November 2, 2014 8:00 am -

While Republicans are concerned over Voter ID in order to supposedly “restore the integrity of the vote,” they might want to do a few updates. In Guilford County, North Carolina, a couple of voters had a difficult time casting a ballot for Kay Hagan. Instead, the votes registered for the Republican candidate.

[su_center_ad]The News & Record reports:

Percy Bostick, 69, of Greensboro said he tried casting a vote for Democrat Kay Hagan at the Old Guilford County Courthouse, only to have the machine register Republican Thom Tillis as his choice.

“I called one of the poll workers over,” Bostick said. “She said do it again. And again, I touched the screen at the proper place for Kay Hagan, and it again reported it for Thom Tillis.”

Bostick tried again, and onhis fourth attempt, the machine finally registered the vote for Hagan.

Another poll worker decided to cancel the ballot altogether and directed Bostick to an adjacent machine, where he was able to cast his ballot without any issues.
The problematic machine was taken out of service

And then on Wednesday, it happened again with another voter who reported a similar problem. That voter also tried selecting Hagan but saw the machine had recorded him as choosing Tillis.

It’s like the machines really like Tillis.

The man was moved to another machine, which finally registered his selections without any problem.

According to Charlie Collicutt, Guilford County elections director, his office has received 14 reports of voting problems since early voting started Oct. 23, including seven from people who became concerned after they got home.

Collicutt urged voters to check that the paper roll next to the screen properly registers their selections, and he said anyone having trouble should tell a poll worker.

“If a precinct official is made aware immediately, that gives us the opportunity to take the machine out of service, check it out, recalibrate it, and determine whether we can get it back into service,” he said.

The problem is, there’s no telling how many incorrect votes were cast for Thom Tillis.

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D.B. Hirsch
D.B. Hirsch is a political activist, news junkie, and retired ad copy writer and spin doctor. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.

104 responses to North Carolina Voting Machine Switches Kay Hagan Vote To Thom Tillis

  1. neworleans878 November 2nd, 2014 at 8:04 am

    • StoneyCurtisll November 2nd, 2014 at 8:44 am

      Great clip~!!
      I love the Mitt Romney sign..’Mitt Romney owns a home in your state’..
      Mitt has so much money, he could own a home in every state.

  2. Tommy6860 November 2nd, 2014 at 8:10 am

    What would Wayout say about this, considering his/her claim that illegals are voting. Wow, this is way to convenient to be just a simple glitch! By the Anomaly, may want to fix the headline, Swiches :P.

  3. KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker November 2nd, 2014 at 8:21 am

    This is another reason for full disclosure of corporate political donors. Dark money will destroy our democracy….and this is just one example.

    • StoneyCurtisll November 2nd, 2014 at 8:40 am

      You can say that again…
      Allow me..’ Dark money will destroy our democracy”..(is)

  4. edmeyer_able November 2nd, 2014 at 8:23 am

    As I recall the same thing happened in the 2012 presidential election switching D votes to R, just to convenient.

  5. jonathan November 2nd, 2014 at 8:52 am

    The GOP does one thing very well. They know how to cheat,rob,and steal elections.

  6. barefoot bob November 2nd, 2014 at 8:59 am

    Happened in Florida, can happen anywhere. Fascist will find a way to prevail.

  7. barefoot bob November 2nd, 2014 at 8:59 am

    Happened in Florida, can happen anywhere. Fascist will find a way to prevail.

  8. Dave November 2nd, 2014 at 9:11 am

    So the repubs better fight for I.D.s for the voting machines…..right?

  9. Mainah November 2nd, 2014 at 9:28 am

    Now if this was reverse … it would be on Fox News as an Obama scandal.

  10. Denise November 2nd, 2014 at 9:46 am

    What this means is the machines have been rigged by the very people paranoid about voter fraud. You know if Hagan looses she is going to want a recount.

    • OldLefty November 2nd, 2014 at 9:58 am

      Recount doesn’t necessarily help;

      Ohio Election Workers Convicted of 
Manipulating 2004 U.S. Presidential Recount

      InternationalHeraldTribune (2007-01-24)

      That was the end of that.
      Most people never even knew that a recount was warranted in Ohio in 2004.

