Austin Shooter Fired 100 Shots Into Downtown Buildings
An unidentified man, described as in his 50s with likely anti-government motivations which were possibly fueled by immigration, took to the streets of Austin, Texas while openly carrying his weapon.
Police say the man had targeted “multiple downtown buildings” in the gunfire before dawn, with about 100 shots ringing out into the dark streets.
[su_center_ad]Jesse Van Wallene, 29, told NBC News that he found himself around 15 feet away from the shooter when he stopped at a red light and spotted him with a “large gun in his hand.”
“He was in full gear so he didn’t seem like a civilian, but there was no writing on any of the equipment,” the restaurant server said.
“It seemed like he was wearing a bullet-proof vest,” he added.
As Governor Elect Abbott and other lawmakers are working to expand the open carry of guns in the state it remains unclear how private citizens and law enforcement officers are supposed to be able to tell the difference between the “good guys with guns” and the “bad guys with guns”.
Abbott meets with Ted Nugent
Somehow, we’re supposed to know that these anti-government types are not the same as the other anti-government types.
So far, the “more guns” rhetoric hasn’t panned out too well.
In Texas, for example, there is no requirement to adhere to a background check or any weapons training to carry these loaded rifles in public. There is also no age limit.
Some groups have targeted Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America over their actions in seeking Kroger to change its policies in regards open carry in its stores.
The man in the image below, Kory Watkins, was seen carrying a loaded AK47 inside a Kroger store in Mansfield, Texas.
As for the Austin shooter, Police and FBI agents are still trying to determine a motive. Police Chief Art Acevedo said the shooter could be “anti-government” or have a political agenda based on his apparent targets: government buildings and police.
“The national debate today about immigration, that certainly comes to mind,”
Acevedo said. “Political discourse becomes very heated, sometimes very angry. The rhetoric is not healthy.”
I agree. It’s time for Kroger to wake up.
Personally, I’m sick of the self-serving extremists who believe the Second Amendment was created to scare the shit out of the public. We deserve to feel safe.
Big thanks to my pal out there whose anonymity will be respected here.
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Obewon November 28th, 2014 at 3:56 pm
Open Carry gun nuts are suicidal. It’s a good thing gun friendly stores like Kroger’s were closed or this domestic terrorist wishes of becoming another mass-murderer would be delivered.
Open Carry Texas Kory Watkins shops for diapers carrying a loaded AK47 inside a Kroger store in Mansfield, Texas. Paranoid Gun nuts soil lots of diapers.
Ol Blue November 28th, 2014 at 4:24 pm
Mostly their own.
derek November 29th, 2014 at 3:41 am
Where does this say ANYTHING that this dude was a “open carry advocate”….nowhere. Its just mixed in this hack article to abuse an incident for your stupid agenda
Obewon November 29th, 2014 at 5:18 am
Like the suicidal gun nut, you too seem likely an unbalanced Open Carry ‘avocado as the Austin PD’s preliminary investigation proves! Instead of proving to everyone what teeny weenies you paranoids have, maybe modern technology can help! Like Paul Ryan you too can drive the Oscar Mayer Wienermobile to overcompensate for your shortcomings!
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 2:55 pm
LOL at the penis fixation and those who suffer.
Martin Cohn November 30th, 2014 at 10:11 pm
You equate ownership of firearms to having small penises?
Tell me more about how you have firsthand experience in measuring firearm owners’ junk…
Obewon November 30th, 2014 at 11:00 pm
Ask ‘smallPenisGunClub’ charter member Sen. (R-TX) Ted Cruz’ Website Reads ‘ http://smallPenisGunClub.com/ ‘
http://www.alan.com/2013/03/29/hacked-sen-ted-cruzs-website-reads-smallpenisgunclub-com/
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 3:59 am
When you resort to insults it shows you guys have nothing left
mea_mark November 29th, 2014 at 9:34 am
Really, more than likely he was a three percenter.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 2:49 pm
You can do better than that, tie him to Ron Paul and Mother Teresa.
mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 2:57 pm
Like this http://www.alan.com/2014/11/29/austin-shooter-stop-buying-other-people-stuff-with-my-tax-money/ Well, Ron Paul at least.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 3:18 pm
Have you checked Santa’s FB page lately? He’s real too I’m told and pro gun.
mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 4:34 pm
Along with GOP Jesus too. Yeah, whatever you say …
Rob Doyon November 30th, 2014 at 6:08 pm
I haven’t seen anything on the official report that even hints at his knowing any open carry activists. Why use open carry activist photos and not photos of the guy that shot the building?
mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 6:23 pm
At the time of the story there weren’t any. Do you ever look at dates or notice how old some of the earliest comments are, or is living in an oblivious state something you desire? One of the points of the story was that you can’t tell an Open Carry ammosexual from a bad person with a gun. They look the same. It is really an incredibly simple concept to grasp. I really don’t understand why the gunnuts and ammosexuals don’t get it, a person with a gun is a person with a gun. It is not known what their intentions are and the more of them out there the more dangerous it is, because … wait for it … guns are instruments of death.
whatthe46 November 30th, 2014 at 6:47 pm
whoosh! any cyber bucks you wanna bet that went over his head?
Obewon November 30th, 2014 at 8:37 pm
“Wrong on the open carry not causing loss of life. I do know there was a gentleman who open carried his assault rifle to a family cookout and he laid it on a table. His young nephew picked it up, was playing with it and the child shot and killed his own grandfather. There are more, I am sure, not all having to do with violence, I imagine a fair share of them having to do with carelessness and stupidity.” — Margie Bateman Osgood http://disq.us/8l5uu2 Open carry gun nuts have shot and killed many e.g. Guns and Ammo Editor, etc.
