oliver Wendell Holmes was right when he said “The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye. The more light you shine on it, the more it will contract “
whatthe46 September 4th, 2014 at 1:02 am
“Oliver Wendell Holmes was right when he said “The mind of a bigot is like the pupil of the eye. The more light you shine on it, the more it will contract “” he was talking about you idiot… LOL
M D Reese September 4th, 2014 at 6:33 pm
You’re pulling this stuff out of your butt. The evidence does not support your narrative.
Doug Dittmer September 4th, 2014 at 7:54 pm
The evidence is three witness statements in addition to the cop’s swollen face . Are you just ignorant of the facts or are you just writing your own narrative? The witness accounts are posted in several videos in case you didn’t hear them.
whatthe46 September 3rd, 2014 at 8:42 pm
its irrelavant if the person who killed the other didn’t know anything about the other person. he knew nothing about the store incident. he knew nothing about this kid what-so-ever. he didn’t know he was on his way to college. the same reason why women who accuse someone of raping them, history isn’t allowed as a defense to the defendant. their history has nothing to do with what happened to her. he was walking down the street, you can’t determine by that, that he has a history of anything to justify your shooting him. he was pre-judged, accosted, judged, convicted and sentenced to death in a moments time.
Doug Dittmer September 3rd, 2014 at 7:19 pm
So true. However, robbing a store, and punching a cop in the face and grabbing for his gun is a felony, and that is relevant to what happened.
tiredoftea September 3rd, 2014 at 7:48 pm
No, that is nonsense. But, you just go ahead and keep on blaming the victim.
Doug Dittmer September 3rd, 2014 at 7:59 pm
And you keep re-writing the facts to fit your own narrative. There are 3 witnesses (all young black men and women) who have been interviewed and saw Brown reaching through the squad car window in a physical “tussle” with the cop. I’ll take their word over your fantasy.
tiredoftea September 3rd, 2014 at 8:12 pm
Sorry, but so called reporting from fringe right wing media is writing its own “facts” All of which blame the victim and exonerate his murderer.
Doug Dittmer September 3rd, 2014 at 8:51 pm
I’m not a right winger. Not even a conservative. I judge on people’s behavior, not their race or social class. Black, white, or green, it doesn’t matter. The kid went rogue for whatever reason. He was no “gentle giant” and we have his bullying on video tape. Stop making excuses for him. Just because he was a black kid doesn’t make him a victim. According to some witnesses he was taunting the cop as he turned toward him “What are you gonna do? Shoot me?” Since he had just punched the cop, I probably would have done the same thing the cop did.
whatthe46 September 3rd, 2014 at 9:02 pm
so, now you’ve already convicted the dead. death penalty issued case close. he deserved it. white man shot at police officers and firemen with an AK and they managed to calmly arrest him. white guy was yielding a knife at officers and they managed to calmly arrest him. black kid walking in the street and he’s shot 6 times while unarmed. this makes him a victim!!!! “since he had just punched a cop” my ASS!
Doug Dittmer September 3rd, 2014 at 9:28 pm
Black kid was just walking the street??? LOLOLOL. He had just robbed a store, pushed the clerk around and a call had been placed to 911 by another customer in the store. The kid assaulted the cop, grabbed for his gun and the gun discharged in the vehicle. The kid took off running and refused to give up. Cop warned him and started shooting. Kid turned and moved toward the cop, NOT with his hands in the air. This was a statement by two witnesses. His partner in crime also made that statement. The kid was reaching down toward his waist when he took the bullet in the head. That was seen by his own partner. As much as you want to vindicate the kid, he had just committed two felonies and was not in compliance with the officer. So if anyone is jumping to conclusions here, that would be you. You have already determined he’s just some poor innocent black kid and the cop is wrong. And we know this because the cop was white.
whatthe46 September 4th, 2014 at 12:14 am
if that lie helps you sleep at night, then so be it. stupid people like you, will never learn. when someone is ignorant, it can be suggestive of a compliment because at least you’re open to education, if you are wiling to accept it. in your case you choose to remain ignorant regardless of the evidence. if there was a video tape of the entire incident, you’d still support his actions. “You have already determined he’s just some poor innocent black kid and the cop is wrong. And we know this because the cop was white.” we know this because he’s DEAD!!!! we know he was an innocent kid because he was unarmed with his hands raised. you know what, “F” you to the umpth degree. stay ignorant. and i’m still being nice.
Doug Dittmer September 4th, 2014 at 12:29 am
Let me repeat it for you again. You can view the interview with witnesses on CNN’s website. They were asked specifically if the kid had his hands raised and the answer from the witnesses is that he DID NOT have his hands raised.