  11. Jeannius November 2nd, 2014 at 10:04 am

    They must have different kinds of voting machines/systems in dif. parts of NC…in Asheville, we fill out a paper ballot and feed it into a machine but never see the actual results come up once it’s fed to the machine. Makes me wonder if any of those get ‘switched’.

  12. Jeff Costa November 2nd, 2014 at 10:19 am

    Dare I say every vote for Tillis is an incorrect vote.

  13. Farmergirl6865 November 2nd, 2014 at 10:25 am

    The problem with electronic voting is that any competent programmer could put up one picture and write code that doesn’t show, to let that vote go to another candidate. Or 1 in 2 of the votes, or 1 in 10 — you get the picture. My husband works in computer security — he says he could have code like this up and running in less than 2 hours.
    The voting machine makers claim that their code is ‘proprietary’, and they do not have to let any one else look at the computer coding.
    And we would never know.

  14. rewinn November 2nd, 2014 at 10:34 am

    Touch screens are easy to mess up using the same “technology” that spitballers use to throw curves. Vote on paper, or at least check your receipt *very* carefully.

    • godlessveteran November 2nd, 2014 at 7:06 pm

      Many machines don’t give any printout.

    • tracey marie November 2nd, 2014 at 7:17 pm

      there is no receipt on what you actually voted, only that you voted and what number you were assigned

  15. tiredoftea November 2nd, 2014 at 10:34 am

    We are watching our democracy vanish right before our eyes.

  16. Spirit of America November 2nd, 2014 at 10:38 am

    It is very important to ensure your vote registers correctly, either side/everyone. Here it is happening in the opposite direction..
    There will be no perfect system(chads come to mind), paper or electronic, just be very careful and attentive when voting!

  17. Ronald Woolever November 2nd, 2014 at 1:02 pm

    Was wondering how long it would take for the cons to figure out how to rig the voting machines. What ever else you do make sure the votes you choose are the ones being counted.

    • Mike November 3rd, 2014 at 11:03 am

      He takes his queues fox. They never need proof for their reporting so he feels he doesn’t either

  18. Kelvin Hoffman November 2nd, 2014 at 1:13 pm

    i see a faked voting rigged to try and make republicans look like they are doing the cheating, when it’s the dumbocraps all the time and everytime doing the cheating ……….

    • Daniel Lovejoy November 2nd, 2014 at 1:22 pm


      • Anomaly 100 November 2nd, 2014 at 2:36 pm

        He don’t need no stinkin’ proof!

    • Larry Schmitt November 2nd, 2014 at 1:56 pm

      You’re not helping your cause by just making up crap.

    • mea_mark November 2nd, 2014 at 3:20 pm

      You sound like a dumbocrap. Does that mean you are responsible for this mess?

  19. Daniel Lovejoy November 2nd, 2014 at 1:26 pm

    Election fraud. If one voter fraud case is enough to create voter id laws and massive Republican butt hurt, then we need to take machines out of the equation and insist that all votes be manually registered and counted.
    The rigged machines is a high tech way of gerrymandering.
    New GOP motto, You don’t know who the right person is to vote for, so we will help you.

  20. Lizard November 2nd, 2014 at 2:34 pm

    The results of these contests as well as the results due to voter suppression and intimidation in Texas and elsewhere should be declared invalid. The GOP steals elections. They certainly can’t win them.

    • Larry Schmitt November 2nd, 2014 at 2:39 pm

      Unfortunately that’s not true. They win with low turnout of Democratic voters.

      • Candide Thirtythree November 5th, 2014 at 9:01 am

        The turnout was low because the republicans kept them from voting.

        • Larry Schmitt November 5th, 2014 at 9:03 am

          That’s only partly true. A lot of Democratic voters just don’t vote the same way Republicans do.

    • mea_mark November 2nd, 2014 at 3:18 pm

      I bet if the states had to pay to redo these elections they would take greater care in doing it right. We really need national standards though first. It is way past time for election reform in America. I hope we get reform before we get revolution.

      • Candide Thirtythree November 5th, 2014 at 9:00 am

        That will never happen now that republicans are the majority.

    • coppercarla November 2nd, 2014 at 4:39 pm

      I guess in your world it’s OK when they change the votes to Democrat, such as has happened in Illinois and Maryland so far? Don’t blame it on a single party, you mouth-breathing sycophant. Realize that the issue exists on both sides.

      And voter suppression? Bullsheet. That dawg don’t hunt.