Austin Shooter: ‘Stop Buying Other People Stuff With My Tax Money!’ http://www.alan.com/2014/11/29/austin-shooter-stop-buying-other-people-stuff-with-my-tax-money/ 2 days ago this Austin teabagg shooter and supporter of (R-TX) Ron Paul bio & picture wasn’t available.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 3:57 am
Kory Watkins is an IDIOT and does NOT speak for the masses. Kory is doing more to damage the open carry movement than the MOMMIES are
TD1 November 28th, 2014 at 3:57 pm
Yaaaaaaaay prejudice!
tracey marie November 28th, 2014 at 3:58 pm
against whom?
TD1 November 28th, 2014 at 4:01 pm
Don’t play dumb.
“with LIKELY anti-government motivations”
“which were POSSIBLY fueled by immigration”
Might as well have a story about a robbery and claim the the suspect “MIGHT HAVE been black.”
Obviously prejudicial. But, feel free to pretend it’s not. You’ll look very intelligent doing so
tracey marie November 28th, 2014 at 4:03 pm
so you are trolling…thought so.
TD1 November 28th, 2014 at 4:06 pm
Ah. Pointing out prejudice is trolling. Good to know.
GDleftyPart2 November 28th, 2014 at 4:07 pm
When will you be pointing out the police chief is the prejudiced one then….
TD1 November 28th, 2014 at 4:09 pm
I’ll point it out right now, if that’s the case. Should’ve used quotes.
GDleftyPart2 November 28th, 2014 at 4:12 pm
Yep and you could have attributed those quotes too.
TD1 November 28th, 2014 at 4:13 pm
I quoted the article, which didn’t use quotes. Why would I assume the police chief said this?
GDleftyPart2 November 28th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
It’s in the article maybe…..assuming or reading?
As for the Austin shooter, Police and FBI agents are still trying to determine a motive. Police Chief Art Acevedo said the shooter could be “anti-government” or have a political agenda based on his apparent targets: government buildings and police.
derek November 29th, 2014 at 3:39 am
you are a bunch of hacks….”likely” ..”possibly” ..and not even knowing who that man is and YOU make an…uuhhhh…”anti government open carry activist” out of him in the absence of any facts that support these claims?
That is a fucking joke man. Just admit this is just a contrived article.
GDleftyPart2 November 29th, 2014 at 10:04 am
Gee Derek, allow the police chief the ability to speculate, much like you are doing now….
Texas, lots of ammo, shooting at gubmint buildings…..should we ignore the police on the ground involved in the investigation?
Like I told the other fondler, I didn’t write this article and the actual person, obvious commie with her links and stuff, is actually responding directly to you knobs. Bless her heart.
Shouldn’t you be outside a Shoneys somewhere menacing people with your matte black manhood?
Anomaly 100 November 28th, 2014 at 4:16 pm
Reading is hard. FTA:
“Police Chief Art Acevedo said the shooter could be “anti-government” or have a political agenda based on his apparent targets: government buildings and police.”
Also, the story is linked. You’re welcome!
GDleftyPart2 November 28th, 2014 at 4:21 pm
What is this “links” business?
Some sort of commie facts database…..
GreatLakeSailor November 29th, 2014 at 2:34 pm
Breakfast sausage…right?
TD1 November 28th, 2014 at 4:11 pm
And “open carry”? LOL. Give me a break. Who said this guy is an open carry advocate? Because he was openly carrying while trying to murder? lol. If he was wearing Levi’s, will an article be written disparaging Levi wearers?
GDleftyPart2 November 28th, 2014 at 4:14 pm
Nobody said he was with OCT but I have no issues showing photos of the gun fondlers known as OCT with a story like this since they are vocal about their toys and have no problem terrorizing average citizens.
Maybe if OCT would have been the good guys with the guns a police officer wouldn’t be on administrative leave this morning…
TD1 November 28th, 2014 at 4:17 pm
It’s obvious you have no problem showing them. When you write an article about a robbery, do you just post stock pictures of black people, too? If there is no connection, what’s the point of attaching it to a story about this guy? Go ahead and pretend it isn’t prejudicial….but it is.
GDleftyPart2 November 28th, 2014 at 4:20 pm
Go ahead and pretend I wrote this article, hell the author is actually responding to you dingus.
You keep railing about the police chief speculating this gun fondler shooting at gubmint buildings WASN’T a gun fondler with an open hate of the gubmint…..
TD1 November 28th, 2014 at 4:43 pm
So, the police chief didn’t say a thing about this guy being an open carry advocate, yet more than half the article goes on about that. Right, it’s not prejudicial…got it.
Anomaly 100 November 28th, 2014 at 4:47 pm
Oh my god, you’re so stupid it hurts.
FTA:
“..he found himself around 15 feet away from the shooter when he stopped at a red light and spotted him with a “large gun in his hand.”
TD1 November 28th, 2014 at 4:52 pm
Because he didn’t keep the gun in a bag as he shot, he is an open carry advocate? Sounds legit. Good on you. Not prejudicial. My bad.
Anomaly 100 November 28th, 2014 at 5:25 pm
He was carrying his gun openly. Did I type that slowly enough for you?
It’s true, I am prejudiced against your ilk. I don’t like anyone that enters family friendly restaurants with rifles strapped to their backs while parents are trying to enjoy time with their children.
GDleftyPart2 November 28th, 2014 at 5:37 pm
I kind of appreciate the open carry dopes here, they have given up their element of surprise while I have not….
Anomaly 100 November 28th, 2014 at 5:39 pm
Also, they make the rest of us look like geniuses.
GDleftyPart2 November 28th, 2014 at 5:36 pm
I’ll bow to your superior intellect then…he was just an average Texan out exercising his second amendments rights bestowed upon him by gawd or mortal men and decided to shoot up the joint. We should all be praising him for taking that officers bullets like a man.
