Iraq Pilots Mistakenly Drop Supplies, Not Bombs On ISIS
This is the military in Iraq we spent millions of dollars training.
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Members of Islamic State recently received an unexpected surprise from the Iraqi military’s inexperienced pilots: an airdrop of food, water and ammunition.
A senior security official told NBC News on Tuesday that an investigation has been launched into how supplies meant for Iraqi soldiers fighting the terrorist group were dropped at the wrong location in Anbar province.
“Those soldiers were in deadly need of these supplies, but because of the wrong plans of the commanders in the Iraqi army and lack of experience of the pilots, we in a way or another helped [Islamic State] fighters to kill our soldiers,” said Hakim Al-Zamili, a Sadrist lawmaker in the Iraqi parliament, NBC reported…
A brigadier-general in Iraq’s Defense Ministry, who spoke on condition of anonymity, confirmed the botched military operation, NBC reported. The incident is said to have occurred Sept. 19.[su_csky_ad]
fancypants October 1st, 2014 at 7:56 am
lets say Iraq is a mistake and call it a day
fahvel October 1st, 2014 at 10:06 am
call it a day when Obama and Hollande and the other mini leaders get the hell out of where they don’t belong.
granpa.usthai October 1st, 2014 at 10:31 am
Why not call it an illegal invasion and go after the war criminals?
fancypants October 1st, 2014 at 11:02 pm
If dennis Kucinich were here ? im more then sure he would say ” been there & tried to do that “
Skydog2 October 1st, 2014 at 8:20 am
A recent “NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Annenberg poll finds that, despite President Barack Obama’s promises to the contrary, 72% of Americans believe the United States will end up using combat troops in the war against ISIS”
If the poll were taken today, that % would be even higher.
People just don’t trust / believe this president.
Budda October 1st, 2014 at 8:51 am
Not “people” just some people…like RWNJs
Skydog2 October 1st, 2014 at 10:19 am
The 72% includes democrats and republicans.
arc99 October 1st, 2014 at 11:11 am
I cannot find any crosstabs for this poll. So what numbers are you looking at which provides the party affiliation breakdown of that 72%? Please share them.
Skydog2 October 1st, 2014 at 1:18 pm
Just an assumption as neither party comprises 72% of the population.
jasperjava October 1st, 2014 at 9:02 am
It’s the Republicans who have been pushing for “boots on the ground”. So a lot of the 70% are the same gullible, easily misled conservatives who supported Dubya’s disastrous adventure.
William October 1st, 2014 at 9:11 am
People just don’t trust / believe this president.
Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha,Ha.
OldLefty October 1st, 2014 at 9:16 am
People are usually wrong too;
Plus they don’t believe ANYBODY anymore.
That has been the greatest success of the GOP;
In 93, Wall Street Journal published the results of a poll and focus groups they had
conducted on the Clinton plan: titled “Many Don’t Realize It’s Clinton
Plan They Like,”
When various health care options were read to them without identifying their sponsors, 76 percent said the Clinton plan had either “a great deal of appeal” or “some appeal,” making it more popular than any of the competing proposals.
Next question:
What do you think of the Clinton plan?
74% Don’t like it.
Why don’t you like the Clinton
Plan?
52% Don’t know
30% You will be arrested if you go to your own doctor
Which was not true.
Polling data show that right after Sept. 11, 2001, when Americans were asked open-ended questions about who was behind the attacks, only 3 percent mentioned Iraq or Hussein. But by January of this year, attitudes had been transformed. In a Knight Ridder poll, 44 percent of Americans reported that either “most” or “some” of the Sept. 11 hijackers were Iraqi citizens. The answer is zero.
In 2003, 70% supported the war on Iraq.
In 2008, 75% said it was a mistake.
“To date, most
Americans have been personally unaffected by the new health care law,”
said CNN Polling Director Keating Holland.From Kaiser; most Americans
continue to report no personal experience with the law to date. Add that
to; Most people get info about the ACA from their least trusted sources.
http://miamiherald.typepad.com/.a/6a00d83451b26169e2019aff4d1b37970d-pi
fahvel October 1st, 2014 at 10:04 am
hey “southpaw” (is that a correct word?) why bother responding to ignorance?