      • Warren Senders November 2nd, 2014 at 4:51 pm

        Got a link to back up that assertion, coppercarla? Something that’s not just pulled off the front pages of Drudge or Breitbart?

        • coppercarla November 2nd, 2014 at 5:07 pm

          How about you provide proof OF voter supression?

          Asking me to prove a negative is almost impossible, as most people with a basic science and math backgroud understand. Why don’t you provide specific examples of the postive – of supression actually happening?

          Considering all the things that people need ID for for basic life in this country, saying someone can’t get ID if they’re a citizen is a pretty far stretch, and I have yet to hear of a case where someone couldn’t obtain ID on their own.

          Of course, unlike a lot of people, I don’t assume that just because someone is of a particular race or age group that they aren’t smart enough or resourceful enough to do what they need to do in order to function in society and carry out their duties as a citizen. If they want to vote, then they need to put on their big-girl and big-boy panties and get it done, and not complain that it was “too difficult.”

          • arc99 November 2nd, 2014 at 5:13 pm

            Unlike you and a lot of other people including apparently you, I consider a citizen actually being prevented from voting to be a much more serious problem, than non-existent fraud.

            It is not a far stretch at all to recognize there are lots of people who are unable to comply with these draconian laws.


            Olester McGriff, an African-American man, lives in Dallas. He has voted in several Texas elections. This year when he went to the polls he was unable to vote due to the new photo ID law. Mr. McGriff had a kidney transplant and can no longer drive; his driver’s license expired in 2008. He tried to get an ID twice prior to voting. In May, he visited an office in Grand Prairie and was told he could not get an ID because he was outside of Dallas County. In July, he visited an office in Irving and was told they were out of IDs and would have to come back another day.

            He is unable to get around easily. Mr. McGriff got to the polls during early voting because Susan McMinn, an experienced election volunteer, gave him a ride. He brought with him his expired driver’s license, his birth certificate, his voter registration card, and other documentation, but none were sufficient under Texas’s new photo ID requirement.

          • coppercarla November 2nd, 2014 at 5:18 pm

            Ok, this is a case of voter ID supression – it shouldn’t happen.

            I can point out many many cases of voter fraud with illegals voting, and people voting multiple times. Those are just as bad, because those votes cancel out legal voters who voted for the “other” candidate.

            The whole system if fubar’d.

          • arc99 November 2nd, 2014 at 5:20 pm

            If you can as you say point out many cases of fraud, why not do that instead of offering your unsubstantiated opinion?

          • Jake November 2nd, 2014 at 5:39 pm

            Tell you what – I’ll let you off easy – don’t point out “many many cases of voter fraud with illegals voting, and people voting multiple times.” – Just one – one? And, I’ll make it really easy – any century at all.

          • coppercarla November 2nd, 2014 at 5:47 pm

            “One example of voter fraud that the illegal vote generator from Cincinnati admits to includes “voting three times for a relative who has been in a coma since 2003,” reports the Enquirer. Richardson admitted to casting illegal ballots in 2008, 2011 and 2012 elections and she also admitted her motivation to commit the brazen vote tampering by voting for President Barack Obama twice.”


            And FWIW, (if any of you care), but someone with admin privileges is changing my comments on this page. It’s too bad that people can’t be open to a dialog and realize that the same things we accuse the other side of, our side is likely doing as well. Instead, it seems people only want to hear what supports their view.

            I’m not suprised that votes are being changed from Dem to Rep. Just as you shouldn’t be suprised that they’re changing from Rep. to Dem. It all needs to stop.

          • Carla Akins November 2nd, 2014 at 6:03 pm

            No one the admin side makes changes to a comment unless it’s related to adding an astrix in a foul word. For example; I could say your claim was full of sh*t. As a matter of fact, this is your only comment made on this site under an actual account, the others are anonymous and not verified through the Disqus system.

          • coppercarla November 2nd, 2014 at 6:10 pm

            The phrases [I got mine] was NOT something I put up there, nor was “but I sure can troll”. I absolutely DID NOT TYPE either of those phrases at the end of my comments. Also, I was not allowed to edit the comments to remove those phrases when I first saw them.

          • Carla Akins November 2nd, 2014 at 6:22 pm

            I can verify little with accounts unverified through Disqus (the guest accounts) But honestly, those that moderate here take the responsibility seriously and would not edit another’s comment in such a way. We may scold you or tell you to take your opinion elsewhere, but we’re all older than 12 and don’t behave in such a manner.