Are you afraid that the movement threatening moms in a restaurant may get some bad press?
Why are open carry folks and I’ll just assume you are one based on your problem with the article, such bad*sses with their prosthetic peckers usually such GD whiners?
Toughen up man!!!11!!!!
Rob Doyon November 30th, 2014 at 5:50 pm
Enjoying the gun rights we are born with has nothing to do with this criminal. The author will be financially punished for slander/defamation of character.
Christine Akers November 29th, 2014 at 11:34 pm
Whether he’s an open carry advocate or not, it’s the open carry nutjobs who have created an environment that made it possible for him to walk down the street fully armed and not be questioned until he opened fire.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 2:27 pm
How convenient! What about everyone walking around who may or may not have a lawfully concealed weapon? OH NOEZ!
R.J. Carter November 28th, 2014 at 4:06 pm
The comments are certainly speculative, but they’re the quotes of the police chief, not the author.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 2:42 pm
I think folks are upset that he uses them to bash a minority group he doesn’t like.
mea_mark November 28th, 2014 at 3:58 pm
Anomaly, are you trying to hurt the fee fees of the open carry groups again? You know how sensitive they are about bad pr.
R.J. Carter November 28th, 2014 at 4:03 pm
Getting traffic on Black Friday is hard if you’re not selling something. I don’t blame her for going for the easy layup. 🙂
Carla Akins November 28th, 2014 at 4:07 pm
Perfectly legitimate story, being carried by all news agencies. They just don’t all have Anomaly’s special style.
R.J. Carter November 28th, 2014 at 4:08 pm
Or her special history that lands her on all the special watch lists. 🙂
Carla Akins November 28th, 2014 at 4:09 pm
Shush, we’re not supposed to talk about that.
Anomaly 100 November 28th, 2014 at 4:14 pm
Y’all know that I can read this, right?
R.J. Carter November 28th, 2014 at 4:15 pm
I knew I should have put a “.” in front of my @Carla.
Anomaly 100 November 28th, 2014 at 4:17 pm
Try to get it right next time!
tiredoftea November 28th, 2014 at 4:04 pm
It looks to me like the only freedumb Kory boy is displaying is his bad taste in clothing.
GDleftyPart2 November 28th, 2014 at 4:06 pm
The hat…it angers some people…..
tiredoftea November 28th, 2014 at 4:35 pm
The shorts, the striped shirt, the entitled mentality, the lack of understanding of the issue. The list goes on.
M D Reese November 28th, 2014 at 4:39 pm
Yep–he’s just one kool dude…
Ol Blue November 28th, 2014 at 6:26 pm
Maybe that’s why he carries the gun, tired of getting beat up over the hat.
StoneyCurtisll November 28th, 2014 at 7:47 pm
I have seen images of starving children in Africa with better taste in clothing..
GreatLakeSailor November 29th, 2014 at 2:25 pm
He’s a Trilbilly.
M D Reese November 28th, 2014 at 4:35 pm
Gee–I feel soooo much safer just knowing that these open carry good guys are out there protecting our freedom…
tiredoftea November 28th, 2014 at 4:35 pm
Or corn chips and dip.
M D Reese November 28th, 2014 at 4:37 pm
Oh–I thought it was oreos and milk?
tiredoftea November 28th, 2014 at 5:36 pm
It’s the football bowl season. A vigilante gots to have priorities! Go’Bama!
Daniel Kalban November 28th, 2014 at 7:02 pm
Why aren’t they arresting this domestic terrorist?
Seriously, the gun nuts need to be muzzled and restrained as they are rapidly becoming a threat to public safety.
Sherri G November 29th, 2014 at 10:56 am
They killed him!
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 2:44 pm
Yes, with guns!
Sherri G November 30th, 2014 at 3:02 pm
What’s your point?
StoneyCurtisll November 29th, 2014 at 10:57 am
No need for an arrest..
He’s dead.
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 12:23 pm
Please go to the NYT article that heads “What’s Next”. It takes comments.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 3:54 am
You guys are the threat to public safety
Kim Serrahn November 28th, 2014 at 9:39 pm
Man walk in front of building with gun, opens fire, given ticket for littering after forgetting to pick up all his brass. Police meet up with shooter at nearby waffle house to exchange hunting stories.
liberalMD November 29th, 2014 at 1:16 am
Geesh…..what more rights do gun owners in Texas want? The only right they don’t have is to shoot someone….and depending on which part of Texas you’re in they can do that if the person belongs to certain minority groups.
Martin Cohn November 30th, 2014 at 11:38 am
Actually pretty easy to answer. We want the rights guaranteed by the Constitution of the United States.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 2:43 pm
So what would you do if you woke up and someone was in your house robbing on you, feed them dinner?
derek November 29th, 2014 at 3:34 am
“likely” ?!….”possibly”…?!
So in other words you just implying that “anti goverment” rah rah in the absence of any facts.
What a load of contrived and obvious bullshit you people pull here. One must be half way brain dead to feed into such drivel
allison1050 November 29th, 2014 at 7:32 am
You’re funny thanks. ;o)
Anomaly 100 November 29th, 2014 at 9:17 am
Oh for fuck’s sake. It’s a quote from the police.
StoneyCurtisll November 29th, 2014 at 10:55 am
Shooting at government buildings, in it’s self implies that the shooter had anti-government inclinations…
Maybe that is something you are incapable of grasping.
fahvel November 29th, 2014 at 11:29 am
fool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
allison1050 November 29th, 2014 at 7:32 am
I guess those buildings must have really pissed him off and he showed ’em that he’s not to be toyed with,,,Take that you gd building!