OldLefty October 1st, 2014 at 10:35 am
Because I think when you more deeply into polls you often find they say something very different than the headline.
The reason I think the Clinton, healthcare poll is so important is that I think the fact that so many people were so misinformed should have been the big story, (because we see it repeated with the ACA), … but that reflects poorly on the media.
Skydog2 October 1st, 2014 at 10:18 am
Why are you babbling about Clinton and the health care law?
The 72% includes democrats and republicans.
OldLefty October 1st, 2014 at 10:31 am
The point is that the polls show that the American people are often wrong, are ill informed and usually change their minds.
Skydog2 October 1st, 2014 at 10:38 am
Huh? Polls show polls are wrong?
I understand polls are not 100% accurate but 72% is a pretty high %.
OldLefty October 1st, 2014 at 10:48 am
Polls show the people are often wrong.
As in; “44 percent of Americans reported that either “most” or “some” of the Sept. 11 hijackers were Iraqi citizens.”
They were wrong, and many based their approval/disapproval on that.
As in; 30% You will be arrested if you go to your own doctor.
They were wrong, and many based their approval/disapproval on that.
As in;the most recent Kaiser poll;
The July poll finds that fewer than four in ten Americans (37 percent) are aware that people who got new health insurance under the ACA had a choice between private health plans, while about a quarter (26 percent) think the newly insured were enrolled in a single government plan.
They were wrong, and many based their approval/disapproval on that.
They know even less about what will happen in the Middle East.
arc99 October 1st, 2014 at 11:07 am
we all know that if the President does not launch a ground war in Syria, staying true to his word, the right wing noise machine will simply switch gears and condemn the “weak”, “indecisive” President for not taking the necessary steps to defend America.
and uh, oh yeah BENGHAZI!!!!!!
after almost 6 years of this damned if he does, damned if he does not sh*t, I don’t really give a flying f*ck what they think.
OldLefty October 1st, 2014 at 11:20 am
I agree.
They said the same things about Eisenhower, but not on 24/7 TV;
A Democratic Advisory Council committee
headed by Acheson called Eisenhower’s foreign policy ‘weak,
vacillating, and tardy.’ But Eisenhower kept his powder dry,
confident that force was not the only way to show strength. ‘I’ll tell you what
leadership is,’ he told his speechwriter. ‘It’s persuasion — and conciliation
— and education — and patience. It’s long, slow, tough work. That’s the only
kind of leadership I know — or believe in — or will practice.”
Columnists Joseph and Stewart Alsop were warning that weak and irresolute
U.S. leaders would open the door for our adversaries — in Europe, China, Korea
and Vietnam.
“The future of Asia may well be at stake”
[his policies] “could fatally weaken the Western alliance.”
He is “misinformed” or “consciously misleading the nation” about the
“flaccid” U.S. shortfall
His generals had been “hoodwinked by the bureaucracy
They always confuse careless belligerency with decisiveness.
Skydog2 October 1st, 2014 at 1:23 pm
He won’t be criticized if his plan accomplishes the mission.
mynameisjohn October 1st, 2014 at 11:36 pm
Do you live in the effing real world? If President Obama’s plan does accomplish the mission (mind you, I don’t believe it will), Republicans and/or the hacks on Fox/MSNBC will seize on absolutely anything they can, real or imagined, in attempt to smear him. Barring that, they will try and claim sole credit. Republicans are, as far as the one’s that work on Capitol Hill, opposed to letting him have any victory at all, whatsoever, period. He could cure AIDS, cancer, ebola, and the common cold tomorrow and they would either blame him for not doing it sooner, or claim it was part of a plan to expand the size of the government, or some such shite.
Spirit of America October 13th, 2014 at 3:27 am
I agree, many Americans are either mis- or un- informed and they do indeed base opinions/positions on that.
I lay the blame initially on the news outlets. It is soooooo difficult to get the entire story in one place anymore and to have only the facts presented in the story w/out opinion and/or spin inserted.
Today as a rule most people just don’t have the time to read/research 1 topic by going to multiple outlets to get the entire story(let alone all the important stories going on in our world) and therefore they listen to a broadcast/paper/website of their choosing, take it to be the end all, and decide from there.
The 1st amendment includes ‘the press’ because a free, unbiased reporting system/outlet is vital to a republic system like ours.