Doug Dittmer September 3rd, 2014 at 9:34 pm
Yeah, that’s the way it works. A cop is there to enforce laws, arrest criminals and shoot to kill if the criminal presents a danger to the cop or anyone else. We live in one of the most violent countries on the planet and our cops risk their life every day dealing with nut jobs. When you assault a cop, you can expect to get shot dead. Anyone who thinks they can beat on a cop and live to talk about it is sociopath or major stupid.
whatthe46 September 4th, 2014 at 12:08 am
“When you assault a cop, you can expect to get shot dead.” so, shooting at a cop with an AK isn’t considered an assault. walking down the street and getting gunned down with 2 bullets to the head is warrant of a death sentence, especially when there’s no evidence of an assault on the cop? if this kid were white and it happened the same damn way (which duh it wouldn’t) i would be upset all the same. you are a looser! and that’s a kind way of putting it, because you have no idea what i’d love to say to you and the level of vulgarity that i would have pleasure spewing at your ignorant ass.
Doug Dittmer September 4th, 2014 at 12:26 am
You really should read up on things before you run at the mouth. Your ignorance of the topic is really very apparent. The cop was taken to the hospital where he was treated for injuries to his face. There is some dispute over the extent of the injuries but no dispute that he was struck. Secondly, three witnesses saw the altercation with the cop. So unless you have evidence to the contrary, I’d say you are probably full of it.
whatthe46 September 4th, 2014 at 1:01 am
again, even the chief said that he knew nothing of this murdering cop being taken to the hospital, what part of that does not compute? actually, don’t answer that, you don’t care.
tiredoftea September 3rd, 2014 at 9:10 pm
Oh, so you’re a vigilante who approves of street murder by cop and not a right winger? Never heard of innocent until proven guilty and due process of law?
Anomaly 100 September 3rd, 2014 at 8:27 pm
There are a ton of others who say otherwise. IF only Darren Wilson had filled out an incident report perhaps we’d be enlightened.
Doug Dittmer September 3rd, 2014 at 8:46 pm
The officer did give a report to his superiors. Just because you haven’t read it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. That is part of the investigation and will probably be evidence present to the Grand Jury. Cops don’t report to reporters, just in case you weren’t aware of that.
whatthe46 September 3rd, 2014 at 8:58 pm
even the “chief” said there was no report written.
whatthe46 September 4th, 2014 at 12:03 am
doug doesn’t realize that because wilson didn’t fill out a report after the incident, that it means he (wilson) had an opportunity to fabricate a story whey he finally decides to do so. which means he (wilson), in my opinion, has a serious creditability issue. but, i’m sure in doug’s mind the “cigar” is gravely more of importance, even though wilson knew nothing of it.
whatthe46 September 3rd, 2014 at 8:38 pm
liar! and i think you must have pressed the mute button on your t.v. off and on hearing the words that you only wanted to hear.
Doug Dittmer September 3rd, 2014 at 8:46 pm
You can see those interviews just as I did. Two of them were still posted on CNN website last week.
whatthe46 September 3rd, 2014 at 8:56 pm
respond to my other post. and you’re still a liar.
whatthe46 September 3rd, 2014 at 8:36 pm
first of all, he didn’t rob a store. secondly where’s the evidence he punched a cop? there’s none to speak of. i said it before and maybe you weren’t around to read it, but if someone breaks your eye socket, you’re in total pain and there’s no way you would be capable of shooting at anyone let alone hit your target at 35 feet away landing two perfect shots to the head. i wear contacts and have had an eyelash in my eye, its a painful irritant and i can’t do anything without constantly blinking and must rush to remove it. even the “chief” said he knew nothing about any injuries to the murdering cop and this was at his press conference a couple of days later.
Doug Dittmer September 4th, 2014 at 7:17 am
Ummm. Just to recap for you, cops received a 811 call about the theft, we have video tape of him doing it, and we have the confession of his partner. So you’re wrong about that. Secondly, we have witnesses who saw him in a physical confrontation with the cop and heard the gunshot in the vehicle. And then there is the police chief reporting that the cop was seen at the hospital and treated for a swollen face. The chief did not say that the eye socket was broken, that was a rumor that was picked up by internet trolls and scandal rags- which is apparently the source of your facts. http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2014/08/14/michael-brown-ferguson-missouri-timeline/14051827/
greenfloyd September 4th, 2014 at 4:06 am
I think you getting too far out front based on what we actually know at this point. What if Brown was acting in self-defense? Perhaps there was already bad-blood between Wilson and Brown? Something to do with drugs or cannabis in both their pasts?