StoneyCurtisll November 29th, 2014 at 10:52 am
Good thing building dont shoot back…
No wonder this right wing loser chose them as targets.
Michael Pittman November 29th, 2014 at 11:44 am
[whispering] His anti-government leanings must not be mentioned. It might upset other “patriots” with anti-government leanings. They hate it when fingers are pointed at them. Only they can point fingers. Be respectful.
mea_mark November 29th, 2014 at 12:04 pm
IT’S THE III%ers AT WORK.
Anomaly 100 November 29th, 2014 at 2:59 pm
He was a Ron Paul supporter, holla! (I saw it on his Facebook page, and you can check Breitbart Unmasked).
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 2:09 pm
You are connecting this to Ron Paul, really? You think maybe Jesus Christ had something to do with this too? You must believe your own bullshit. I hope you don’t consider what you do as journalism.
Anomaly 100 November 30th, 2014 at 4:34 pm
Actually I don’t. I’m a blogger. I joke around with our readers in the comments though because I really like them. I know, that’s crazy, HUH?
Michael Pittman November 29th, 2014 at 11:44 am
[whispering] His anti-government leanings must not be mentioned. It might upset other “patriots” with anti-government leanings. They hate it when fingers are pointed at them. Only they can point fingers. Be respectful.
John_St_John November 29th, 2014 at 12:26 pm
Only a matter of time. Clock is ticking and I guarantee you all, popcorn is not going to be an option.
annaaurora November 29th, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Hey it’s what TX wants it’s what MO wants. It’s what’s wrong with this country. This is why Ferguson is out there. You don’t think that police would think differently, be trained differently if we didn’t condone this type of behavior towards guns? The racism surrounded around guns and the 2A rednecks, hillbilly assholes that think only of themselves and their real need for bloodlust and as I have witnessed a lot since on Twitter that the only way to really make change is through a bullet. They have laws in many states including FL. and GA. that are virtually state sanctioned licenses to murder provided you’re the right color and possibly doing a crime against the right color. We need to change this. It’s over CJ Grisham.
Martin Cohn November 30th, 2014 at 11:37 am
Congratulations, this has got to be the dumbest thing I’ve read on the internet today.
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 11:44 am
Glad you like it.
Martin Cohn November 30th, 2014 at 12:24 pm
Just remember no matter how much you wine piss and moan won’t ever trump our Constitutionally protected Civil Right.
mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 12:38 pm
You mean your delusions. What you think is a right is nothing more than an interpretation. Interpretations can change.
Martin Cohn November 30th, 2014 at 1:58 pm
Nope and that is where you are wrong. An inalienable is just that. But hey lets play…after all those other rights/interpretations can change according to you.
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mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 2:14 pm
What are you talking about?
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 3:53 am
Your future………..
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 2:40 pm
LMAO!!!
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 3:53 am
Nailed it!!
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 1:59 pm
I rest my case.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 3:52 am
No you are wrong, there is no amending the 2nd Amendment, there is no interpretation, it is what it is. Our Bill of Rights are not rights at all. Our Bill of Rights are a clear red line drawn in the sand and reminds the government there are limits.
Any amending that 2nd Amendment will be dealt with by force
SUPER 68 IS DOWN November 30th, 2014 at 12:29 pm
You and your MDA hate group are comical. Listen, this issue is over when we say it’s over. You all continually decline invitations to debate our respective positions.
Listen closely Anna, you and your fellow MDA members will NEVER succeed in disarming nor restricting access to OUR firearms.
you folks lost your credibility a long time ago and more and more people see that you guys have NO clue as to what you speak.
Oh yah, I almost forgot, you all remember that so called HUGE victory in Washington state that you guys claim as your own I-594?
Guess what? A lawsuit has already been filed for I-594 being unconstitutional and WILL be overturned
In closing Anna, you are correct that this issue is indeed over……but only for you and your MDA HATE group.
I love that Kroger has continued to ignore your group’s demands .
mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 12:36 pm
Be more careful or you will be banned. Dissenting opinions are welcome but attacks on regular readers here is not.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 1:59 pm
Dissenting opinions are not welcome here, they are attacked. It’s like a troll feeding frenzy.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN November 30th, 2014 at 2:22 pm
Fair enough. Nevertheless, I didn’t intend to attack anyone and I can’t find the offending material. Regardless, I appreciate that you all allow dissenting opinions from the other side, that is admirable
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 12:55 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjFGA6uZBg
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 1:54 pm
If you are not a Texan, you really should STFU about issues that do not concern you unless you either can’t help it or you are paid to demonize guns and those who own them.
rg9rts November 29th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
Just about the best entrant to date for the NRA shooter of the month award…if for any other reason, just the volume of shots fired…at least a honorable mention…
janice sexton November 29th, 2014 at 2:51 pm
Everybody needs guns.If you take the guns away any country can take us over.
mea_mark November 29th, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Yeah, those nuclear missiles can’t do a thing. It is up to those rednecks and right -wingers with all their guns to defend this nation from the attacking hordes. /s
Bill Benson November 30th, 2014 at 11:09 am
Umm, no, but the Veterans in the crowd might have something to say about it…
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 12:00 pm
Well Bill that’s why we have the Marines, Army, Navy, National Guard who are paid and took an Oath. One Oath.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 1:51 pm
Don’t leave out the Trolls, they get paid to fight too 😉
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 1:55 pm
I am paid for … wha?
