Dr Tiller’s Murderer Demands His First Amendment Right To Discuss Killing More Abortion Providers
Convicted murderer, domestic terrorist and all around fun guy, Scott Roeder, the man who took Wichita abortion provider George Tiller’s life during church services, was caught making threats against his next victim: Julie Burkhart, the executive director of the clinic that replaced Dr. Tiller after Roeder murdered him, according to Wonkette.
[su_center_ad]Roeder is represented by Topeka attorney Billy Rork, an acquaintance of the murderer’s since childhood, and said he thinks the department violated Roeder’s right to freedom of speech.
Rork said on Friday that he is working free of charge after Roeder sent him a letter asking for his help. (Insert lawyer joke here).
Rork said he took the case mainly because “I’m a big First Amendment guy.”
And I’m a “Don’t murder people” kind of woman.
If you think Roeder wasn’t serious with his threats, check out the Army Of God site, in which they thank him for murdering Doctor Tiller. Because, that’s just what Jesus would do.
CJ Online reports:
The Associated Press reported Roeder was being held last year at Lansing Correctional Facility when the corrections department disciplined him after concluding he made threats of violence against a different Wichita abortion provider during a telephone interview with an anti-abortion activist. The activist put a recording of the call on YouTube.
The recording included discussion about how Julie Burkhart, executive director of the abortion rights group Trust Women, had opened a women’s health center providing abortion services in the Wichita building Tiller used. Roeder could be heard saying it was “death-defying” for someone to reopen that clinic.
He added, “To walk in there and reopen a clinic, a murder mill where a man was stopped, it’s almost like putting a target on your back — saying, ‘Well, let’s see if you can shoot me.’ ”
The Associated Press reported Roeder was given 45 days in disciplinary segregation with no outside communication, followed by 60 days of loss of privileges and a $20 fine.
Rork said Friday that Roeder hadn’t realized the activist was recording the conversation and would post it online.
Rork said of Roeder: “He didn’t threaten anybody. He just was commenting to a private individual in a discussion that happened to be recorded.”
Rork said that if the First Amendment protects the statement by Westboro Baptist Church members that “Fags are worthy of death,” then it certainly protects the statements Roeder made to the activist.
(my bold)
Right, because calling gay people “fags” is just like murdering someone in cold blood, then discussing your next target, all the while blaming it on God.
In the conversation, Roeder told Iowa Army of God member David Leach that:
“eight [providers] have been shot, so we’ve got 92 to go,” referencing an anti-choice pastor who once claimed, according to Roeder, “If 100 abortionists were shot, [the surviving abortion providers] would probably go out of business.” Roeder also referred to Julie Burkhart, founder of the South Wind Women’s Clinic in Wichita, as “Julie Darkheart” and said, “For Julie Darkheart to walk back in there and reopen a murder mill where a man was stopped. It’s almost like putting a target on your back, saying, ‘Well, let’s see if you can shoot me!’”
The video last year, as posted by RH Reality Check:
How dare we take away the Army Of God’s next thrill kill.
H/T: Wonkette[su_csky_ad]
Image: The Wichita Eagle.
M D Reese October 20th, 2014 at 6:36 pm
It sounds like he needs to be isolated completely. Let him rant to himself.
tiredoftea October 20th, 2014 at 7:21 pm
I’d venture that a quiet, peaceful prison death would isolate him quite well. But, my preference is for him to live as along a life as possible.
forpeace October 20th, 2014 at 6:44 pm
Dear Anomaly 100,
Bravo, one more time another well written and excellent article on this Domestic Terrorist and the convicted killer.
This killer is demanding his “First Amendment Right?”
He has no right whatsoever because he belonged to a group called the “Sovereign Citizen Movement” which believes that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate. Therefore, he doesn’t even believe in U.S. Constitution, so the First Amendment Right doesn’t even apply to him.
Scott Roeder also had been a member of the anti-government Montana Freemen group. His attachment to extreme causes extended beyond anti-abortion extremism. His extremism cross-pollinated between anti-government extremism and anti-abortion activism and led to violence and murder.
He was stopped in Topeka, Kansas, in April 1996 while displaying a placard reading “Sovereign Citizen” in lieu of a license plate. He had no driver’s license, vehicle registration or proof of insurance. Police officers searching his car discovered the bomb components, explosives charges, a fuse cord, a pound of gunpowder and nine-volt batteries in the trunk.