Obewon September 3rd, 2014 at 4:00 pm
GOP TV’s court of public opinion won’t likely report these facts, or mention Darren Wilson’s troubled history, and that he shot an unarmed teenage jaywalker 6+ times.
raincheck September 3rd, 2014 at 4:57 pm
He was only shot 6 times …. because the other 5 bullets missed
whatthe46 September 3rd, 2014 at 8:32 pm
what excuse would have been made if the other bullets hit a child playing nearby? collateral damage? surely he had to make certain at least 1 of his bullets killed this common criminal. can’t let black jay walkers get away in this country. its in the police manual.
tiredoftea September 3rd, 2014 at 6:15 pm
The only relevant record to examine is Officer Wilson’s. Has anyone seen it? Are the right’s apologist’s going after it as diligently as they are the late Mr. Brown’s?
greenfloyd September 4th, 2014 at 3:40 am
As I recall there was a report that his previous job was at a PD that has since been shut down and had to be restaffed, and that he “won” some kind of award for a “drug bust” earlier this year.
austinandjusin September 3rd, 2014 at 6:49 pm
Black victim? Find something or call him something to make it seem as if his death was his own fault.
jasperjava September 3rd, 2014 at 6:53 pm
As far as the far-Right is concerned, jaywalking while Black is a class-A felony comparable to first-degree murder, punishable by death through summary execution by racist police.
And the worst part is that they see nothing wrong with that. On the contrary, their lust for African-American blood in the streets is insatiable. The American conservative movement is a genocidal hate group.
whatthe46 September 3rd, 2014 at 8:30 pm
Franklyn Reyes, 18. here’s his story… he killed a 4 y/o after fleeing from police when he stole his parents car and driving without a license last year. in july of this year, he was again arrested for looting a dead woman’s apartment. this time injuring a police officer while bolting from a weekend traffic stop, authorities said. he made an illegal turn Sunday evening and refused to put the SUV in park when an officer asked him to, police said. One officer had reached through a passenger-side window to try to put the vehicle in park when Reyes sped off, and the officer was dragged about a block. Police said Reyes was arrested after he ditched the car in a parking garage and hid in the office.
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dragged a cop and still has the right as an American citizen to be tried in a court of law. look at his priors. oh wait, why? did anyone else hear of his crimes prior to this offense? nope.
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The judge overseeing Reyes’ cases had offered the teen a deal where he’d receive a maximum of four years behind bars in Russo’s (4 y/o child) death and the chance to have his case eventually sealed. He faced up 15 years in prison if convicted at trial. It’s unclear if his latest arrest will affect the proposal.
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makes me fk’n sick to my stomach that brown is being treated like a common criminal and this p.o.s. is given all the benefits there’s to offer. if this had been brown, he would have still been in jail awaiting trial as there is no way the judge would have made such an offer. furthermore, we know that if reyes had been michael brown, he’d still be alive.
greenfloyd September 4th, 2014 at 1:53 am
It seems there must be something in Michael Brown’s record. Otherwise why tip-toe around the question with such an oblique answer? I’m not interested in “assassinating” Brown’s character. Although I am interested in knowing what, if any, history Brown had with Ferguson PD, especially Officer Daren Wilson.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 3:27 am
“was not facing any charges at the time of his death, according to the St. Louis Post-Dispatch.”
He wasn’t facing any charges? Assaulting a police officer is a felony and robbery is a felony. How do things like this get posted? If he lived he would be charged with two felonies and be sitting in jail right now.
Obewon September 4th, 2014 at 2:10 pm
All videos of Ferguson PD executioner Darren Wilson display exactly 00.00% evidence that jaywalker Michael Brown assaulted the Klansman before the unarmed teen was killed with his his hands raised after being shot 6-8 times until he was dead.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 2:46 pm
Jaywalking is when you cross the street illegally. They were walking in the middle of the street. That is not what got Michael killed though.
Police are supposed to shoot people who have committed violent felonies when they run away or when they are attacking someone.
There is no question that Michael committing a strong armed robbery. There is no question that Michael attacked the officer and broke his face. I didn’t hear any of the lying witnesses say the cop was hitting himself.
Why are you saying his hands were in the air? The physical evidence proves that Michael was charging the officer. You think the officer shot Michael’s hands above his head 4 times and Michael just kept his hands up? That is unreasonable.
mea_mark September 4th, 2014 at 2:52 pm
Actually, deadly force (shoot someone) … “Use of deadly force” is often granted to police officers when the person or persons in question are believed to be an immediate danger to people around them. from … http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deadly_force
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 3:03 pm
Felons are deemed to be an immediate danger to the people around them.
