November 11, 2014 1:07 pm -

[su_right_ad]If only we could straighten out these “pathetic, self-defeating black[s],” Ben Stein would believe we have a better America. Oh, and it’s Obama’s fault

“If you read the liberal mainstream media, that the main problem with race in America was poor innocent black people being set upon and mistreated by the police,” Stein said on NewsMaxTV, commenting on a report that the mother of Michael Brown could face felony armed robbery charges for attacking people in Ferguson, Missouri. “That’s just nonsense.”

“I mean, the real problem with race in America is a very, very beaten-down, pathetic, self-defeating black underclass that is — uh, just can’t seem to get its way going in the way that blacks were able to before the scourge of drugs and the scourge of gangs.”…

“I mean, it’s an amazing thing — blacks were on their way in this country, even after the horrors of slavery, and then drugs came in, the destruction of families came in, and the crisis in the black community is just absolutely unbelievable. And that, it seems to me, is something that Mr. Obama could have addressed, and he just ignored it completely.”[su_csky_ad]

D.B. Hirsch
D.B. Hirsch is a political activist, news junkie, and retired ad copy writer and spin doctor. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.

39 responses to Ben Stein: America Has A ‘Pathetic, Self-Defeating Black Underclass’

  1. arc99 November 11th, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    “”And that, it seems to me, is something that Mr. Obama could have addressed, and he just ignored it completely.””
    Just like most of us black folks ignore clueless white right wingers like you Mr. Stein who have no idea WTF they are talking about.

    • Khary A November 11th, 2014 at 1:31 pm

      agreed in full.

    • tracey marie November 11th, 2014 at 2:13 pm

      and us white people ignore those types of white wingers

  2. Khary A November 11th, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    this guy…he gets it.

    • tiredoftea November 11th, 2014 at 4:55 pm

      If you’ve never heard Abbey Lincoln singing her adaptation of Maya Angelou’s, “I know why the caged bird sings”, you have not lived a full life.

  3. OldLefty November 11th, 2014 at 1:31 pm

    Obama has addressed a lot, including the biggest problem for black males, the private for profit prison system who have teamed up with the war on drugs.

    Oh wait… he’s just speaking to the echo chamber and not the public as a whole.

  4. FrankenPC . November 11th, 2014 at 1:32 pm

    Stein is the gift that keeps on giving!

    Ben. I’m going to suggest something crazy. Before you pass judgement, try to think about it first. Maybe… the problem… with blacks in America… is… PEOPLE LIKE YOU.

  5. Kim Serrahn November 11th, 2014 at 1:36 pm

    Why is that old white Jewish guy think they always know what’s best for the country.

    • Jerry Ericsson November 12th, 2014 at 10:53 am

      Hmm calling him a jew, isn’t that RACIST? Or perhaps NAZI?

      • Kim Serrahn November 12th, 2014 at 12:04 pm

        He’s Jewish, whats racist about that.

      • Carla Akins November 12th, 2014 at 12:50 pm

        No, it’s a completely accurate descriptor and not racist in context as she is describing Stein as an individual – not ascribing a an action to an entire group/race/sect of people. Although your follow comment has a valid point, I will never approve a comment to post using that word.

        • Jerry Ericsson November 12th, 2014 at 1:01 pm

          Somehow, I have to say, I was never, nor will I ever seek your approval. I am so damn tired of everyone trying to walk on egg shells to be sure not to hurt others feelings. If their feeling are that delicate they have no reason to be reading these politically charged postings. Words are words, and yes, having served on police forces across several states, and being a trained Legal Assistant, I am aware that there are indeed fighting words. That said, we are separated by not only miles, but also by the internet and a fight is not something that could happen; unless you consider the old term (flame war) a fight. So the neutral exchange of ideals over the web seems to be the purpose of this forum, and I am offering my words to be exchanged.

