Anti-Gay Baker Cries At Value Voter Summit Because Her Business Closed
[su_right_ad]Melissa Klein’s business couldn’t sustain itself once word got out that she wouldn’t serve gay couples. The free market is a bitch.
In January 2013, Sweet Cakes By Melissa refused service to a lesbian couple looking for a wedding cake. The subsequent fallout included national media attention and a state investigation for anti-gay discrimination — perpetuated by the Kleins’ continued actions, such as baking cakes for an “ex-gay” group.
The couple is now reportedly fighting a $150,000 lawsuit from the state, a reality that made Klein break into tears while discussing her passion for the process of baking wedding cakes during the Values Voter Summit.
“For me personally when I would sit down with them, I just would want to know everything about her wedding,” an emotional Klein told the audience. “I’d want to know about the flowers, her dress, the centerpieces, her colors, the way her hair is going to be. I would even want to talk about ‘where are you going on your honeymoon?'”
Just don’t tell her the honeymoon is on Fire Island or in Provincetown.
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rg9rts September 30th, 2014 at 7:42 am
The free market speaks……scary ain’t it! LOL
Wayout September 30th, 2014 at 11:15 am
This is not the free market. What, there weren’t any gay bakers they could have gone to?
rg9rts September 30th, 2014 at 1:57 pm
You have absolutely no idea of what the free market is. None at all which is the gopee way of understanding things…..free market is put it out there and let the public decide…they chose NOT to patronize the bigot…she reaped what she had sown! LOL
Larry Schmitt September 30th, 2014 at 7:47 am
Just like the Woolworths store that wouldn’t serve blacks at the lunch counter, why in the world would you turn away business? No one to blame but yourself. And the gay people still got their wedding cakes. Like the Connie Francis song says, Who’s Sorry Now?
TheNeedle September 30th, 2014 at 7:55 am
Not that I have any sympathy for these bigots, but a $150,000 lawsuit from the Sate isn’t “the free market.”
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 8:13 am
True. Free market would mean customers would take their business elsewhere.
Wayout September 30th, 2014 at 11:14 am
Exactly. It’s about “forcing” people to do things and that is what liberalism/progressivism is all about. Example: If the Social Security system is so good like the libs tell us, then make it voluntary.
mea_mark September 30th, 2014 at 1:49 pm
It is voluntary, if you don’t like it you can leave and go to another country.
William September 30th, 2014 at 8:08 am
Values summit huh?
Suzanne McFly September 30th, 2014 at 8:14 am
I am shocked, shocked I say, old, white and crusty? I would never of believed it myself unless I seen your pic////////////s
William September 30th, 2014 at 8:22 am
Pretty diverse crowd huh?
Larry Schmitt September 30th, 2014 at 10:07 am
A veritable vanilla rainbow.
Rusty Shackleford September 30th, 2014 at 11:05 am
50 Shades of White.
Suzanne McFly September 30th, 2014 at 2:00 pm
This is the republican constituency, no one should be surprised. This is why we have problems dealing with them, they can’t see past themselves.
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 10:31 am
“old, white and crusty”
Careful, your racism is showing.
Rusty Shackleford September 30th, 2014 at 10:57 am
That’s not racist, cracker.
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 11:50 am
Your comment may be acceptable to the moderators but not to me.
I don’t interact with people who use juvenile, inappropriate name calling.
Rusty Shackleford September 30th, 2014 at 11:53 am
What a shame; I’ll be deprived of more “brilliant” insight from your replies. I’m really broken up over it.
mea_mark September 30th, 2014 at 1:52 pm
No one is making you stay. You are free to leave at any time.
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 3:42 pm
Understood. I’ll stay and simply ignore him.
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 4:03 pm
whatthe46 September 30th, 2014 at 11:51 am
lol
Suzanne McFly September 30th, 2014 at 2:04 pm
You are sooooo right Sky, I hate myself, my family, and most of my friends. I wear black sheets and parade around promoting self hate and the hate for all whiteys, you seen right through my shtick, good job cracker.