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 3:50 am
Yes I took that oath as well and I still follow that oath. Yes understand very clearly that I and others will defend the Constitution against all enemies foreign AND Domestic
Bill Benson December 1st, 2014 at 3:11 pm
Yeah, we took an oath, and it didn’t expire when we were honorably discharged… Something about “to support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign AND domestic, and to bear true faith and allegiance to the same…” which includes all those pesky personal Rights with which you folks seem to take issue.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN November 30th, 2014 at 2:45 pm
How is it you warn me about attacking others yet you are here name calling
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 3:31 pm
Mutually assured destruction yeah that’s totally realistic. With a gun someone can say “do as I say or I will kill you'” but with a nuke some leader can say “do as I say or I will kill us all!”. Great example.
mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 4:33 pm
I guess you missed the point about the Government having vastly superior forces.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 3:48 am
I guess you haven’t noticed that the Taliban and Iraqi insurgents have been playing havoc with our military. I can say that because I was there and I spilled blood.
God forbid our government goes crazy and we are pitted against government forces, guerilla warfare can and will be the order of the day
musikfanat22 November 29th, 2014 at 4:46 pm
madness…
Hass November 30th, 2014 at 3:25 am
Ahahaha!
Jason Dildilian November 30th, 2014 at 10:00 am
If he is unidentified how can u tie his affiliation with any group jw
mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 10:11 am
I think that is the point. How can you tell a good guy carrying a gun from a bad guy carrying a gun, they look the same?
Jason Dildilian November 30th, 2014 at 10:59 am
Well if u cant tell the difference i truely feel bad for u. Its not hard to see lol . Nore then likely this giy was not affiliated with anyone other then himself and if a citizen that was carrying was around i bet he would not have gotten near as many rounds js
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 12:11 pm
2A lovers logic. This is why it’s enough. You all need your toys be gone. You’re getting close. You do realize you’re part of this protest don’t you or are you that dumb. Think long and hard. It’s called critical thinking. Look at your photos on the web. Not seeing two colors in harmony. Not seeing flags hanging together. You fucked up.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN November 30th, 2014 at 12:36 pm
Our toys need to be taken? How much money are you going to pay the poor bastards tasked with disarming 120+ million gun owners and roughly 300 million firearms?
We FUCKED up how Anna? Of course like all MDA members, you will run from our questions and thus we will NOT hear from you for awhile
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 1:08 pm
You keep ramming this down people’s throats and making this a religious experience, babies keep on dying, rogue groups like the Oath Keeper and your Sheriff’s not cooperating, actually not doing their jobs by not putting info in the FBI system to gather information on rogue/bad gun owners. People are getting tired. Your inability to realize that white America constitutes not all America. And not all white Americans are jumping on your sad red wagon of America. Women don’t like getting beaten, women don’t like guns. Kids like education, people like real education. People like all people, not just red necks that listen to country music. People who are good are good people. We don’t need a gun in case. I just realized something while I’ve been thinking about this mess you all created. In this war I need not excuse any of my thoughts with an if, or a but, or a could. It is in fact an IS for all reasons.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN November 30th, 2014 at 2:34 pm
Women do NOT like guns? Uhm, my wife is an avid shooter. Many firearms enthusiasts are women
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 3:36 pm
Ditto. I’ll bet you a dollar not one of these haters has ever been to a range. It’s a cultural thing, and they take great delight in attacking things they don’t understand. I pity them their helplessness and dependence on others for protection.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 4:08 am
The funny part is because they have the internet, TV, the cops, ovens, heaters, cell phones, that things will always be OK. I am a FEMA and DoD contractor and I hold a Bachelor’s in Emergency Management / Counter-Terrorism. All it would take for the entire country to collapse into chaos and anarchy is to lose OUR power grid for a measly 30 days.
Actually our Military has just testified on Capital Hill that the Chinese have the capability to destroy our power grid.
These liberal folks don’t have a clue as to what will happen in the aftermath of a major catastrophe. They will be among the first to perish as they will rely on the Police and the government to protect them. Look what happened in the aftermath of Katrina/Rita, over a third of NOLA PD abandoned their posts and fled the city.
I have been on the ground in these and other catastrophic events and it was and will be hell on earth.
I guarantee not a single liberal here on this thread has ever been through a major event. If they had, they would not be mocking us right now
SUPER 68 IS DOWN November 30th, 2014 at 2:43 pm
Your words below:
People who are good are good people. We don’t need a gun in case. I just realized something while I’ve been thinking about this mess you all created. In this war I need not excuse any of my thoughts with an if, or a but, or a could.
You state you don’t need a gun in case. What would you do in the aftermath of a nationwide catastrophe? With looters roaming the streets freely and unabated, how will you protect yourself?
The police cannot protect you……
I am a federal contractor through FEMA and the NFIP. I am also a federal security contractor for the Department of Defense
I was on the ground in the aftermath of hurricane Katrina. It was literally hell on earth and groups of criminals ruled the cities preying upon those without the means to protect themselves. Sad part is over 1/3 rd of the New Orleans Police Department abandoned their posts and fled the city.
As a FEMA contractor the talking points are citizens having the means to be on their own for up to 72 hours.
However I can tell you first hand that being on your own for up to 240 hours is more real;istic
Kenneth Paul November 30th, 2014 at 10:27 pm
anna thinks she speaks for all americans when the reality is a woman can only speak for herself. any thing else is an illusion of grandeur.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
This troll hates flags. ^^
Jason Dildilian November 30th, 2014 at 2:13 pm
Wtf are u rambling about lol. We are tslking about an article of propaganda thst eas written and ur reply is about flags and protests? Lol give ur medication 20 more minutes to kick in good then maybe u can respond with a lucid argument or comment 🙂
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 6:13 am
Nobody is taking our firearms/toys or whatever you want to call them.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 6:16 am
Would ANY of you folks for gun control be willing to have an open discussion? This will NEVER get resolved with the vitriol spewing back and forth. Both sides are guilty of the name calling and what not but a debate would be a welcome reprieve from the tensioned filled rhetoric. There is no problem with debate, even a spirited debate
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 11:51 am
They won’t go for a costume I asked a year ago when I was on attack on the Target FB page. You know the anti O/C B.S.
