Gohmert: Gays Shouldn’t Serve In Military Because Massages
[su_right_ad]Texas Congressman Louie Gohmert said that in ancient Greece the gays were busy getting massages before going into battle and in today’s world that will make them ill-prepared for war.
“I’ve had people say, ‘Hey, you know, there’s nothing wrong with gays in the military. Look at the Greeks,'” he said. “Well, you know, they did have people come along who they loved that was the same sex and would give them massages before they went into battle. But you know what, it’s a different kind of fighting, it’s a different kind of war and if you’re sitting around getting massages all day ready to go into a big, planned battle, then you’re not going to last very long. It’s guerrilla fighting. You are going to be ultimately vulnerable to terrorism and if that’s what you start doing in the military like the Greeks did … as people have said, ‘Louie, you have got to understand, you don’t even know your history.’ Oh yes I do. I know exactly. It’s not a good idea.”
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causeican October 22nd, 2014 at 6:26 pm
There goes Louie Gohmert fantasizing again.
jasperjava October 22nd, 2014 at 6:50 pm
Calves the size of cantaloupes… Mmmmm…
Carla Akins October 22nd, 2014 at 7:05 pm
I loves me some cantelope
tracey marie October 22nd, 2014 at 6:29 pm
You just have to laugh at him when he goes all stupid and baggerish.
Linda1961 October 22nd, 2014 at 6:31 pm
Louie, Louie, you seem to spend a lot of time thinking about gays…
tracey marie October 22nd, 2014 at 6:31 pm
He does, doesn’t he.
StoneyCurtisll October 22nd, 2014 at 6:34 pm
Gohmert is so stupid even I am embarrassed for him.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 6:34 pm
Gay people shouldn’t serve in the military for the same reason nobody else should either.
And more, since they’re much more likely to be assaulted by their fellow soldiers.
Obewon October 22nd, 2014 at 6:34 pm
(R-Sparta) Gohmert for president until 2016~ Equal marriage Spartan warriors were one of the most efficient and strongest of the Leading Greek city states in its time. The Spartans were highly organised and their land based army was almost untouchable, both in its battle skills and it’s mastery of warfare tactics and fighting. http://www.legendsandchronicles.com/ancient-warriors/spartan-warriors/
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 6:36 pm
The military should only be staffed by affluent white cis het male property owners.
Let them die in their own stupid wars.
arc99 October 22nd, 2014 at 6:37 pm
Whatever one’s opinions about Israel might be, no one can argue that they know a thing or two about maintaining a world class military force.
If gays in the military is good enough for the chosen people, it is certainly good enough for the Land of the Free.
http://www.haaretz.com/news/national/.premium-1.575696
Israeli military one of the world’s most LGBT friendly, report says
In the first index to rank countries by the inclusion of gay and lesbian service members, Israel breaks the top ten, far ahead of the United States.
Obewon October 22nd, 2014 at 6:42 pm
All NATO warriors are LGBT equal with the lone exception of Turkey.
DaddyO_969 October 22nd, 2014 at 10:16 pm
Turkey isn’t exactly a beacon of civil rights, for all that the Ottomans had highly developed culture.
DaddyO_969 October 22nd, 2014 at 10:15 pm
This country is far to cynical and ignorant for anything so sensible.
Pundit456 October 22nd, 2014 at 6:56 pm
He is a tad bit off. Most Greeks who engaged in same gender sodomy were married to women and the males they sodomized were younger than seventeen. The Greeks deemed males who submitted sexually to other males beyond the age of seventeen unfit for society and they were relegated to the fringe.
After the Greeks were conquered, the practice was banned and violators were put to death.
Some ascribe their defeat to their perverse liaisons.
arc99 October 22nd, 2014 at 7:00 pm
Gohmert is completely off. Always.
Pundit456 October 22nd, 2014 at 7:45 pm
You would be hard pressed to find a politician today who isn’t talking out of his or her rear-end 24/7. Seems it is getting harder and harder for voters to distinguish between reality and reality TV; they vote as if their vote is inconsequential.
arc99 October 22nd, 2014 at 7:52 pm
I would strongly disagree.
Sen. Bernie Sanders of Vermont addresses very directly issues that are of concern to a lot of people. Regardless of whether you agree with Sen. Sanders’ positions on the issues, the difference between him and Gohmert is like the Pacific Ocean and the Gobi Desert.
StoneyCurtisll October 22nd, 2014 at 8:04 pm
Yet people still vote him into office…
There must be something in the water, (in his district) that makes people vote for him…;)
DaddyO_969 October 22nd, 2014 at 10:13 pm
Fear. He plays to the lowest common denominator. Fear to one degree or another is the most useful tool of the fascist. That is the Republican play book.
Obewon October 22nd, 2014 at 9:38 pm
“You would be hard pressed to find a (GOP TP) politician today who isn’t talking out of his or her rear-end 24/7”-True!