Anomaly 100 September 30th, 2014 at 4:11 pm
Lulz.
Anomaly 100 September 30th, 2014 at 4:11 pm
You’re GOP is showing.
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 7:33 pm
Thank you.
Dwendt44 September 30th, 2014 at 1:21 pm
You mean old and white?
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 8:11 am
“she wouldn’t serve gay couples” – no, I’m sure she’d serve gay customers but would make a cake for a gay wedding, big difference.
William September 30th, 2014 at 8:26 am
no, I’m sure she’d serve gay customers but wouldn’t make a cake for a gay wedding,
Um… you do understand that her business was making wedding cakes right?
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 8:47 am
“I’m sure she’d serve gay customers but wouldn’t make a cake for a gay wedding” = Agreed
“Um… you do understand that her business was making wedding cakes right?” No, they did more than make wedding cakes
William September 30th, 2014 at 8:51 am
Oh well now you make complete sense.
“Hi may I help you?”
Yes I’d like to buy a cake
Ok, well if you’re gay I can sell you a cake, but if you use that cake for a gay wedding then I can’t.
Please sign this agreement that you won’t use this pasty to celebrate gay unions of any kind.
Thank you and please come again.
Yup makes sense.
Larry Schmitt September 30th, 2014 at 10:08 am
And please enjoy yourself while you burn in hell.
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 10:30 am
“well now you make complete sense”
Huh? Do you understand I didn’t work at that cake shop but if I did I would have no problem making a cake for a gay wedding?
jasperjava September 30th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
It’s weird how you somehow think that the world revolves around you. The other day you said that if you were the Ferguson chief of police, you wouldn’t apologize to Michael Brown’s parents. Then you said that you wouldn’t apologize because you, yourself, you’re not personally involved in the shooting.
Now you’re saying that if YOU worked in that cake shop, you would have no problem baking a wedding cake for a same-sex couple. No matter what the store owner thinks?
You may want to get yourself checked out for cognitive problems. You may be a case of clinical narcissistic disorder.
I knew conservatives were self-centered, but this takes the, uh, cake.
jasperjava September 30th, 2014 at 9:25 am
Let’s keep score.
Racist
Sexist
Ageist
Homophobic
Yup, typical conservative.
jasperjava September 30th, 2014 at 9:27 am
Because baking a cake for a same-sex wedding is wrong, somehow.
Here’s a hint: discrimination is wrong.
Wayout September 30th, 2014 at 11:11 am
She should have baked them a cake – the worst cake she could have ever baked. And then the lawsuit would have been about her baking them a bad cake because they were gay.
whatthe46 September 30th, 2014 at 11:49 am
it still would have backfired, she’s ignorant and the fact that you would suggest something so hateful and disgusting, means you’re floating in the same boat.
Wayout September 30th, 2014 at 12:29 pm
The activists don’t let anything get in THEIR way, but if the other side were to do something to make their point then that’s downright nasty and wrong. Hey, the gay couple could have gone to another bake shop and they didn’t, why not?
Dwendt44 September 30th, 2014 at 1:20 pm
Another bake shop? How close by is that ‘other’ bake shop? How many miles do you have to drive to find a ‘gay friendly’ bakery?
What if she has the reputation of being the ‘best’, does that mean that gay couples have to settle for second best?
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 8:12 am
“anti-gay” – no, pro-religious beliefs
William September 30th, 2014 at 8:16 am
no, pro-religious beliefs
Because gay weddings are mentioned where in the Bible?
So lets review the “conservative” mantra shall we?
Selling guns to crazy people at gun shows without background checks. Good
Selling a f*cking pastry to a couple that just wants to be happy. BAD
Well now I guess she can just pray away the bankruptcy and lawsuit eh?