SUPER 68 IS DOWN November 30th, 2014 at 12:05 pm
You can’t as it is none of your business. Even the cops are not allowed to verify whether someone is legally able to have possession of ANY firearm. They CANNOT detain you just because they spotted your firearm(s) and thus have no right to ask for identification.
Good guy vs bad guy:
The good guy/gal walks into a store with a firearm in a holster. The bad guy/gal walks into a store with firearm in hand.
Another method is IF you are still alive, you can be fairly certain he/she is NOT a bad guy
Kenneth Paul November 30th, 2014 at 10:23 pm
by their actions. the bad gun carrier will be the one violating the law. the good gun carrier will be upholding the law. next rhetorical question…..
mea_mark December 1st, 2014 at 9:21 am
You can’t tell the difference until somebody breaks the law, until then they look the same. And how do I know the good guy with a gun will actually uphold the law and not just do something stupid because of lack of training? Too many people with guns that don’t know how to use them properly and have no idea as to what to actually do in a crises situation.
Kenneth Paul December 15th, 2014 at 9:12 pm
same as the passing motorist in a vehicle until you pass you don’t know their intention skill level impairment etc yet you pass literally thousands of others driving each day without whining your concerns for your safety and every day in the uSA there are head on collisions. no body wants to eliminate cars from the world..
Kenneth Paul January 8th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
how do i know you are not a felonious criminal and lost your first amendment right to free speech?
mea_mark January 8th, 2015 at 7:30 pm
You don’t, but I am not carrying a gun that can blow you away, big difference.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 3:38 pm
With the power of Liberal Socialist magic Jason, it’s magic.
Difster November 30th, 2014 at 10:53 am
What seems obvious to me is that the guy went downtown when there wasn’t really anyone around and shot at government building when they were closed in order to get himself shot to death by cops. He had “Let me die” written on his chest. He was suicidal. He shot the government building because they were likely to be unoccupied and he was trying to get a reaction from police (which he got).
There’s no indication at all that he’s an Open Carry advocate or anti-government.
Look, you people bash us “gun nuts” (actually, we like the term ammosexual, it’s funny) but if we were the violent psychopaths you imagine us to be, you’d be dead already. The number of guns continues to grow while the homicide rate continues to drop. Oh,and pro-tip, more people are murdered with hammers than rifles. Another hint, more than 50% of murders are committed by blacks who are less than 15% of the population.
You idiots aren’t anti-gun, you just want government to have all the guns. You’re idiots because you want government to have a monopoly on force. And that has worked SO well in other countries.
Carla Akins November 30th, 2014 at 11:57 am
I was fine with your opposing gun argument, and then had to go racist.
Difster November 30th, 2014 at 11:58 am
What’s racist about pointing out facts? I was merely pointing out that it’s not white guys with rifles that people generally need to be afraid of because in the overall crime picture, it’s a statistically low number.
But I guess facts are racist now.
Enjoy your fucking echo chamber.
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 12:06 pm
My post was so good though. I’m a self admirer.
Carla Akins November 30th, 2014 at 12:36 pm
Your post was perfect.
Paully Dee November 30th, 2014 at 1:17 pm
You’re nothing but a pathetic troll
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 1:34 pm
Ditto
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 11:32 am
He was not part of our open carry group that is an out right lie, and you should be getting sued for slander now.
mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 11:40 am
They should try and sue. Sounds like a great way to use up resources foolishly.
derek November 30th, 2014 at 11:44 am
Regardless of it, Johnnie is right. This article is a flatouthit piece with mostly contrived content.
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 12:03 pm
We have law students that walk with us.
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 12:13 pm
Ooooo. Plautz zee pantz.
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 11:48 am
any press is good press am I right…
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 12:16 pm
Come on didn’t you folks want this. A race riot. You’ve been whining. You certainly aren’t walking with protesters about Voting abuses so don’t cry about you’re about constitutional abuses because you’re not. You’re not protesting for a woman’s right to choose. You’re not worried about education.
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 12:28 pm
No we don’t want a race riot, did they drop you on the head as a baby?
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 12:34 pm
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjFGA6uZBg
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 3:44 am
What voting abuse? That folks are required to show ID?
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 11:59 am
None of us from CATI or OCT knew Steve McQuilliams and we don’t condone his actions, we embrace having a good working relationship with the Austin Police Dept. mark my word if CATI or OCT.had there we would have helped the police.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 3:51 pm
No one in the ren circuit is claiming to know him from the Kansas faires either and he has been linked to that already. Apparently the shooter Mcquilliams served as a volunteer for a belly dancing troupe. Looking like an operation to demonize open carry and provide leverage against or at the very least influence Governor elect Abbott’s plan to sign OC into law in early 2015. The timing is right on.
kimmyyyyyyyyyyyyy November 30th, 2014 at 12:03 pm
This is so wrong making up lies like this ……….how can these poeple sleep at night i have waked with COME AND TAKE IT AUSTIN for over a year now …….and i have no clue who this guy is ………….just because he has guns that means we all must know each other NO that is not what it means
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 12:19 pm
Hey these are the folks you embolden everyday.
Paully Dee November 30th, 2014 at 1:16 pm
Just trying to feed into the fear eh?
annaaurora November 30th, 2014 at 1:33 pm
I leave it up to you creeps.
Martin Cohn November 30th, 2014 at 2:05 pm
Come on, what no blood in the streets, or wild wild west, or blood of innocents to dance on today. Oh wait, don’t forget its for the children…extra points for that one!