That’s another reason so many (R) Candidates are indicted today in copying Pleaded guilty Fox News felon Dinesh D’Souza, et al.
Obewon October 22nd, 2014 at 9:31 pm
Gohmert outflanks you by his unanimous and repeated self inflicted sodomy, described by your fantasies as same gender females with toys looking at you hiding in the bushes like when Marcuth & Michele Bachmann were busted with binoculars.
forpeace October 22nd, 2014 at 7:03 pm
Someone please covers Louie Gohmert’s mouth with duct tape.
This crazy man is getting out of control.
MarcoZandrini October 23rd, 2014 at 9:41 am
“Someone please covers Louie Gohmert’s mouth with duct tape laced with super glue.” Fixed it for ya!
Suzanne McFly October 22nd, 2014 at 7:06 pm
My Bachelors degree is in History and I never read any story about Greek soldiers getting massages, did I miss something? That sounds like it may of been a fun lesson to read about, I feel gipped.
Carla Akins October 22nd, 2014 at 7:06 pm
Does he know he talking out loud?
tiredoftea October 22nd, 2014 at 7:51 pm
Does he know that he’s talking?
whatthe46 October 22nd, 2014 at 8:51 pm
another HA!
tiredoftea October 22nd, 2014 at 8:53 pm
Louie is waaay to easy. I’m almost embarrassed to post these things.
Maxx44 October 22nd, 2014 at 7:11 pm
Does Gomer’s level of stupidity cause migraines?
tiredoftea October 22nd, 2014 at 7:49 pm
Not for him.
whatthe46 October 22nd, 2014 at 8:50 pm
HA!
Kara Connor October 22nd, 2014 at 7:17 pm
I swear these bigots spend more time imagining and thinking about man-on-man sex than gay men do. It would be hilarious if they weren’t using their own fantasy projections to deny others their civil rights, or in this case wish to prevent them serving their country. I’ll bet Louie Gohmert could provide some very detailed scenarios he’s thought up, involving men covered in baby oil and how it could be problematic.
Tommy6860 October 22nd, 2014 at 7:30 pm
I wonder if he’s commenting from personal experience.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 7:33 pm
Nope he’s one of yours. Don’t dump your hetero refuse on the gay community, thanks. You keep him.
Anomaly 100 October 22nd, 2014 at 7:58 pm
Tommy is a liberal.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 8:26 pm
That doesn’t have any bearing on what I said. By “yours” I meant straight.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 10:22 pm
See Rusty’s reply above.
Anomaly 100 October 23rd, 2014 at 8:50 am
Too many comments to go through and I’m extremely busy right now.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 11:02 am
You had enough time to be dismissive, but not enough time to listen to other qu33r people.
Gee.
Anomaly 100 October 23rd, 2014 at 11:32 am
Queer people? We don’t allow straight people to use that language here and I won’t allow you to do so either.
Absolutely no homophobic remarks are allowed on this site, no matter whether you’re gay or straight.
Stop acting persecuted to the very people who have supported equal rights. It hurts your cause and makes you look overly sensitive.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 11:57 am
Get bent. I am qu33r. qu33r qu33r qu33r.
So are most of my friends.
If you don’t want qu33r people on this site, whatever.
Keep it all bourgeois – it’s much more comfortable that way.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 11:58 am
Also, don’t you dare tell me how to look for my own interests.
Take that parochial crap and stuff it.
Liberation is not premised on keeping you comfortable or prioritizing your feelings.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:24 pm
What’s especially funny about this, is you telling a quëer person they aren’t allowed to identify as queër.
What exactly *did* you think the Q in LGBTQ stood for anyway?
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 2:01 pm
Straight people using the term and LGBT people using the term are not even remotely equivalent. Reappropriation is a thing.
Anomaly 100 October 23rd, 2014 at 2:22 pm
Sorry, but if we hold those rules on our site, we ask everyone to abide by them. I did ask and she doubled down.
I don’t allow the black kids in my neighborhood to drop the N word in my house simply because they think it’s part of their culture. It offends others.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 2:29 pm
You called it “homophobic.” Do you call those black kids racist?
mea_mark October 23rd, 2014 at 2:45 pm
I call it inappropriate and unwelcome the way it was used here. Really, that is all that matters.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 2:50 pm
Self-identification is inappropriate? Not everyone identifies with the more “palatable” terms like lesbian, gay, transgender, etc. Reclaiming this word and using it as an umbella term for “not cishet” allows them to identify and express solidarity with the movement without having to pin themselves down to a specific label that they’re uncomfortable with or uncertain of.
mea_mark October 23rd, 2014 at 2:57 pm
For now, at this site, that term is considered inappropriate as it offends some of the readers.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 2:59 pm
Apparently that empathy for offended individuals doesn’t apply when two LGBT people express displeasure with a cheap homophobic joke. What was it Anomaly said?
mea_mark October 23rd, 2014 at 3:09 pm
I am putting an end to things. Things were escalating, now they are ending. This is what I am doing as a moderator. I am not taking sides, I am ending things.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 3:12 pm
Things were actually very amicable between AA, myself, and Tommy. Tommy was more than happy to listen, as was jasperjava, and we ended our conversations on very positive notes. Seems like mods like you and Anomaly getting involved is what escalated things.
mea_mark October 23rd, 2014 at 3:18 pm
Anomaly is a hostess, this is her home. I tried very hard to stay out of things. I am here to end it.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 3:33 pm
How’s that working out for you? Like I said, we ended our conversations with Tommy and jasperjava already, and quite amicably. Only thing keeping things going here is you and Anomaly.