Fleeing felon rule
“the Fleeing Felon Rule permits the use of force, including deadly force, against an individual who is suspected of a felony and is in clear flight”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fleeing_felon_rule
Obewon September 4th, 2014 at 3:11 pm
Jaywalking isn’t a felony, but summary execution is Murder. The Ferguson Police Chief admitted ‘Jaywalking is why Michael Brown was stopped’ and Darren Wilson never had any knowledge of an ‘alleged robbery at the convenience store.’ You must be beginning to relaize why faux news GOP TV viewers plummeted 1/3 from May, 2013 to May, 2014. Less than 200,000 “Total day FOX News Ages 25-54” viewers remain today.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 3:26 pm
I admit that the Chief said that the cop didn’t know about the felony that Michael just committed at the time he first saw Michael. The first felon the cop was probably aware of was Michael assaulting the him through the window. It has also been reported that the cop did know that Michael had committed a felony before he had do stop the threat, between being attacked in his car and getting out of the car to make the felony arrest. Michael knew that he committed a felony the whole time. That would make him more likely to be violent.
mea_mark September 4th, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Stealing cigars is not felony theft. That is a misdemeanor.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 3:36 pm
Stealing is different than a robbery. But you are correct, stealing is a misdemeanor. Robbery is a felony.
mea_mark September 4th, 2014 at 5:13 pm
So, unless you have proof of a robbery it is just theft? So far the evidence indicates petty theft.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 8:56 pm
Robbery is the crime of taking or attempting to take something of value by force or threat of force or by putting the victim in fear.
mea_mark September 4th, 2014 at 3:13 pm
And if he didn’t commit a felony and was assaulted by the officer first, then gunned down, so he couldn’t testify against the officer, what would your position be?
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 3:18 pm
If Michael didn’t commit a felony and the cop shot him with his hands up the cop should be given the death penalty.
Obewon September 4th, 2014 at 2:57 pm
Why didn’t any store workers report any robbery to police? And nobody said “charging the officer”-except one bimbo friend of Klansman executioner Darren Wilson who called into a radio show. You’re grossly mis/uninformed.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 3:07 pm
I guess there could be a mass conspiracy going on. The government could have created the video that shows Michael violently robbing that store. They could have made up the injuries that the cop had. It’s possible, but I don’t think it’s likely.
mea_mark September 4th, 2014 at 3:16 pm
The clerk shoving Brown is a violent robbery? That is what is on video. That looks like evidence that the clerk assaulted Brown.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 3:34 pm
Are you defending strong armed robbery? The store owner tried to close the door and get his property back. Michael used physical force to hurt(violence) the store owner by pushing him out of the way. Then instead of leaving, he walks towards the store owner like he’s going to murder him. The store owner cowers in fear and then Michael leaves.
mea_mark September 4th, 2014 at 5:09 pm
No, I am looking at the evidence. You see what you want to see. I am looking at the evidence and trying to decide what are some of the possible scenarios that could be happening with the evidence that is presented. One of the things I saw was the clerk being the instigator and aggressor. The clerk made contact with Brown first. Why is uncertain.
whatthe46 September 4th, 2014 at 3:52 pm
even the chief said he knew nothing of injuries on this cop and that was days after the muder in a press conference.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 9:34 pm
So since he had no knowledge of that injuries that mean he knew that Darrin had no injuries? If the chief had no knowledge of Darrin’s injuries, I just think that mean he had no knowledge of Darrin’s injuries. Remember, it’s bad to assume.
Paul September 4th, 2014 at 6:58 pm
“There is no question that Michael attacked the officer and broke his face.”
“broke his face”?? You know that bullshit was debunked, right? The cop suffered no fractures of any kind. You know that, right? …. Right?
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 9:25 pm
Are you referring to the image that Kevin O’Grady put on twitter with the caption, “here is what a broken eye socket looks like”? Because it doesn’t look like this random person said the picture was a pic of the cop. Even if someone lied and said they had a picture of the cops face and it was a fake picture, that doesn’t prove that Darrin didn’t have the same injuries. Have you heard the saying, to assume will make an “ass” out of “u” and “me”? Basically it’s bad to assume.
Now if the police department released a fake picture and claimed it was real then that would be a good reason to think there is a coverup.
mea_mark September 4th, 2014 at 3:02 pm
We don’t know the entire story yet. It could be the officer instigated the assault. If the officer hit Brown with his vehicle (which has been acknowledged by FPD) first than the officer could have been the the one who committed assault first. Brown would not be sitting in jail for assault the officer would be, perhaps that is why Brown was killed. The robbery even if that is what really happened, would not be a felony charge. The clerk instigated the physical confrontation that is seen on video, so if anything it is petty theft.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 3:38 pm
“The clerk instigated the physical confrontation that is seen on video”.
Please explain how the clerk instigated the physical confrontation.
whatthe46 September 4th, 2014 at 3:50 pm
watch the video!
mea_mark September 4th, 2014 at 5:10 pm
Some people see what they want to see, not what is really there.
Ben September 4th, 2014 at 9:01 pm
I see the clerk trying to stop a robber in the video by blocking the door. The robber pushes the clerk out of the way and then walks toward the clerk to intimidate him. The clerk is understandable scared and cowers. Then the robber leaves.