          • arc99 November 2nd, 2014 at 6:28 pm

            and we do appreciate your efforts Carla to keep the forum free of spammers and outright trolls. and the rest of the mods as well..

            even RJ…. :o)

          • Anomaly 100 November 2nd, 2014 at 8:46 pm

            Do you remember the Hello Kitty videos? Huh? HUH?

          • coppercarla November 3rd, 2014 at 10:37 pm

            I’m sorry, but I have to say that you’re wrong. I did not write those end snippets. My posts weren’t deleted as I had expected, but turned into guest account posts, so I wish you’d been able to view them prior to that.

          • Tammy Minton Haley November 3rd, 2014 at 8:06 pm


          • coppercarla November 3rd, 2014 at 9:00 pm

            And you’re one of the prime reasons that people on the left and people on the right can’t communicate. I’m willing to listen to you, but you won’t listen to me. How sad.

          • Tammy Minton Haley November 7th, 2014 at 5:35 pm

            you have nothing worthwhile to contribute…i don’t tolerate idiocy…

          • coppercarla November 7th, 2014 at 6:01 pm

            Bless your little heart, you are a special one, aren’t you?

            Thanks for proving my observation: if someone doesn’t agree with you completely, you don’t feel they have anything to contribute to the argument or to society in general. What a progressive, liberal viewpoint — it’s just brimming with acceptance, inclusion, and love of your fellow humans.

            I’ll pray for you. 🙂 Really, I will. So that you can open your mind and your heart to the viewpoints of others around you and at least be considering instead of so closeminded.

          • granpa.usthai November 4th, 2014 at 3:43 pm

            had the same feelings before, and weird notices like not self=at top, or some such stuff. Life does seem to get weird when traversing the fine line of a drunken stupor coma (hell, just look at the Alaskan Tundra criminal and her violent outburst) but if we keep looking at the brighter side of life, we’ll understand that full employment in a Chinese rice field does in fact make us co-helpers of Mitt’s offshore bank accounts – thus revealing the untruthfulness of the GOP propaganda of ‘self sufficient’! (just like the 2012 mudslide).

          • OldLefty November 2nd, 2014 at 6:04 pm

            The Wisconsin legislature is finalizing
            a bill to close ten Department of Motor Vehicle centers located in Democratic
            districts within the state. The money saved will be used to extend operating
            hours at DMV centers in Republican districts. These cuts come on the heels of
            new voter ID laws that require voters to present a state-issued photo
            identification card at the poll booths.

            • The new laws are likely to make it
            “significantly harder” for more than five million eligible voters — “mostly
            young, minority, and low-income voters as well as voters with disabilities” —
            to cast ballots in 2012. They point out that that number is “larger than the
            margin of victory in two of the last three presidential elections.”

            • “The states that have already cut
            back on voting rights will provide 171 electoral votes in 2012 — 63 percent of
            the 270 needed to win the presidency.”

            • Most of the 2012 battleground
            states have either passed or are considering new restrictions. Some that have
            passed them are considering passing even more.

            During the 2004 election GOP state parties, along with dozens of
            unidentified groups, launched similar “voter caging” efforts designed to challenge the eligibility of thousands of minority
            voters by accusing them of voter fraud. And in 2008, the Obama campaign sued
            the Michigan Republican Committee for collecting a
            list of foreclosures in an effort to challenge the residency, and
            eligibility, of voters who had lost their home in the housing crisis.

            SCANDAL: In an unprecedented politicization of the Justice Department,
            in 2006 the Bush White House fired US Attorney David Iglesias for refusing to
            prosecute voting fraud cases where little evidence existed.

            He said, There
            appears to be a growing body of evidence that suggests that there’s voter
            suppression going on throughout the country.

            – US ATTORNEY TOM
            HEFFELFINGER DISMISSAL: In Minnesota, US Attorney Tom Heffelfinger lost his
            position when he ran afoul of GOP activists for “expressing deep concern about
            the effect of a state directive that could have the effect of discouraging
            Indians in Minnesota from casting ballots.”

            ““I am not willing to defend them anymore,” Wisconsin state Sen. Dale Schultz, R-Richland Center,explained when Salvia asked why Republicans sought to limit the number of voting hours a municipality could offer. “I’m just not and I’m embarrassed by this.”