Anomaly 100 October 23rd, 2014 at 1:01 pm
You’re banned. Get ‘used to it.’ It’s for your comment below which I am deleting.
No homophobic remarks allowed on this site. I don’t care if you’re gay or straight, we do not tolerate the intolerable.
I warned you and you doubled down.
Tommy6860 October 22nd, 2014 at 8:05 pm
I think you missed the snark 😛 No biggie. Just as an aside, I leave my profile open, so as to let people see how left of left I am.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 8:14 pm
No, I didn’t miss the snark.
Insinuating that an anti-homophobic bigot is gay is basically a slam to gay people – both in terms of insinuating they’re gay as though it’s negative (replace gay with red hair and you’ll see it falls apart) and also because it’s suggesting that there’s this big cabal of closeted gay quislings.
It’s problematic, and I am echoing the sentiment of men in the gay community who have expressed the same disappointment.
Regardless of how left you are, this isn’t about tribal loyalty – it’s just about pointing out a common, and problematic epithet used by well meaning people who simply didn’t realize the full implications of what they were saying – not out of stupidity or callousness, but simply due to the inability to see things through the eyes of the gay people who read it.
tracey marie October 22nd, 2014 at 8:18 pm
lighten up, he was joking
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 8:27 pm
“lighten up, he was joking” is not really an appropriate response when someone makes an insensitive statement. I politely pointed it out. Rusty Shackleford would have said the same thing.
tracey marie October 22nd, 2014 at 8:37 pm
You went overboard because you are being over sensitive. You were neither polite then or now.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 8:47 pm
“you are being over sensitive”
Now see, that’s not really a helpful response either, as outlined here: http://www.derailingfordummies.com/derail-using-emotion/
It’s pretty much not your place to dictate how someone is allowed to feel, but I appreciate your input. Thanks so much!
tracey marie October 22nd, 2014 at 8:49 pm
lol, and you need to lighten up
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 8:54 pm
That’s simply a variation on something which I already explained above, so please feel free to peruse that link again at your leisure. It’s very helpful.
I have a smile on my face as I’m writing this – I guess I’d need to do drugs to get any lighter, but I’m afraid I gave up alcohol and drugs several years ago as part of an overall commitment to my health.
I really appreciate your profound concern over my mental well-being, but please don’t worry yourself on my account. I assure you that everything is great!
Again. thank you so much!
Best regards
=)
tracey marie October 22nd, 2014 at 9:01 pm
Now why would I click on your link?
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 9:09 pm
It was just suggestion – not a mandate, and it’s not my link. It’s just a link. I don’t have any ownership of it, nor the contents at the other end.
Anomaly 100 October 22nd, 2014 at 8:40 pm
You’re battling the wrong person. Tommy is a strong supporter of LGBT rights. He’s also a good friend.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 8:44 pm
I’m not battling anyone at all.
Since he’s an ally of LGBT people I have no doubt he’ll take what one of those people explains to him under consideration. After all that’s how allies become better allies.
Anomaly 100 October 22nd, 2014 at 8:56 pm
Thanks for giving Tommy tips on how to support causes that he’s already supported for years.
You’re coming off as if you are smarter than the rest of us.
Tracey was right. Lighten up. You’re being highly sensitive. Tommy is a very, very good person.
It’s your loss.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 11:54 pm
http://www.derailingfordummies.com/derail-using-emotion/
Anomaly 100 October 23rd, 2014 at 4:38 am
tl;dr
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 10:59 am
You have no idea how revealing that is.
Thanks for sharing.
Tommy6860 October 23rd, 2014 at 12:53 am
After reading the replies I have so say that I apologize for being insensitive and I totally understand where you are coming from. Let me assure you my intent was total snark aimed at one of biggest assholes in congress. However, in doing so, I see your point in how I implied the “closeted” effect and it having a negative implications. So again, if I offended you, I apologize.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:59 am
You know what, I totally respect that.
Honestly my intent was to inform you more than anything. I tried to soft pedal it but it’s hard to issue constructive criticism and even hard to receive it.
Anyway, as I said – respect. You’re better than most, just for taking the time to reconsider. Take that as you will – it’s simply the truth. =)
Tommy6860 October 23rd, 2014 at 1:09 am
If you are ever engaged in a convo with me anywhere, never be afraid to tell me like it is, seriously. Being wrong is OK for me, especially it makes me a better person and I would respect you much more for that :).