He just has to shut up and enjoys his life in prison, too bad taxpayers are paying for him.
Obewon October 20th, 2014 at 6:52 pm
Roeder is the insane church killer of legally abiding Dr. Tiller. Like 85% of all Christians Roeder is Bible illiterate as his own Bible says any fetus, or born baby under 1 month old are ‘worthless’: “But if they are from a month even up to five years old, then your valuation shall be five shekels of silver for the male, and for the female your valuation shall be three shekels of silver.”-Leviticus 27.7. http://biblehub.com/leviticus/27-7.htm
forpeace October 20th, 2014 at 9:17 pm
Neither of them has ever even read the Bible, I guarantee it.
Suzanne McFly October 20th, 2014 at 7:15 pm
Why are all these rabid anti-abortion types men?
tiredoftea October 20th, 2014 at 7:19 pm
Mommy issues?
Suzanne McFly October 20th, 2014 at 7:31 pm
It seems as if they can’t control any woman in their own lives so they try to assert their beliefs onto other womens bodies to try to control other women.
Rusty Shackleford October 20th, 2014 at 7:56 pm
Because men commit upwards of 90% of ALL violent crime.
Suzanne McFly October 20th, 2014 at 8:07 pm
Maybe someone can create a pill to diminish the levels of testosterone instead of the Viagra or Cialis pills we now have.
Cosmic_Surfer October 20th, 2014 at 8:06 pm
As we noted during the War of the coathangers (1968-1973), it is men (not all men but mainly men) most threatened by women demanding to be in control of their own destiny, Men have had a patriarchy for centuries …These troglodytes fear the power slipping from their knuckle-dragging grip.
Carla Akins October 20th, 2014 at 8:40 pm
As usual, you’re right. It’s really no different than white Christian fundamentalists grasping to hold on to their privilege once a black man is elected President or same-sex marriage or…..anything that they don’t hold the upper hand.
rg9rts October 21st, 2014 at 6:50 am
A troglodyte is a wren…what do you have against them???? Now men that fear women…ISIS and Orthodox Jews
Cosmic_Surfer October 21st, 2014 at 10:34 am
Don’t quite get it do you?
rg9rts October 21st, 2014 at 12:05 pm
You should talk…polly… look it up tweet …..sarcasm is soooooo far beyond your puny grasp
Cosmic_Surfer October 21st, 2014 at 9:09 pm
Oh, look another pretend grown up
rg9rts October 22nd, 2014 at 4:00 am
Looking in you cage mirror again….I’ll bet you’ll think twice before EVER using troglodyte again LOL Mission accomplished
fahvel October 21st, 2014 at 1:27 am
look closely, they are not even men – they are a form of slime with a ding dong that should be removed, dried and tossed in the sea.
Cosmic_Surfer October 20th, 2014 at 7:35 pm
George Tiller deserves for this guy to STFU.
And to those who buy the lie of Islamophobia ‘cuz “Muslims are terrorists”, The Army of God is the prime example of a terrorist organization claiming to Christianity. It isn’t faith…it is psychotic dogma claiming to be religion.
(Note – Colorado…vote NO on “67”… The latest try at Personhood in the state)
arc99 October 20th, 2014 at 7:37 pm
Where are all the death penalty advocates?
If anyone deserves to be in the express lane to state-mandated termination with extreme prejudice, it is this guy
searambler October 20th, 2014 at 9:11 pm
Not when some members of the state secretly agree with what he did…
Spirit of America October 20th, 2014 at 11:56 pm
When this case was getting ready to go to trial, I wrote a letter to Nola Foulston imploring for the death penalty.
Society, in my view, has a right to protect itself, and some folks will never be able to live in society w/out doing harm, we just don’t know enough to cure them yet. To me, the death penalty is the only way to ensure no escape(it has happened), no reversal because the wrong reason(it has happened) and no ‘influence’ brings about release(it has happened).
Where as it should be used sparingly and only in very clear evidence(Dahmer, Gacy, etc), it has its place.
fahvel October 21st, 2014 at 1:26 am
until you personally are willing to put a bullet in someone’s head, do not talk about taking a life.
Spirit of America October 21st, 2014 at 1:58 am
First, you have no idea if I have or have not done exactly that already, for what ever the reason/scenario.
Second, using that logic, most people wouldn’t be able to discuss most topics. Unless you are willing to do the surgery itself, do not ever advocate someone have brain surgery to remove a tumor, unless you are willing to guard murderers for life, do not ever advocate the life sentence, unless you are willing to house every immigrant do not ever say we should allow any in, and on and on and on, no matter the topic.