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 8:18 am
If a gay person entered her store and wanted to purchase a pastry, I’m quite certain he wouldn’t have been turned away.
William September 30th, 2014 at 8:21 am
“If a gay person entered her store and wanted to purchase a pastry, I’m quite certain they wouldn’t have been turned away”
Did you even read the article?
In January 2013, Sweet Cakes By Melissa refused service to a lesbian couple looking for a wedding cake
See? Reading is fun.
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 8:48 am
You need to read more.
They would have sold birthday cakes to a gay person.
Rusty Shackleford September 30th, 2014 at 10:44 am
Hey guess what; those aren’t mutually exclusive! If your religious beliefs are anti-gay and you support them, so are you! Congratulations! You can be homophobic AND pious!
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 10:52 am
She has religious views, you may consider some of those views to be anti-gay.
I, Skydog2, do not hold the same views as the baker and would have no problem making a cake for a gay wedding (if I knew how to make a cake).
Rusty Shackleford September 30th, 2014 at 10:57 am
I’d really like to hear your justification for how believing gay people do not deserve the same rights as you is somehow NOT “anti-gay.”
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 8:15 am
“The free market is a bitch” – no, free market means customers would take their business elsewhere, they shut down because of a lawsuit from the State.
Carla Akins September 30th, 2014 at 8:39 am
Once a business decides to advertise its services to the public at large, it gives up the prerogative to pick and choose which customers to serve – even when that commercial service involves some form of speech or expression or violates their personal beliefs.
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 8:43 am
Under current law, you’re correct. But let’s not pretend that’s free market.
Carla Akins September 30th, 2014 at 8:46 am
“Free Market” is an economic philosophy, not a law. Even in a free market there has to be rules.
Skydog2 September 30th, 2014 at 8:50 am
Ok.
I would have preferred to the business close / suffer because customers decided to take their business elsewhere rather than the Sate suing them.
Carla Akins September 30th, 2014 at 12:31 pm
It would be great if it always worked that way but too often it doesn’t. If it did, we wouldn’t have needed Loving vs VA. And when it does work, it does so slowly damaging lives along the way.
Wayout September 30th, 2014 at 11:06 am
It’s all an attempt to force people to accept something that isn’t normal as normal. Two men or two women married is a sham, totally ridiculous. Even those decadent Romans as twisted as they were never thought of such a thing.
tracey marie September 30th, 2014 at 11:37 am
we think you and your kind are not normal, being willfully ignorant and bigoted are not virtues
fahvel September 30th, 2014 at 1:02 pm
perfect!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Carla Akins September 30th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
You can think so, but that doesn’t make it correct.
jasperjava September 30th, 2014 at 3:28 pm
Because YOU get to decide for others what’s “normal” or not.
And then you right-wing freaks go onto shrieking fits about “tyranny”.
William September 30th, 2014 at 5:26 pm
“Two men or two women married is a sham”
‘Cuz real ‘Muricans are all about “traditional marriage” just like Rush Limbaugh and Newt Gingrich. The REAL bastions of wholesome traditional marriage.
whatthe46 September 30th, 2014 at 7:21 pm
thank you.
Dwendt44 October 1st, 2014 at 12:55 am
marriage was around a long time before some ancient goat herders who didn’t bath, couldn’t read or write and wiped their butts with their bare hands had scribes write down some questionable babbling s borrowed from other older religions.
Rusty Shackleford September 30th, 2014 at 10:42 am
Okay, violating the terms of the business license you agreed upon with the state is a bitch.
JohnVHedtke September 30th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
They did. One of the things she complained about is that other wedding vendors refused to send business in her direction (doubtless because they didn’t want to do business with her). So there was loss of business, though how much is unclear. Enough that closing the storefront seemed like a good idea, apparently, given that she’d originally claimed that there was plenty of business from people who supported her POV.
Suzanne McFly September 30th, 2014 at 8:15 am
She can take her views and shove them up her muffin.