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 1:14 am
Well, other people think I picked you apart. I didn’t mean to, although admittedly my first comment was made in frustration, I tried to follow up and be nice. Maybe I wasn’t. Sometimes I don’t come across the way I intend to. I am a very intense person, both online and off.
I am loyal, I am blunt, I love deeply and I don’t mince words
So for what it’s worth, I felt you should know that about me going forward I’m totally one of *those* people. The upside is, you don’t have to second guess what I say. LOL
Tommy6860 October 23rd, 2014 at 1:20 am
That’s good enough for me. I read and post words, words have meanings, the people who read my words have feelings. You expressed your disdain in the way you know how to convey it, I took none personally since what I posted here affected you negatively. It was the fact you stated it as such, that what I said was painful. I never dismiss that when another tells me that I have offended, hurt and belittled them no matter my intent not to do so. I always tell myself there’s another side when one is affected by my words, whether they are good or bad I must take that seriously.
Feelings are a two-way street.
As far as my personality, I am opposite by the way you describe yourself, and it takes a great deal to get me razzled.
Rusty Shackleford October 22nd, 2014 at 9:33 pm
Okay, this is a major pet peeve of mine. Take this as the opinion of a bisexual man. If you don’t want to listen to it, whatever, but I question what kind of “ally” you are if you value this cheap joke over my voice.
I really hate the joke that homophobes are closet cases, for a multitude of reasons.
1. It’s not even funny. Seriously, this got old decades ago. It’s a completely effortless joke, and it seems like people are just making it reflexively at this point.
2. 99% of the time, it’s not even true. You don’t have to be self-loathing to be hateful. Some people are just hateful assholes. You don’t need to invent a tragic backstory about how he’s closeted and make him into a sympathetic villain.
3. It dumps these hateful asses onto the LGBT community. We understand you don’t want him; neither do we. Take ownership of your garbage and stop trying to pawn him off as “not one of ours.”
4. The subject of the joke becomes an “acceptable target” for liberal “allies” to crack homophobic jokes at. The exact kind of homophobic jokes that people like him crack at actual LGBT people. Unacceptable for what I hope are obvious reasons.
5. It perpetuates, intentionally or not, the idea that homosexuality is something to hide and be ashamed of.
6. This is the big one: it perpetuates the idea that someone’s sexual history is a matter of public record, whether they want it to be or not. Even if he’s secretly the biggest flaming glitter-bombing queen in existence, it is never okay to out someone against their will. No matter how liberal or leftist or progressive you consider yourself, you cannot be trusted to make the call on who is and is not okay to publicly out. That’s some Cathy Brennan type bullshit (she outs trans women to their employers, in the name of “women’s liberation.”)
7. What’s the absolute best-case scenario if it’s true? Here’s what would happen:
-He gets tossed under the bus by his homophobic base
-They elevate a new loudmouth in his place, one who ISN’T closeted and is TWICE as homophobic (to reassure his listeners)
-That’s literally it
-You got a gay man fired and skyrocketed the career of an even stronger homophobe
-What effective praxis
So yeah, cut it out. Get some better material.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 10:21 pm
Thank you
Steve Armstrong October 22nd, 2014 at 10:53 pm
Ok, well let me just say as an Actual Gay Man and not the least bit Bi-Sexual, there has been documented historical evidence of those most vocal of homophobes indeed turning to to be closet cases, so whether we like it or not, it’s no joke.
Rusty Shackleford October 22nd, 2014 at 11:00 pm
I don’t appreciate your casual biphobia there. What is “actual” gay man supposed to imply? I am an ACTUAL bisexual man too, not the least bit gay. Is this some queerer-than-thou nonsense?
And that assertion (completely lacking evidence) address a grand total of…one point I made. Out of 7.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 11:27 pm
Can you even believe this shìt?!
I can’t even…
jasperjava October 23rd, 2014 at 3:00 am
I may need some enlightening here. I mean that sincerely.
“I am an ACTUAL bisexual man too, not the least bit gay.”
I always thought of bisexual identity as composed of being BOTH gay and straight, rather than NEITHER gay or straight.
It seems to me that the former way of thinking is more inclusive, and more likely to encourage making common cause.
Not that I would dream to tell anyone how to shape their identity or decide for them who they should or should not associate with. I’m sure there are just as many ways to be Bi as there are to be Gay or Trans or Straight. I also respect your right NOT to discuss identity issues unless you want to. One of my systemic privileges as a straight man is that I never have to justify my sexual orientation just to satisfy others’ (honest or prurient) curiosity.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 10:42 am
I’m not 50% gay and 50% straight. I’m 100% bisexual. It is a valid identity in-and-of itself, not defined by other identities.