See how silly that logic is to use in a discussion? There would be no discussion on anything.
Bunya October 21st, 2014 at 2:51 pm
So in other words, you wouldn’t be willing to kill Roeder yourself, but you don’t object to others doing it. Sounds like war hawk logic. “You go fight in a war I advocate. I’ll stay here and hold your coat.”
Spirit of America October 21st, 2014 at 5:49 pm
I didn’t say that at all, didn’t even address that issue actually.
Sounds like ‘post’-traumatic logic to me.
No, seriously, how did you come up with whether I would or wouldn’t from my post, just curious?
colleen2 October 21st, 2014 at 11:28 am
Oh please spare us. This man has committed murder, indeed he assassinated a doctor. At church. Now he is threatening another doctor FROM JAIL. The death penalty was invented for men like Scott Roeder, his lawyer and the entire ‘Army of God’.
Bunya October 21st, 2014 at 2:47 pm
Nobody is scummier than Scott Roeder, but to kill him makes us just as scummy as he is. One can only hope he’s getting his just desserts (if you know what I mean).
fahvel October 22nd, 2014 at 4:27 am
then get your self out there and jab the needle, or pull the switch, or, better yet, make a noose. – until you can touch death, you are just a mouth blathering.
colleen2 October 22nd, 2014 at 2:54 pm
So, would you rather we allow the religious right to impose their vile beliefs onto all women? I rather suspect that is your belief;.
But no I do not wish to kill him, I think Mr Roeder should not be allowed to engage in the same ‘pro-life’ political activities that caused him to murder an actual born human being in cold blood. I think that Cheryl Sullenger and every other convicted ‘pro-life’ domestic terrorist should NEVER be allowed to engage in the same political activities that cause them to want to murder actual persons and destroy the property of other persons.
We should tax the ‘pro-life’ movement and it’s vile churches. But, no, I would never kill Mr Roeder, I think that society needs protection from men like Mr Roeder and his vile movement and I could care less about his (or yours) “deeply held religious beliefs”. Hope this helps.
fahvel October 22nd, 2014 at 4:51 pm
don’t you dare attribute religion to me – there’s no f’n god and the church is responsible for more millions of dead than you can count – your back pedaling is kind of sad – ya started out as a death dealer and degraded to some kind of abstract logic. It’s the religious who kill and maul and believe in leaving the living to their own misfortunes. Wake up to the really sad state of affairs in your country – the right racist xians are the bane of what is to come and by advocating any kind of death on someone els, you join their ranks.
colleen2 October 22nd, 2014 at 8:47 pm
You have been ‘attributing’ a great deal to me , most in the form of gratuitous insults. Please leave me the fuck alone.
cecilia October 21st, 2014 at 3:59 pm
give me the gun and I’ll do it right now
fahvel October 22nd, 2014 at 4:29 am
you and colleen can waltz off together and kill when you decide it’s the thing to do – very very sick people.
cecilia October 22nd, 2014 at 6:57 am
I’m just manning up and doing what should be done. scum like this doctor killer are a drain on society.
I don’t believe in using “the death penalty” for just anyone in every situation. In fact it IS used way too often. innocent people have already been killed.
when there absolutely NO DOUBT as to a criminals guilt and he shows himself to be unchanging like this bastard…then why keep him around?
Michael Hill October 22nd, 2014 at 10:39 pm
I have the gun and the ammo. Provide transportation, a hotel and all meals. I’ll have him in Hell 3 seconds after I pull the trigger.
Dean Gostling October 20th, 2014 at 8:43 pm
Excuse me ,since when do convicted murders get the right to make demands?
forpeace October 20th, 2014 at 8:49 pm
Especially a convicted killer who belonged to “Sovereign Citizen Movement” which believes that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate.
Carla Akins October 20th, 2014 at 9:12 pm
According to Findlaw – Inmates retain only those First Amendment rights, such as freedom of speech, which are not inconsistent with their status as inmates and which are in keeping with the legitimate objectives of the penal corrections system, such as preservation of order, discipline, and security. In this regard, prison officials are entitled to open mail directed to inmates to ensure that it does not contain any illegal items or weapons, but may not censor portions of correspondence which they find merely inflammatory or rude.
forpeace October 20th, 2014 at 9:16 pm
Hello dear Carla, I posted this comment for you on Alabama House Speaker indicted.I will just post it here for you:
This is for dear CarlaAkins,
Last week there was an article about “Conservative Christian Radio Host Accused Of Sexually Assaulting 3-Year-Old Boy” written by Anomaly100.