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 9:35 am
Being sued for $150,000 by the state isn’t the same thing as “the free market is a bitch.”
JimmyPete September 30th, 2014 at 10:13 am
she didn’t say it was the law suit that drove her out of business it was the free market decision of customers who no longer felt like doing business with her, and I really question the number 150K , I have some experience in this field and the fines are usually compromised way down, if at all.
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 10:20 am
She didn’t say it was the lack of customers either. As it turns out, we’re both wrong — the original article at HuffPo has issued a clarification at the end of the article:
They’re still operating out of their kitchen, taking orders online.
mea_mark September 30th, 2014 at 10:31 am
Sure sounds like their business dropped like a rock and it was time to cut losses and shrink the business. If you can operate out of a home kitchen you aren’t doing much business.
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 10:40 am
Loss of business is just an assumption that’s never been stated in any version of the articles. We don’t know how many employees she had, or if it was just the family. Operating out of a kitchen takes the “public door” off of the business. All the articles do say is that she did it by choice rather than violate her convictions.
Bunya September 30th, 2014 at 3:38 pm
Yeah well, a $150,000 lawsuit would certainly have an impact on my choice. But then again, I wouldn’t have to worry about violating my convictions because I’m not an intolerant bigot who likes to launder her hatred through her god.
whatthe46 September 30th, 2014 at 11:44 am
aren’t there regulations in place about operating out of your home kitchen when serving the “public” be it online or not in her state?
mountain_me October 2nd, 2014 at 6:26 pm
Yes, there are laws against it, and I’ll bet she is doing it illegally. Welcome to more fines. A bigot and a bimbo. I guess these sorts feel that the laws of this country just don’t apply to them.
Dwendt44 September 30th, 2014 at 1:13 pm
you won’t think so. Depending on how large her kitchen is, she could do three or four cakes a day-assuming a single oven.
tiredoftea September 30th, 2014 at 11:58 am
Bigotry finds a way.
labman57 September 30th, 2014 at 9:43 am
Another sanctimonious, intolerance-promoting bigot engages in a self-pity party as she attempts to play the role of the poor, maligned victim.
Denise September 30th, 2014 at 9:44 am
She has nobody to blame but herself. She allowed her business to close over one damn cake! Hell, she could have made the cake, and donated the income earned from it to charity. How many homosexuals seek out her business anyway?
These businesses have got to make a decision: which is more important, earning a living, or your fake religious convictions? She choose her fake religious convinctions, now she is boo-hooing to a crowd that doesn’t give a damn about her business closing over one damn cake! Why didn’t she just shift gears when she saw her profits declining? Apparently her customers boycotted her business. She lost thousands of customers over one damn cake! That’s what I call poor decision making.
I don’t take sides in this homosexuality business. What two consenting adults do in their beds is none of my business. There are far worse sins, which this idiot failed to realize. God only knows how many people walked into her business that commit adultery, raoe, incest, murder, and she served them.
If she applied the same rules to them as she does gay people, her bakery would have closed the same day. Which makes her a hypocrite, they all are, who bash gay people. Every single one of them sins in some way, we all do! Now. let her go on food stamps, receive public assistance, at taxpayer expense, ovet her poor decision making!
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 9:54 am
“Apparently her customers boycotted her business. She lost thousands of customers over one damn cake! That’s what I call poor decision making.”
She didn’t lost “thousands of customers over one damn cake.” She got sued into oblivion — at taxpayer expense. If she had “fake religious convictions” then she would have opted for the path of situational ethics and baked “just one damn cake.” Apparently her convictions were a little stronger than that.
jasperjava September 30th, 2014 at 11:22 am
She probably lost customers too. I’d sure take my business elsewhere when I find out the owners are right-wingers and/or bigots.
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 11:24 am
She may have. She may also have gained new customers out of support. We don’t know, we can only guess.
tracey marie September 30th, 2014 at 11:36 am
she obviously lost more then she gained, she is out of business…good!