Spirit of America October 13th, 2014 at 3:20 am
“Plus they don’t believe ANYBODY anymore.”
This is a very telling sentence and in my view very true. That’s the status of the people when considering trust in our government/office holders.
What I ‘like’ is when people will still ‘defend’ their supposed side or person though. Such as congressional approval is at an all-time low… yet watch how many incumbents get re-elected.. because of the type of thinking “all other congresspeople are ‘bad’, not mine”…
fahvel October 1st, 2014 at 10:03 am
what the hell are you babbling about now? Bad pilots, poorly trained pilots fkd up and you just babble.
Skydog2 October 1st, 2014 at 10:16 am
72% of Americans believe our “allies” in the region are too incompetent to get the job done so we need to send our own forces.
The above article just reinforces their incompetence.
arc99 October 1st, 2014 at 10:58 am
Please speak for yourself. I believe this President. More to the point, nowhere in the reporting on this poll can I find any results indicating lack of trust. Nor does it say anything about incompetence of our allies.
If you ever wonder why many supporters of the President have such complete disdain for his critics, please consider your post to be exhibit A. You guys make up BS out of thin air, and then present your fiction as if it were fact.
A quick Google tour shows that the right wing blogs are propagating the same spin on this poll. Breitbart’s article in particular puts heavy spin on the storyline of the President as a liar.
I have given up on the notion that the President’s critics will ever engage in honest, fact-based criticism. So when your latest round of nay-saying is tuned out as meaningless noise, you have no one to blame but yourselves. Making up BS out of thin air gets old, and eventually we get tired of the BS.
Here is a link to the NBC article on the poll you referenced,
Please cite where the ACTUAL POLL indicates people do not trust the President or consider our allies incompetent. You are certainly entitled to your opinions. But when you present those opinions in a false context, implying that a scientific poll supports your opinion when it does nothing of the sort , those of us who base our opinions on facts are going to call you on it.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/isis-terror/poll-72-believe-u-s-will-use-american-combat-troops-n212791
Skydog2 October 1st, 2014 at 1:20 pm
The president says we will not put boots on the ground but 72% think we will put boots on the ground.
If not lack of trust, how do you explain this?
William October 1st, 2014 at 1:46 pm
“but 72% think we will put boots on the ground.
If not lack of trust, how do you explain this?”
So the President is not trusted because of what MIGHT happen in the future?
Skydog2 October 1st, 2014 at 1:50 pm
If not lack of trust, how do you explain this?
Abby Normal October 1st, 2014 at 10:05 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a8jphxpi1ro
granpa.usthai October 1st, 2014 at 10:18 am
doesn’t really matter in the IRAQI CIVIL WAR as the US TAXPAYERS are funding the whole deal (both sides) one way or the other – only our US Military Casualties have been significantly less under CIC Obama – to date. Unfortunately, as Skydog2 points out, the FEED THE GREED of Romney’s 47% are once again demanding the blood sacrifice of AMERICA’s youth, even though it’s completely unnecessary, knowing that most Americans will support whatever offshore bank account deposits it takes for a feeble and failed attempt to protect them after they are placed in harms way – AGAIN.
The USA HAS the technology and POWER to end this entire regional conflict (that the Romney 47% are hyping as a death threat on America) just as POTUS Truman had to end the war with Japan without an extended high casualty rate for US.
Republicans and Romney’s 47% do not give a damn about the regional civil war they initiated, loss of US Military, hell, they don’t even care about the safety of America at home. Their one and only concern is the ‘amount available’ in their offshore bank accounts.
I call upon this POTUS and ALL AMERICANS in the US Government, DO THE RIGHT THING! FREEZE all offshore bank accounts held by people with a US Citizenship and force a full disclosure of ALL FUNDS and their origins! Make the offshore banking SCAM crystal clear, then see how many Americans support the war profiteering of the 47% through endless misguided adventures at the cost to our Families, Traditions, Values and Nation!
Roctuna October 1st, 2014 at 10:36 am
Less likely a pilot who made a mistake, and more likely a sympathizer who recognized an opportunity when he saw one.
ExPFCWintergreen October 1st, 2014 at 11:28 am
You had one job…
mrbigstuff October 1st, 2014 at 11:36 am
Hope the food is buckets of chitlins.