            Read more:

          • tracey marie November 2nd, 2014 at 6:51 pm

            liar, illegalks can not vote. Registration has to happen and that dog don’t hunt.

          • godlessveteran November 2nd, 2014 at 7:01 pm

            Then point them out, with sources cited.

          • arc99 November 2nd, 2014 at 5:16 pm

            the world does not revolve around what you personally “have yet to hear of”. I suggest you find better sources of information.


            Voters Turned Away Because of Texas Photo ID Law

            Brennan Center for Justice

            October 28, 2014

          • Anomaly 100 November 2nd, 2014 at 5:24 pm

            40,000 voters in Georgia alone:

            There’s your proof.

          • Warren Senders November 2nd, 2014 at 5:46 pm

            Um, YOU made an assertion, and I asked you to back it up:

            “I guess in your world it’s OK when they change the votes to Democrat, such as has happened in Illinois and Maryland so far?”

            So I guess you’re just blowin’ smoke.

          • Mike November 3rd, 2014 at 10:31 am

            Explain the new voter ID laws in only republican controlled states. Explain why they are attempting to cut early voting in those same states. Explain why Sunday voting is being attacked in those states. Explain why voting machine are in large urban areas are being reduced but in rural less populated areas they are being added for fast easy voting in the same states. We all should take issue with this. It’s bigger than republican or democrats. This is about disenfranchised citizens. I am an independent and have voted both ways. I look at the candidate not the party. A wise man once said, if you have you mind made up before you even know who the candidate will be, then you are an idiot. With that said I have looked at all the candidates in my state (GA). Voting one way all the way down the line. Right now the Republican here have lost all my confidence. All they want is to fight any progress and seems they are not concerned with the greater good of the country. The last 5 years while obama has been in office things got better and congress can not take credit for any of it because their main mission was failure for this president at all cost.

          • fahvel November 3rd, 2014 at 3:34 am

            you’re floundering there fool.

          • Mike November 3rd, 2014 at 10:14 am

            Republicans do better with less turn out
            Democrats do better when the more voters show up.
            Not hard to understand who’s suppressing the vote.

      • arc99 November 2nd, 2014 at 4:59 pm

        why is it that these “both sides do it” fairy tales trying to imply there is no difference between left and right, Democrat vs Republican never include facts to back up their opinions?

        tell this woman that dawg don’t hunt, you mouth-breathing sycophant.

        Topeka seniors shut out of primary by ID law, poll worker

      • OldLefty November 2nd, 2014 at 5:14 pm

        Of course there is voter suppression.

        But more reason to vote counting out of the hands of private companies and go to paper.

        Even if it takes a week to count the votes.

      • godlessveteran November 2nd, 2014 at 6:58 pm

        Has not happened. Cite your sources (LEGITIMATE sources), or GTFO.

  21. VIsidore` November 2nd, 2014 at 2:46 pm

    Didn’t I see this on the TV show Scandal? Fiction is reality sometimes.

  22. OooSillyMe November 2nd, 2014 at 2:53 pm

    This has happened before with the machines and yet somehow a solution can’t be found…….

    • fahvel November 3rd, 2014 at 3:31 am

      so wrapped up in fn technologie that the paper ballot has been lost – except in the rest of the world – take the time to see and count the votes accurately and then, and maybe only then, you can get rid of all the piddling right wing liars and probably the left wing lazies. Maybe.

      • OooSillyMe November 3rd, 2014 at 6:33 am

        We need to back to a paper ballot and no longer allow either side to run candidates who shouldn’t even be eligible to run for class clown……

  23. Corey James November 2nd, 2014 at 4:10 pm

    *Switches* (Title misspelled)

    I suspect we are going to see a lot more of this as the election goes on. Republicans will do ANYTHING to win.

  24. coppercarla November 2nd, 2014 at 4:41 pm

    Let’s be fair here, folks… We’ve got machines in Illinois and Maryland switching Republican votes to Democrat. So if you want to go blaming a single party for this, be sure to pick up your “I’m a Party Sycophant” sticker on the way out.

  25. rick dalton November 2nd, 2014 at 10:41 pm

    You really think that was and accident lmao the republican will lie cheat and commit voter fraud to win

    • rg9rts November 3rd, 2014 at 8:55 am

      Eat their young and sell their mothers

    • terfull November 3rd, 2014 at 1:07 pm

      Why do dead people only vote democrat?