Rhetoric like that leads to queerer-than-thou nonsense, where bi people are only considered “half-gay,” meaning they’re only half-invested-in-the-cause, half-discriminated-against, or half-oppressor.
Besides that, it’s completely backwards. Wouldn’t monosexuals be half-bi? 2 is larger than 1.
Rani Bakr October 24th, 2014 at 5:08 am
THANK YOU
Steve Armstrong November 5th, 2014 at 4:20 pm
There’s nothing casual or phobic of my opinion of bisexuals. I honestly don’t care whether you appreciate anything I have to say on the subject. I addressed the two points of your post that I didn’t appreciate and we see where that got me so we’ve now established clearly that neither of us gives two spits about what the other “appreciates” here.
Rusty Shackleford November 5th, 2014 at 4:28 pm
You addressed ONE point of my seven. Point #2 to be specific, and that’s being generous, given that your assertion completely lacked evidence.
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 11:26 pm
An actual gay man and not just a bisexual? So like, you’re somehow more “pure” or something and that makes you an authority on this? What? Are we establishing hierarchies now? I don’t even want to know what you think about trans people.
Steve Armstrong November 5th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
I wasn’t the one who started this dialogue establishing a hierarchy if you had actually paid attention. Rusty made it quite clear he was speaking from a bi-sexual perspective so excuse me if a gay man has an opinion on homophobia. We’re the one’s who don’t blend in with the straight people after all.
Rusty Shackleford November 5th, 2014 at 4:25 pm
Please tell me more about how well I blend in with my trans boyfriend.
Tommy6860 October 23rd, 2014 at 12:55 am
As I did with androgyne, I apologize for the implication I gave. I see your point as well.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 1:00 am
Thank you for listening.
mea_mark October 23rd, 2014 at 10:10 am
Personally, when a story like this comes out, I try and avoid leaving a comment. So many creative ways to get foot in mouth disease. I just don’t know sometimes how snark will be taken so I try and just go somewhere else, where it is safe to play.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 10:56 am
Snark is cool, but it is an art. In situations where you’re dealing with marginalization you have to be careful and ask yourself who and what the target is that you’re making fun of, but yeah – in the case of doubt it’s best not to joke. That’s why comedians make the big bucks.
Tommy6860 October 23rd, 2014 at 5:39 pm
Not so much leaving a comment, it’s how the comment comes out. I mean, I see so many other comments, yet no offense taken. I won’t avoid commenting on idiots like Gohmert. But if I stop posting to related articles for fear of, then I may never find out if my thinking or potential commentary is hurtful.
mea_mark October 23rd, 2014 at 5:49 pm
It wasn’t Gohmert, it was the subject matter and how he handled it that left the door open to all sorts of problems. That is what trolls do though and that is what Gohmert is.
Maybe my intuition is just good, but when I read the story, everything inside my head was telling me to shut up and go away, don’t say anything, problems are coming.
jasperjava October 23rd, 2014 at 2:42 am
I sympathize with your distaste for “humor” at the expense of marginalized groups or vulnerable people.
But I wonder about this: “it is never okay to out someone against their will.”
Doesn’t THAT perpetuate the idea that homosexuality is something to be ashamed of?
If Gohmert shares his homoerotic fantasies, inspiring reasonable speculation that he’s a self-hating closeted gay man, are we not advancing the cause of acceptance if we encourage him to drop the shame and come out as a proud gay man?
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 10:48 am
No. The closet is a necessary tool for guaranteeing the personal safety of countless LGBT people. When you compromise the integrity of the closet, you are endangering these people. Their sexuality is their business, period. Coming out is a very personal and very serious decision, and it’s something they themselves must do.
No. Where would his support be? He’d be unwelcome in conservative circles for obvious reasons, and he’d be unwelcome in liberal circles because you all clearly hate him, hence your petty and vindictive outing of him.
jasperjava October 23rd, 2014 at 1:22 pm
Thanks for your instructive reply.
Republicans like Gohmert are so toxic to the body politic in all spheres of activity, that no attack against him can possibly be petty or vindictive. I would never use sexual orientation as a club, but if Gohmert self-destructs with his constituency in some way, shape, or form, that could only have a positive outcome.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 1:31 pm
If he self-destructs in some way, good. My issue is with the idea that it’s ever okay to out someone against their will. That’s some Cathy Brennan bullshit.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 10:54 am
Personal safety is not about shame. It’s about personal safety, and you have no place stripping that safety from other people.
ExPFCWintergreen October 22nd, 2014 at 7:41 pm
Gohmertian History: It’s a well-known fact that the Viet Cong guerrilla fighters *never* got massages before going into battle, which is why they successfully conquered Afghanistan, the Moors being notoriously pro-massage, and that’s totally why Bin Laden.
StoneyCurtisll October 22nd, 2014 at 8:02 pm
High Five!
To that,,
DaddyO_969 October 22nd, 2014 at 10:00 pm
I wonder if Yossarian made it to Sweden.
tiredoftea October 22nd, 2014 at 7:50 pm
STUPIDEST HUMAN IN THE KNOWN UNIVERSE!!!!!