  6. Bunya November 11th, 2014 at 1:43 pm

    Poor Ben. A pathetic old man who’s trying so hard to stay relevant that he’s turned to judging people whose lifestyle he knows nothing about. It’s about time he was put out to pasture.

    • tiredoftea November 11th, 2014 at 4:28 pm

      He is out to pasture. It’s called NewsMax!

  7. fahvel November 11th, 2014 at 2:16 pm

    who is this person?

  8. viva_democracy November 11th, 2014 at 2:19 pm

    I just love it when old, white men try to analyze black men (rolls eyes).

  9. Russ Burgos November 11th, 2014 at 2:31 pm

    Gosh, Ben, you’re right! Things were so much better before those darn blacks got all self-defeating and whatnot. Why, here’s proof: in this photograph, which was taken long before “drugs came in,” a big group of conservative white folks from the Republican stronghold of Indiana — you know, Ben, the heartlanders, the Real Americans™ — are celebrating with a couple young African-American men whom they’d helped “on their way in this country.”

    • dragontech64 November 11th, 2014 at 7:42 pm

      God how I’d love to string every grinning white bastard in the picture up in that same tree. White as I am, this sort of racism sickens me.

  10. Maxx44 November 11th, 2014 at 2:42 pm

    The only thing this clown has ever done that anyone actually noticed was saying the name “Bueller” four times in a row. Who cares what he has to say now?

  11. William November 11th, 2014 at 4:21 pm

    Congrats on making the big time Ben.

  12. tiredoftea November 11th, 2014 at 4:57 pm

    Why, yes, Ben. And, you have helped to change that, haven’t you?

  13. Boehner-Monkey November 11th, 2014 at 5:13 pm

    This is proof that you can have a really high I.Q. and still be a dumb-ass.

    • rg9rts November 11th, 2014 at 6:08 pm

      He is not dumb …but played the conservative jew into $$$$$$$$$$$$$

  14. Dcbos November 11th, 2014 at 6:05 pm

    Are we talking about this Benny; =UTF-8

  15. rg9rts November 11th, 2014 at 6:07 pm

    This pontification from the pope of the ashkinazim and past Nixon speech writer

  16. Frank Harrison November 11th, 2014 at 7:00 pm

    Well, he’s right. Somebody in this forum, do tell me and everybody else what liberal policies and liberal government and progressive ideas have done FOR the black citizens of this country? Give me all of the proof positive accounts that have benefited the black citizens of this country. And yes, Chicago, and Detroit will be sitting proof of everything you can name. So, begin.

    • whatthe46 November 11th, 2014 at 7:15 pm

      and every president before him? what have they done period? and stop acting as though this man is responsible for solving every issue in this country. besides, everything he tries to acomplish, the WRNJ’s find a way to block his efforts. it bites your racist ass that he’s the president and that’s the bottom line. what have any white president done to stop white on black crime out of nothing more than hatred, racism and ignorance? police brutality? not a damn thing. so STFU!

    • tracey marie November 11th, 2014 at 7:15 pm

      why are you teabaggers so intent on dividing the country by color and hating by color

    • twocents November 11th, 2014 at 7:18 pm

      Tell me something republicans have done for blacks other than kill them off or send them to prison for profit. It would’ve helped to pass Obama’s jobs bills. At least more of them have healthcare thanks to Obama. They have My Brothers Keeper Bill thanks to Obama. Whenever President Obama does do something for blacks whiney ass republicans have a hissy fit whites aren’t included. What have YOU done if you care so much??

      • whatthe46 November 11th, 2014 at 7:50 pm

        don’t hold your breath for a reply. one that will make any sense anyway.

    • arc99 November 11th, 2014 at 8:12 pm

      Reviewing the history of our republic, liberal policies have given us these foundations for the progress we have made in the country so far.