SUPER 68 IS DOWN December 1st, 2014 at 6:12 am
Would you please knock it off with the name calling?
You claim that these folks will be shopping in OUR grocery stores soon….
News flash, we have always been shopping there and Kroger has had the same policy for over 50 years. You interact with dozens of concealed carry gun owners daily, you just aren’t aware of it.
I carry firearms for work, I rarely carry off of work but I will sometimes carry when taking the pooch for a late night stroll.
It seems like the last acceptable prejudice these days is with regard to gun owners………..ENOUGH!! Many of us that you folks MOCK are veterans and disabled veterans, we are all Americans..
annaaurora December 1st, 2014 at 9:20 am
I do not mock veterans. If they happen to be followers of what I deem 2A lovers group that really isn’t for the constitution except for the 1 amendment then I fight and spew because I’m tried of discussing. I have had discussions, a million it seems and if I had one more it would render the same result. The fact is more guns equals more “accidents” or shootings, or murder. When the new study came out I thought well I could have told you that. The whole world could have told you that. But hey as many of the stories relate your acc
Ricky Moore II November 30th, 2014 at 1:41 pm
The guy is a resident of Kansas. He was only visiting Austin.
Kind of creepy how self described Liberals are putting 1/4 truth, 3/4 lies, and then demanding the government handle us “extremists”.
Reminiscent of Nazi Germany.
mea_mark November 30th, 2014 at 2:06 pm
From what I have seen he has had addresses in Big Spring, and San Marcos, Texas, along with the Wichita, Kansas area.
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 12:33 pm
This is Professional Troll-ism. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UzjFGA6uZBg
Paully Dee November 30th, 2014 at 1:15 pm
What kind of moronic half assed absurd “journalism” is this?
Ricky Moore II November 30th, 2014 at 1:38 pm
Wow. Um, I’m not even sure how to respond to an article like this. I mean, it’s 25% facts and about 75% media spin and conjecture. Not professional reporting if you ask me (but then again, who does these days?).
Typically your average open carry Texan is going to have his rifle across his back, under 1 arm, or has a black powdered pistol safely in a holster. Texans that choose to do so are not violent and only do so only because it is currently expensive and illegal to conceal or open carry a handgun in Texas. So I guess the “dumb answer” to the dumb question above is this : the difference between an open carry and a crazed shooter is that the open carrier is most likely not wearing body and the shooter is, derp, shooting people.
Secondly, the shooter is from Kansas, does not have any Texas ID, has a permanent residence in Kansas, and has been known to temporarily stay in Austin from time to time.
But then again, this is http://www.alan.com, self described as “Liberal Land”, all of who’s other articles seem to go on about gun control and how Republicans are secretly trying to execute us all.
Lol. This is a CONSPIRACY THEORY site. Not even as credible as http://www.infowars.com
arc99 November 30th, 2014 at 1:50 pm
Hilarious that you come to this site, making protestations about claims which appear nowhere in the article and accuse this site of being a conspiracy theory site.
Did the article state the shooter was a resident of Texas? Did the article state the shooter carried Texas ID?
On the credibility scale, you have no grounds to criticize anyone.
Martin Cohn November 30th, 2014 at 2:03 pm
No just plastered Open Carry Texas pics all over the article. And then implied he was a member.
This sick individual had nothing to do with this or any other pro 2A group, so stop spinning your own truth. Hmm, sounds like a conspiracy site doesn’t it.
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 2:11 pm
This is a failed attempt to demonize open carry groups in Texas.
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 4:01 pm
and perhaps a deliberate attack on SB 195.
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 2:51 pm
https://www.facebook.com/steve.mcquilliams?fref=ts
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 2:53 pm
He’s not in my friends list, not in any of my photos, anyone?
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 2:57 pm
Removed my Facebook link to Steve McQuilliams huh? Must not want him identified.
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 2:58 pm
https://www.facebook.com/steve.mcquilliams?fref=ts
johnnnie November 30th, 2014 at 3:13 pm
https://www.facebook.com/steve.mcquilliams?fref=ts
Kaakstorm November 30th, 2014 at 3:59 pm
A drunk driver smashed into the tactical garden at 2:30 am this morning damaging the tactical rosemary and my truck. Was it the cars fault or should I blame Toyota? If he was a member of AAA, is it ok to implicate them too? Thanks.
John from Texas November 30th, 2014 at 4:39 pm
I understand none of the buildings suffered fatal injuries and that all will be functional by the start of the work week. At least the shooter made his mark on this great earth before transitioning to the next stop!
Bite ME from Texas November 30th, 2014 at 7:18 pm
Your article is 25% crap with a heavy load of Texas bullshit. The guy was a THUG. No different than the THUGS that drive to a town to burn it down for a pair of shoes. That said SHAME ON YOU for using pictures completely unrelated to the story at hand. ASS
Obewon November 30th, 2014 at 8:44 pm
Open carry gun nuts are killer wannabes and criminals: Discovery cancels ‘Sons of Guns’ after Will Hayden’s rape arrest! http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/27/showbiz/sons-of-guns-will-hayden-arrest/ Next-up: Duck & child molester Phil Robertson arrested for germ warfare ‘I don’t bathe or shave because it brings me good luck’-Phil Robertson. OMFG!
SirVesa December 1st, 2014 at 7:09 pm
wow…you conflate someone marching for a cause with child rape? And you’re a moderator? If you had any, you just lost all credibility.
Obewon December 1st, 2014 at 8:01 pm
Open Carry gun nuts selfishly terrorize families and children, commit more crimes as do child molesters e.g. ‘Sons of Guns’ after Will Hayden’s rape arrest. Remember the guns & ammo editor who murdered his friend in a jealous rage of unfounded paranoia?