Tommy6860 October 22nd, 2014 at 8:09 pm
Steve King has to be just as incoherent and stupid as Loius. Now that we will no longer have Paul Broun and Phil Gingrey (glad they ran in their primaries for a senate seat where their state law disallows them from still running on their house seats) that is a bonus, though those two f-tards are on par with Gohmert Pile.
tiredoftea October 22nd, 2014 at 8:17 pm
There are lot’s of contenders. There is only one Louie!
androgyne anode October 22nd, 2014 at 9:06 pm
…
Tengrain October 22nd, 2014 at 9:43 pm
Massages:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
KB723 October 22nd, 2014 at 9:45 pm
I THINK IT MOVED!!!!
http://youtu.be/IXvPqOGujXc
searambler October 22nd, 2014 at 10:05 pm
“I’ve had people say, ‘Hey, you know, there’s nothing wrong with gays in the military. Look at the Greeks,’”
I’ll bet anyone here ten thousand bucks that no one has ever said that to Louie. Any takers?
searambler October 22nd, 2014 at 10:05 pm
Douchebagsezwhat?
William October 23rd, 2014 at 12:00 am
When you really think about it, sitting around and obsessing about soldiers, massages and Greeks is some pretty gay sh*t
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:02 am
Totally gay. You know, like wearing boas and chaps, visiting bathhouses, and whatever other trite, sexualizing and objectifying stereotypes I can apply to gay people while I’m “defending” them against someone who acts a little worse toward them than I do.
/s
William October 23rd, 2014 at 12:06 am
You missed the parody.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:07 am
No, unfortunately, I really didn’t. It would have been nice if I had though.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:07 am
“Parody,” much like “satire,” is rapidly losing its meaning. I blame South Park and Family Guy.
William October 23rd, 2014 at 12:16 am
I’m just not very PC.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:17 am
I’d really like someone who unironically uses the term “PC” to give me a working definition of it one of these days.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:18 am
Political Correctness: n. That unfortunate development in society where the dominant class is no longer overtly rewarded for exercising their unearned privilege and running roughshod over marginalized people, and instead, every once in awhile faces social consequences for it.
(mine – it’s not canonical)
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:20 am
It’s the same nonsense as “SJW.” An attempt to detach activism from the identities of the marginalized groups.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:20 am
“SJW” is the new “identity politics”
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:20 am
“Divisive.”
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:22 am
*beats someone over the head with the club of institutionalized oppression*
*gets told “hey, maybe if it’s not too much trouble you could stop hitting me over the head with that thing, cuz umm. it really hurts?”*
*”WHY ARE YOU TRYING TO DIVIDE PEOPLE?!! HENGH?!!!”*
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:23 am
I also adore when POLITICIANS brag about not being PC. I don’t think I’d last very long at any job where I bragged about how incorrectly I was doing it to my boss.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:24 am
Heheheheheh, yeah. The irony of a politician saying “I’m politically incorrect” is like a politician who gets elected on a platform of “I hate the government and I don’t believe the job you’re entrusting me with should even exist!”
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:26 am
Ironically, I’d really like such a candidate, if they actually existed. Instead we get posers like the Pauls who co-opt the term Libertarian for an-cap nonsense.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:28 am
Well, yeah in theory.
In practice the idiots like the Pauls and the assorted “anti-government” malcontents just want a free-ride on someone’s dime. Anti-government to them only means not having to do any sort of work.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:30 am
As I understand it, that’s pretty much how all an-caps roll. No taxes, yet somehow currency and private property laws persist. Invisible hand or something.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:35 am
NAP! The magic NAP
It’s all NAP
OH MY GOD IT’S FULL OF NAP!
LOL
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:37 am
Getting kinda late here, that sounds like a good idea.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:39 am
NAP stands for Non-Aggression Principle.
It’s the unicorn of both American Libertarianism and “anarcho”-capitalism.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:40 am
I’m familiar with it. I was just cracking a fairly lame pun.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:41 am
I thought you might be – but I wasn’t sure. =)
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:43 am
My favorite t-shirt that I own.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:43 am
I love that so much. LOL
Rani Bakr October 24th, 2014 at 4:41 am
WANT
William October 23rd, 2014 at 12:31 am
I think it’s likely depends on the sensitivities of whomever is offended. I try to find humor in just about everything, and like being around people who do the same. I worked with a black guy. We were having a beer in one of those great old hardwood taverns in a Polish neighborhood. There was a show on the TV (pick a polka). My buddy observed the dancing for a few moments and exclaimed loudly “Those Polish people sho’ do have natural rhythm”. Every one in the bar laughed. I nearly laughed myself sick. It seemed back then we were better able to laugh at ourselves. If one tries to continuously cater to the absolute highest denominator of protocols, we would say nothing at all.