      The Emancipation Proclamation (granddaddy of all executive orders)
      The 13th amendment
      The 14th amendment
      The 15th amendment
      Executive order 9981
      Brown v Board of education
      Civil Rights Act
      Public Accommodations Act
      Voting Rights Act
      Community Reinvestment Act

      Now you tell me why the f*ck black people should support conservatives when you guys were dancing your happy dance when the Supreme Court gutted the Voting Rights Act

      The VRA was passed under the explicit authority granted to Congress by the 15th amendment. In striking down key provisions of the law, the SCOTUS cited a rationale that appears nowhere in the US Constitution.

      Liberal Democrats may not be the perfect ally of the black community, but they sure as hell beat the alternative where the party celebrates the destruction of a law that addressed disenfranchisement which had endured for generations.

    • joe barry November 12th, 2014 at 7:42 am

      Not everyone has a father like Ben’s where he can pull strings for his son. And, Detroit is making a comeback – look it up!

  17. bigdawgman November 11th, 2014 at 7:09 pm

    I thought he was the President of the whole US, not just the poor blacks. And Obama has addressed some of the negative elements in our culture, but was ignored. Besides, the problem goes much deeper than the POTUS. This is going to take some time to fix itself, and it’s not going to go away completely. Besides, what is the President supposed to do about trigger-happy cops? That is for the state and local jurisdictions, not the federal government; it’s in the freaking constitution.

  18. twocents November 11th, 2014 at 7:13 pm

    No Mr Stein, the problem is old white men out of touch and without a clue. There are black people that could buy and sell your ass. If you can’t figure out something productive to say, keep your mouth shut.

  19. dragontech64 November 11th, 2014 at 7:35 pm

    So would tin-hat Stein explain how this scourge of drugs which hits WHITE communities just as prevalently, has only damaged black lives? I mean, other than the endemic racism in our police departments and government, social and business systems?

  20. pmbalele November 12th, 2014 at 1:28 am

    Ben Stein is weird as his voice. He does not know some federal district and appeal courts have KKK operatives. Some judges simply hate Blacks and especially Black males.

  21. joe barry November 12th, 2014 at 7:41 am

    Ben Stein has a face for radio, and this isn’t a slap to good looking talk show hosts like Alan. When the only acting job you can get is playing the nerd in Ferris B’s Day Off – he isn’t much in the acting and looks department. So how can anyone take what he has to saw about race relations, or past remarks about Trayvon Martin, seriously? Consider the course.

  22. arc99 November 12th, 2014 at 11:10 am

    And when Jim Crow segregation was finally ended, the segregationists became known as “Reagan Democrats”.

    You need to get your fucking history straight and come out of denial. It was CONSERVATIVES, regardless of party who were the die-hard racists.

  23. Russ Burgos November 12th, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    I do know my history, and the probability that the whites in this photograph, taken in Indiana in 1921, were Republicans is overwhelming. It was Confederates who founded the Klan during Reconstruction. The Reconstruction Klan died off, but the Klan had a “rebirth” after 1915 as a white, Protestant reaction — in the north and south — to immigration, especially to the immigration of Catholics, and to the issue of Prohibition (which had a large religious dimension).

    As for the state of Indiana, it has long been one of America’s most Republican of Republican states. The state’s government was dominated by the Republican Party for over 100 years after the election of Lincoln. From 1917 to 1933, every Governor of the state of Indiana was a Republican. And as every history of the Ku Klux Klan points out, the “second generation” Klan — the Klan of the 1920s, when this photograph was taken — was a Republican Klan rooted most powerfully in the northern states, especially Indiana, Maine, Colorado, and California (Orange County, California, a Republican stronghold since its founding, was also a Klan stronghold).

    In 1921, the Klan’s headquarters was moved to Indiana, and even the official state of Indiana history of the state of Indiana acknowledges that 30% of white men in Indiana were Klansmen at the height of the second-generation Klan. Even Indiana Governor Edward Jackson, a Republican, was an active Klansman while in office, and over 50% of all the Indiana General Assemblymen in the early 1920s were also active Klansmen.

    So my history’s pretty straight. Yours, apparently, not so much.