      • granpa.usthai November 4th, 2014 at 3:15 pm

        Didn’t know Al Donnelly was a democrat, but if you’ve got the actual list – fire away!

    • R.J. Carter November 3rd, 2014 at 5:50 pm

      So who’s lying, cheating, and committing fraud in order to win in Illinois and Maryland?

      • granpa.usthai November 4th, 2014 at 3:12 pm

        love your source for information – next time use Limbaugh’s Viagra addicted rant (kinda like a topping) for BS pie.

  26. Robb November 3rd, 2014 at 12:27 am

    Pandering to the low information voter! The liberal way!! Educate yourself there are two actual accounts of voting machines changing votes but they were votes cast by republicans being changed to democrat votes in Maryland and Illinois. SMDH

    • rg9rts November 3rd, 2014 at 8:54 am

      And the gopee NEVER CHEATS…during the last POTUS election both cases of voter fraud was by the gopee in Virginia and Ohio

      Cheating the conservative nazi way

      • Chuck Weaver November 4th, 2014 at 8:44 pm

        I was going to try to educate people on this site but I realize that that would be impossible, so goodnight all.

        • rg9rts November 5th, 2014 at 1:22 am

          Good riddance..

    • Jimmy Cahill November 3rd, 2014 at 10:23 am

      What you’re talking about happened in 2012, and it was fixed.

    • granpa.usthai November 4th, 2014 at 3:09 pm

      uh, I think this post is about voting machines changing votes?

      being that you must be a high information (GOP BS Mass collector) voter – the LYING conservative way of course!

  27. rg9rts November 3rd, 2014 at 8:16 am

    The fix is in LOL

  28. Wizyrd November 3rd, 2014 at 10:11 am

    Sounds like s badly calibrated touch screen.

  29. Pilotshark November 3rd, 2014 at 10:56 am

    So my question would be, what about those 3 votes that when to Tillis? where they rejected? or is this guy now looking at voting 4 times?
    kind of makes you go mmmmmmmmm

  30. terfull November 3rd, 2014 at 1:06 pm

    I’m calling bull shite. Only democrats do that.

    • granpa.usthai November 4th, 2014 at 3:06 pm

      I’ll see your BS and triple the bet!

      NC Executive – REPUBLICAN
      NC Legislature – REPUBLICAN
      NC Judicial – REPUBLICAN

      candidate machine calibrated for – REPUBLICAN.

      • Chuck Weaver November 4th, 2014 at 8:23 pm

        and from i have read so far there are 2 instances? If you can cite more examples, please do.

      • terfull November 4th, 2014 at 10:52 pm

        Girl, you need to get your issues checked. Which party kept the State oppressed for over 100 years?

  31. R.J. Carter November 3rd, 2014 at 5:48 pm

    The same thing happened in Illinois, only in reverse order (Republican vote swapped over to Democrat candidate).

    It’s the Incumbent Party trying to stay in power.

  32. Chuck Weaver November 4th, 2014 at 8:20 pm

    “The problem is, there’s no telling how many incorrect votes were cast for Thom Tillis.” Apparently, this person doesn’t know how it works. All votes get a chance to “review their vote before they Confirm it If these are the only 2 that caught the switch, then we assume that either they were the only 2 that were paying attention or they were the only 2 that were switched by voting machine error. Whatever, there is no proof what so ever that the Republicans had anything to do with the malfunction, so “get over it.” lol

  33. Shetema Mac-Little November 5th, 2014 at 1:44 am

    Same thing happened to me yesterday.. I went back to review my selections and corrected the machine errors in hopes that it did correct itself.

  34. hawkj68 November 6th, 2014 at 9:28 am

    I live here and voted here…my votes were correct. It would be interesting to investigate whether or not this county’s votes were largely blue or largely red….its a definitely a BLUE county, so if its largely red based on votes, there was definitely a problem that went missed.

  35. Carla Akins November 6th, 2014 at 1:07 pm

    I’m sorry that you feel mistreated here or had a bad experience. It’s not so much that I don’t care but that there is no way to track in arrears what occurred. We have more conservative and libertarian readers that regularly comment and a conservative moderator that all engage civil and reasonable debate. It has been my experience that if you hold an opposing opinion, you may want to frame your post in a less adversarial position.