Yes I got the part where you weren’t agreeing.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:35 am
If you really can’t come up with jokes that aren’t at the expense of marginalized groups, you’re frankly just not a very funny person. Maybe avoid open mic night.
William October 23rd, 2014 at 12:36 am
Arguably all groups can say they are marginalized.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 12:38 am
Arguably a large number of them can shut up. Rich cishet white able-bodied neurotypical men, for example.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:41 am
^this
William October 23rd, 2014 at 12:43 am
Well I’m non of the above save able bodied.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:50 am
So you’re trans?
Gay?
A woman, or non-binary?
William October 23rd, 2014 at 12:56 am
Look. I’m not going to engage you in a conversation. I saw how you picked apart Tommy, and simply spews a lot of condescending nonsense at a person whom I believe doesn’t have a prejudicial bone in his body. If somehow you wish to see yourself as so much more enlightened and tolerant than the rest of the world, that’s fine. Go forth and be well.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 1:08 am
I didn’t actually pick apart Tommy. I was even pretty evenhanded with him, which he acknowledged.
So whatever. Don’t answer the questions. Your facebook profile makes it pretty clear that you didn’t really think about your response to rusty before you said it.
I’m not enlightened, and I probably never will be. If one thinks they’re enlightened they’ll never make progress toward it.
I’m not tolerant at all. Tolerance simply means making excuses for bad behavior. If I was tolerant I wouldn’t have responded to your crass post to begin with.
The truth is, I’m one of the most intolerant people you’ll probably ever meet outside your circle of ex-cops.
The thing is, I don’t need to tolerate people, no matter how different. It’s no issue for me. I can accept someone regardless of race, sexual orientation, gender, or any other intrinsic part of their being. In fact, I think if you have to “tolerate” them over that there is something deeply wrong with you.
But behavior? Yeah – there’s a lot of things I won’t tolerate. I’m anti-fascist. I don’t tolerate systematic oppression, or casual bigotry. I don’t tolerate blaming others for one’s own poor choices. I don’t tolerate greed, or indifference to injustice. I don’t tolerate murder. I don’t tolerate rape, or rapists.
There’s a lot of things I don’t tolerate.
I’m not about to apologize for it, either.
fahvel October 23rd, 2014 at 3:30 am
too too many I’s in your ramble
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 4:03 am
How so? He was talking about me, so my response was about me.
Would it have been better if I had simply leveled similar accusations at him?
And I wasn’t actually rambling. I felt ,my response was cogent. I took care to make sure I addressed his significant arguments.
The reason I spent time on tolerance is that he used it like a cheap, throwaway word, so he seemed to need a lesson in it.
Sorry you didn’t like what I had to say – I don’t really write to please people – I simply say what I mean.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:55 am
Just by your facebook profile you certainly look white, so you probably get treated white.
Do you have some sort of debilitating mental illness, an autism spectrum disorder? If not we can add neurotypical.
So it looks like you’re most likely at the very least an able-bodied cishet white man – with a better than even chance you’re neurotypical.
Seems the only thing you’re really missing is rich – and that’s pretty relative.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:41 am
You might argue it, but that’s a debate you’d lose.
jasperjava October 23rd, 2014 at 3:08 am
Rusty, about William:
“you’re frankly just not a very funny person.”
On this, I come to the defense of William. This particular joke, at the expense of gay people, was in poor taste. But William has razor-sharp wit and insight when it comes to exposing right-wing stupidity. His body of work is impressive. You would profit by taking it in and appreciating it.
One thing we need to avoid as liberals is to lob grenades at each other for our imperfections. We are all the products of a global mind-distorting capitalist propaganda infotainment system. Some of us are more aware of our conditioning than others. We are all somewhere on a continuum between the most depraved right-wing bigot and the most enlightened liberal paragon. Most of us here, including our friend William, are MUCH closer to the “liberal” end of the spectrum than, say, the Pat Robertson side.
We have to band together if we want to defeat the evil right-wing fascists. We have to accept that sometimes one of us will occasionally stumble due to the programming that has been ingrained in us by the System. We can chide when necessary, but let us be gentle to one another. There is a more important war to be fought.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 10:38 am
I’m an anarcho-commmunist. I’m not a liberal, and I’m not on your “team.” I detest petty tribalism, and I’m no fan of Democrats. I’m left-wing, to be sure, but the left-wing does not have any actual representation in this country. We have right-wing and center-right.
So I’m the wrong target to try that party uber alles stuff on.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 10:49 am
Anarcho-communism uber alles!
*awkward high five*
=)
I wish I could upvote your comment as many times as it deserves.
F–k bourgeois liberalism
jasperjava October 23rd, 2014 at 1:31 pm
All political movements have had to depend on alliances. I’m sorry that you don’t consider me a comrade or fellow-traveller or what have you. I will make a common front with anyone willing to fight right-wing Fascism, militarism, economic feudalism, ignorance, hatred, bigotry, etc.