Gun owners shoot 22 to 43 times more friends and family than any intruder. Furthermore Right-to-carry gun laws linked to increase in violent crime: “The strongest evidence was for aggravated assault, with data suggesting that right-to-carry (RTC) laws increase this crime by an estimated +8% – and this may actually be understated, according to the researchers.
The murder rate increased in the states with existing right-to-carry laws for the period 1999-2010 when the “confounding influence” of the crack cocaine epidemic is controlled for. The study found that homicides increased in 8 states that adopted right-to-carry laws during 1999-2010.”-Stanford research November 14, 2014. Stanford law Professor John J. Donohue III, Stanford law student Abhay Aneja and doctoral student Alexandria Zhang from Johns Hopkins University were the co-authors of the study. http://news.stanford.edu/news/2014/november/donohue-guns-study-111414.html You people are well proven by many studies to create more homicides and crimes than any gun nut has ever prevented.
SirVesa December 1st, 2014 at 8:14 pm
You are full of so much horsesh!t, that its actually painful to read. You read (and believe) a conjecture/propaganda piece from a Liberal college because it suits your agenda. Your facts are hilariously wrong, but don’t take my word for it.
https://www.dps.texas.gov/RSD/CHL/Reports/ConvictionRatesReport2012.pdf
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/ucr
I’m sure you’ll come back with some nonsense to prove your case, but as always you will have NO FACTS. Just misdirection and lies. You see, you folks can’t win a debate with facts because the facts are the opposite what you claim. You hoplaphobia is amusing at best, but it doesn’t change the fact that Texas WILL become the 47th state to have open carry and all you wussies that get terrified of those big scary guns will just have to get used to it. You offend me with the exercise of your 1st Amendment rights and I just have to deal, so fair is fair.
Obewon December 1st, 2014 at 8:44 pm
My unbiased FBI, CDC & Peer-reviewed Stanford facts are linked proving my points.
Here’s another study from Texas A & M University debunking you, and further proving my facts as posted with regard to ‘Stand Your Ground’-homicidal states as well:
“Our study finds that, that homicides go up by +7 to +9% in states that pass (‘Stand Your Ground’) laws, relative to states that didn’t pass the laws over the same time period,” he says.”These laws lower the cost of using lethal force,” says Mark Hoekstra, an economist with Texas A&M University who examined stand your ground laws. “Our study finds that, as a result, you get more of it.” http://www.npr.org/2013/01/02/167984117/-stand-your-ground-linked-to-increase-in-homicide “You are full of so much horsesh!t”-SirVesa Debunked
SirVesa December 1st, 2014 at 8:56 pm
But the problem with your facts is that they’re not factual. Look at the conviction rates I sent you from Texas DPS: if what you said was true, then all of those crimes, including violent crimes would be higher for CHL holders but they’re not. In every single category, the number of CHL offenders is a small fraction of what non-CHL offenders are convicted and, in some cases, the lack of CHL carrying offenders is totally absent. I understand that you dislike guns and I feel sorry for you because you will lose your crusade, but I’m sure that being a professional idealogue you can find some other perceived injustice to get behind. The amusing part of this whole conversation is that I think, in your mind, you really believe you have facts there when the FBI UCR and the Texas DPS conviction reports PROVE to you that you’re blindly following your own deception. Its kinda sad, really.
Obewon December 1st, 2014 at 9:00 pm
Notice how your empty links illustrate you’re inability to refute my posted CDC, FBI & Texas A & M facts debunking you.
SirVesa December 1st, 2014 at 9:19 pm
Because your “facts” are wrong. What the hell does the CDC have to do with gun crime? The DPS crime statistics and the FBI UCR are the ONLY records to be concerned with. How did these other venerable institutions get their information? I’ll tell you where…they made them up. But i’m done explaining to you: if you don’t even know what an SSL browsing warning is, you can’t be helped. If you go into the DPS site and browse to the document, you don’t get the message. I tried to make it easy for you linking directly to the document since you’re such a lazy researcher, but it seems that gun law statistics aren’t the only thing you’re ignorant about. Bad troll, bad.
Obewon December 1st, 2014 at 9:53 pm
“Gun owners shoot 22 to 43 times more friends and family than any intruder.”-FBI/CDC.” and linked facts Vs “What the hell does the (FBI) CDC have to do with gun crime?”
Obewon December 1st, 2014 at 9:14 pm
Your links don’t work and “facts is that they’re not factual.”-Lmao at delusional disorder paranoid gun nuts debunked with unbiased facts.
Furthermore you’re site “www.dps.texas.gov” appears to have been hijacked by MALWARE! “Your connection is not private. Attackers might be trying to steal your information from http://www.dps.texas.gov (for example, passwords, messages, or credit cards).
This server could not prove that it is http://www.dps.texas.gov; its security certificate is from http://www.txdps.state.tx.us. This may be caused by a misconfiguration or an attacker intercepting your connection.”
SirVesa December 1st, 2014 at 8:58 pm
And you’re about as unbiased as your sources…which is to say “not at all”. NPR, Stanford…really?
Obewon December 1st, 2014 at 9:02 pm
“Texas A&M University who examined stand your ground laws”-debunk you further as a person lacking comprehension, or working links that Debunk you e.g.
“Gun owners shoot 22 to 43 times more friends and family than any intruder.”-FBI/CDC.
ABeagleKnots December 1st, 2014 at 1:35 pm
Duh! This one guy proves that Texans aren’t capable of the same open carry rights that people in 45 other states prove are safe every day. Texans are dumber, and less responsible that all other Americans who have open carry rights, and this one single idiot proves it. After all, if one person does something stupid, then all others in his state should be punished, right? it’s common sense safety!
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