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 11:54 am
Except that she’s not. She still retains the business — it just operates out of her kitchen and off the web, rather than from out of a storefront. It’s possible she may have come out ahead after removing the overhead of rent.
tracey marie September 30th, 2014 at 11:58 am
she lost her business, now she is a whiner baking in her home. Enough people were disgusted that she could not retain her original business. That is why she is whining
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 12:16 pm
Looks like a business to me: http://www.sweetcakesweb.com/
fahvel September 30th, 2014 at 12:59 pm
those are not convictions – those are pure ignorance and prejudice
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 1:08 pm
Tomayto, Tomahto.
Dwendt44 September 30th, 2014 at 12:43 pm
“How many homosexuals seek out her business anyway?”
Hard to say. Had she not poked her nose into everybody’s business beyond make her cakes, she’d likely never know. It’s a guess, but a gay couple came in to order a cake and she turned them away. Had only one of the pair entered and order a cake, and kept their business to themselves, she would not know about the details.
Why does she care about the brides hair, the dress color, etc.?
JimmyPete September 30th, 2014 at 10:10 am
I honestly think that if she has gone out of business, the State should back off the law suit, but boo-hoo isn’t this the vagaries of capitalism. People don’t want your product because of your own bigotry. That’s their choice, I once had a big sports order for a Little League team I walked in our local Mom and Pop shop and when I was shopping noticed the owner had Rush on real loud, so I politely excused myself , and went elsewhere. There’s a carwash in town that I used to frequent, guy put up a Tea Party Flag, well my weekly car wash went away. I love the free market.
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 10:21 am
I’d like to know what footing the State has for their suit, since ‘sexual orientation’ isn’t a protected class.
Rusty Shackleford September 30th, 2014 at 10:40 am
In Oregon it is.
R.J. Carter September 30th, 2014 at 11:09 am
Well, well, well. You go, Oregon!
Dwendt44 September 30th, 2014 at 1:10 pm
Technically, she is still in business. The law suit itself hasn’t cost her anything, The lawyer fees, on the other hand, may not cost her either. There are right wing religious advocacy groups that take these cases for free.
Wayout September 30th, 2014 at 11:00 am
“The free market is a bitch”. No, this case has nothing to do with the free market, but it deals with forcing people to participate in an activity that they have real religious objections too.
The baker in question made a mistake though. She should have made them a cake, a cake so bad that not even the cockroaches or ants would have wanted to eaten it!
Rusty Shackleford September 30th, 2014 at 11:02 am
No one forced her to open a public accommodation. She could have opened a private cake club for heterosexuals and handed out memberships at her church, and no one would care. But if you tell the state that you intend to serve the public, SURPRISE: they actually expect you to do so.
tracey marie September 30th, 2014 at 11:34 am
we are not a theocracy, if you want to live in a country that revolves around a myth you will have to move. See ya, buh by, arrivaderci.
Blondie Blue September 30th, 2014 at 1:28 pm
AMEN!!
tiredoftea September 30th, 2014 at 11:49 am
Wrong, this is the perfect example of her market voting with their money and telling her that her stupidity is not welcome.
fahvel September 30th, 2014 at 12:55 pm
whaoo the xian with a soul full of merde and a heart that is of stone – bless you you low life.
FieryLocks October 1st, 2014 at 12:22 am
You are a cockroach.
mrbigstuff September 30th, 2014 at 11:20 am
Why didn’t the RNC buy cakes from her like they do books and give out to prove that she had lots of bigott support.
tiredoftea September 30th, 2014 at 12:02 pm
She finds minor celebrity at the only place that applauds her bigotry, the laughingly named “Values Voter” Summit.
whatthe46 September 30th, 2014 at 7:17 pm
because they “value” hatred and bigotry and racism.
tiredoftea September 30th, 2014 at 7:22 pm
Celebrated is more like it.