I think we’re on the same side. Sorry if you disagree.
Rusty Shackleford October 23rd, 2014 at 1:34 pm
I detest right-wing fascism, militarism, economic feudalism, ignorance, hatred, and bigotry too.
Where we disagree is that I classify Democrats under all of that too.
fahvel October 23rd, 2014 at 3:27 am
can you tell a joke that is not at the expense of someone/thing else???
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 10:52 am
You can tell a joke that’s not at the expense of marginalized people.
A janitor making a joke toward a CEO is fair game
A CEO making a joke about a janitor is pretty crass.
Jokes have always been a way to speak truth to power.
It’s sycophantic and cretinous to use jokes to reinforce oppression.
David M October 27th, 2014 at 2:16 pm
It really depends on the joke. And how it is meant..
Prefacing this with I am a 49 year old (sigh, ok, 50) gay man who came out of the closet when I was 19…… (I LOVE this joke – there is nothing wrong with it)
A college girl gets drunk off tequila in a bar. For fun, she takes off her panties and walks down the street, giggling. She walks up to a boyscout. Raising her skirt up and down, she says “Super pussy! Super pussy! Super pussy!” The boyscout is appalled! She giggles and continues down the road. She walks up to an old man. Raising her skirt up and down she says, “Super pussy! Super pussy! Super pussy!”. The old man is horrified.. She giggles and continues down the road. She walks up to a gay man.. “Super pussy! Super pussy! Super pussy!”. The gay man looks at her vagina and says, “I think I’ll have the soup”.
Rani Bakr October 24th, 2014 at 4:39 am
Q: Why did the chicken cross the road?
A: Chickens aren’t a marginalized social minority and also aren’t people and you ask absurd questions.
fahvel October 23rd, 2014 at 3:25 am
If it means Politically Correct – then it requires the user to wear a dark suite and lie.
David M October 27th, 2014 at 2:10 pm
It’s the thing you are typing on right now.. Duh! (kidding!)
congero November 18th, 2014 at 12:37 pm
hi rusty it is me again. dr. gonzo is asking for proof of threats by bundy supporters on the ferguson protest thread @ mm. here are some:http://aattp.org/cops-bundys-terrorist-militia-pointed-weapons-at-officers-wanted-violent-outcome-video/
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 12:17 am
“I love how people have turned the idea of not being a racist, ableist, sexist, trans*phobic, queerphobic f*cknut into the phrase “political correctness”.
Because it’s much easier to say “I don’t like all this PC stuff” than it is to say “I actually like my position at the top of the hierarchy and though I know that I’m only here because many people suffer every day, I don’t plan on changing it, because this is waaaay too comfortable.”
torri sepi December 3rd, 2014 at 5:48 am
I think the anti-androgen is affecting your brain.
OldLefty December 3rd, 2014 at 6:36 am
Can you refute it?
torri sepi December 24th, 2014 at 5:43 am
No, of course not. It is a totally wild guess, based on her name, her photo and of course the most telling, her comments.
Boehner-Monkey October 23rd, 2014 at 2:49 am
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rg9rts October 23rd, 2014 at 4:12 am
How can Texans be sooooooooo stupid????
Roctuna October 23rd, 2014 at 7:43 am
It’s pretty easy for most of ’em.
MarcoZandrini October 23rd, 2014 at 9:33 am
They’re……….Texans.
Anomaly 100 October 23rd, 2014 at 8:46 am
I’m sorry. My bad. I didn’t’ realize that you’re the only gay person in the world, therefore, your comment must be right.
As I sit here with my BFF, she’s shaking her head at this comment thread. She’s a lesbian. We live together and have for over 20 years. It’s not as if I don’t know about the stereotypical paintbrush others use on the gay community daily. As a matter of fact, I’ve felt it. Many people assume I’m gay because of my close relationship with my BFF. And to them, I give zero fucks.
Tommy is a friend and an advocate for LGBT causes. You are being your own worst enemy here. I thank God for people like him, willing to fight the good fight for my BFF, her gay brothers, and all of my gay friends and gf, I have a ton of them.
androgyne anode October 23rd, 2014 at 11:00 am
Yay, tokenism, the first refuge of bourgeoisie liberals everywhere.
An American in Canada October 23rd, 2014 at 9:53 am
Why is this still an issue. GOP running out of things to talk about, so let’s loop around?
mmaynard119 October 23rd, 2014 at 4:28 pm
Gohmert represents the first district in Texas. He won election in 2012 with 71.74%. He represents the attitudes and knowledge level of the people he represents.
Rani Bakr October 24th, 2014 at 4:35 am
Uh… when the Greeks went into battle it was all spears and swords and heads and limbs getting cut off.. what the hell kinda mamby-pamby bullshit wars does this dude think were getting fought in the BC?
Zach Cox October 25th, 2014 at 11:31 am
We get it, Gohmert, you’re gay. It’s okay, you can come out of the closet.