I just remembered there was this line at the end of article:
H/T: The incomparable @CarlaAkins with thanks.
I would like to give you credit for that, job well done.
Carla Akins October 21st, 2014 at 5:01 am
danke
StoneyCurtisll October 20th, 2014 at 9:12 pm
This piece of garbage is right where he belongs, In maximum security prison at Lansing Correctional Facility.
Doing a “hard 50”,(50 years with no possibility for parole)..
He will die there, and be buried on the premises.
joe barry October 20th, 2014 at 11:49 pm
And, he always was worthless even prior to the murder.
veggiedude October 21st, 2014 at 12:55 am
Pardon me, but I thought his only right was to not have any unusual and cruel punishment.
rg9rts October 21st, 2014 at 6:47 am
Keel hauled
Red Eye Robot October 21st, 2014 at 12:57 am
You will denounce this sociopath but applaud cop killer Mumia abu Jamal giving a commencement speech
androgyne anode October 21st, 2014 at 3:39 am
Sounds fair to me.
Cops are barely even people.
tracey marie October 21st, 2014 at 12:33 pm
whom besides you brought him up? Is this the straw man and deflection tactic the teabaggs use when they are wrong?
Morgan O'Brien-Bledsoe October 22nd, 2014 at 1:00 pm
I don’t even know who he’s talking about. Although i will shortly.
Dwendt44 October 21st, 2014 at 1:54 pm
If he made a commencement speech, I’ll assume he’s not in prison. Big difference between the two.
Red Eye Robot October 22nd, 2014 at 5:02 am
He’s in prison for life without parole. He was originally sentenced to death but his death sentence has since been commuted to life without parole. He is the cause celeb for many liberal elite.
Michael Hill October 22nd, 2014 at 10:37 pm
False equivalency. Straw Man deflection.
angie497 October 23rd, 2014 at 12:11 pm
And if Mumia abu Jamal chose to give a commencement speech talking about how good a thing it would be to have dead cops littering the landscape, we’d have a problem with that, too.
I know this is a difficult concept for some people to grasp, but the problem here isn’t with a convicted murderer talking. The problem is with a man that is proud of having killed someone making statements not just condoning but praising and *encouraging* the killing of others.
I know nuanced, big-picture thinking is beyond a lot of people, but give it a shot, K?
rg9rts October 21st, 2014 at 6:47 am
I’d let him discuss as much as he wants while he is dangling from the end of a rope
mrbigstuff October 21st, 2014 at 8:59 am
Just another right to be born person,Its ok to kill once youre here ,Where are the pro death penalty folks he’s perfect for the electric chair,I’ll pull the switch.
tracey marie October 21st, 2014 at 1:24 pm
killing actual humans that were living and breathing is good and justified but cells being aborted is bad, nut job.
Bunya October 21st, 2014 at 2:53 pm
That’s because the religious right believes that life begins at conception, and ends at birth.
Kelli Crackel October 21st, 2014 at 1:48 pm
Just so we’re clear, I think that the odious excuse for a human being called Roeder is right on one point. I think Dr. Julie Burkhart probably did say to herself, “yeah, lets see if y’all can kill me” after her friend and colleague was mercilessly gunned down and Burkhart re-opened the clinic, and I admire her more than words can say for thinking just that. The amount of bravery, heart, and sheer guts it must have taken to re-open a vital center of women’s health, in the aftermath of a senseless tragedy, is mind-boggling. Dr. Burkhart is a true hero and deserves our gratitude and admiration.
Anna Athey October 22nd, 2014 at 8:36 am
I’ve always wondered why anti-abortion advocates and churches NEVER mention birth control as a way to prevent the perceived need for abortion. I’d think they’d be handing out condoms and opening free birth control clinics.
agio October 22nd, 2014 at 12:57 pm
Because it’s not about “the sanctity of life” it’s about keeping women under the boot of patriarchy.
Morgan O'Brien-Bledsoe October 22nd, 2014 at 12:58 pm
They don’t want to prevent unwanted pregnancy they want to end women having sex when their not married. And if a woman is married she should be forced to have her husbands child regardless of her desires. If she wants to have sex that is.