Police: Austin Shooter Was A Right-Wing Homegrown Terrorist
The Austin shooter, who targeted “multiple downtown buildings” before dawn on Friday with about 100 shots ringing out into the dark streets, is described by authorities as a right wing extremist.
[su_center_ad]Larry McQulliams harbored extremist right-wing views and appeared to be planning a broader attack against churches and government facilities, according to what law enforcement officials said Monday.
CBS News reports:
…McQuilliams had multiple weapons, hundreds of rounds of ammunition, a water supply and a map of 34 downtown buildings that likely were potential targets in his pre-dawn rampage the day after Thanksgiving, Austin Police Chief Art Acevedo said.
McQuilliams, 49, started his attack on the consulate building and a federal courthouse. He was killed by a single shot to the chest from a police officer as he shot at police headquarters, Acevedo said. McQuilliams fired about 200 rounds, but no one else was killed or injured.
“The one mistake he made was he came to the Austin police station and we were able to take him out pretty quickly,” Acevedo said, who described McQuilliams as a convicted felon and as a “homegrown, American extremist” and “terrorist.”
McQuilliams’ had rented a van that was parked outside the police station and was loaded with ammunition and propane fuel canisters typically used for camping. McQuilliams tried to use fireworks with the canisters to make crude but ineffective bombs and used some at the Mexican Consulate, causing a fire that was quickly extinguished.
Investigators were seen removing dozens of fuel canisters from McQuilliams’ apartment the day after the shooting, the Associated Press observed.
Included in the contents of the van was a copy of “Vigilantes of Christendom,” a 1990 book associated with the Christian Identity movement known as the Phineas Priesthood, which espouses anti-Semitic and racist views.
A handwritten note inside the book referred to McQuilliams as a “priest in the fight against anti-God people,” Acevedo said.
Written across his chest were the words, “Let me die,” Acevedo said.
McQuilliams had served about seven years in federal prison for bank robbery and was released in 2000. As a convicted felon, he could not legally possess the firearms he used in his attack. Acevedo said investigators are still trying to determine how he got them.
McQuilliams’ Facebook page also referenced Ron Paul, as well as an aversion to paying taxes. He wrote,”Stop buying other people stuff with my tax money!”
Stop paying for wars with mine.
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Image: Facebook
tracey marie December 1st, 2014 at 8:24 pm
crazy people with guns. sigh
Anomaly 100 December 1st, 2014 at 8:27 pm
My favorite (meaning least favorite) part is the handwritten note referring to McQuilliams as a “priest in the fight against anti-God people,”
tracey marie December 1st, 2014 at 8:28 pm
They are nuts, not in a mental illness type of nuts but in a hateful raging nuts
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 5:45 pm
A lot of them let the hatred and delusions of granduer paint them in a corner and the only way they can come out of it is with guns blazing.
There are a lot of sane principled by their own lights conservative people out there.
This guy wasn’t one of those but a Nazi bait self crazed criminal .
That was a real good shot by the policeman so Austin got off light.
Thank God, life is hard enough without ginning up more violence and trouble.I’m really glad no one else got killed.
tracey marie December 3rd, 2014 at 5:48 pm
I agree their were sane conservatives, they either are in hiding or joining in the crazy
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 7:43 pm
No they are still around in great numbers .I live in a small rural southern county and know many.We are much more than our political opinions which after all is just part of who we are.
I think many share our concern about the extreme politics and actions of the RWNJ’s among them.
Bad for business if nothing else.
tracey marie December 3rd, 2014 at 7:59 pm
speak louder, no one can here you!
mea_mark December 1st, 2014 at 8:29 pm
I guess this removes all doubt that he wasn’t a lefty or a libtard. ¯_(ツ)_/¯
Anomaly 100 December 1st, 2014 at 8:37 pm
Remember the comments that came in because I had the audacity to quote the police verbatim on a previous post about him? Yeah, well expect more of them:-)
Mainah December 1st, 2014 at 8:47 pm
I always miss the fun.
Anomaly 100 December 1st, 2014 at 8:49 pm
Oh yeah, they got really mad.
Mainah December 1st, 2014 at 8:59 pm
The guy has to be one of the anarchist libertarians. What people were upset that they shot the guy? 200 rounds and they’re upset but a large unarmed 18 year old without weaponry … and m’eh. Wow.
Anomaly 100 December 1st, 2014 at 9:06 pm
They were upset that I quoted the police verbatim when they identified him potentially as someone upset over immigration, etc.
Mainah December 1st, 2014 at 9:20 pm
That upset them? Because the police said he was upset over immigration, which I had read the same thing. He had some really insane fb posts that seemed to bear that out. Unless they too are in the fight against the anti-god people and they saw that as a mar on their “cause”. He’s dead so I can’t scream buy a dictionary, it’s called atheism.
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 5:35 pm
He was probably a little from column A a little from column B in a mish mash of RWNJ stuff floated around by bald guys who grow little beards and wear sunglasses indoors.
He didn’t strain himself making an honest living.
Probably couldn’t find a job because he had a way overinflated view of his worth like most criminals do.
ShelleysLeg December 2nd, 2014 at 3:04 pm
I didn’t go looking the next morning as I have elected to ban Microsoft news as my home page, but I’m pretty sure ‘The Vine’ had him as a lefty like the Aurora shooter…..they always do, but then I thought all ‘libtards’ were gun fearing pussies?
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 5:30 pm
RWNJ”S are allready claiming he was a Democrat..Next they will claim he was TINO.Terrorist In Name Only so they can’t be held responsible.
Mainah December 1st, 2014 at 8:32 pm
So the renaissance fair guy was a skin head terrorist. A really bad terrorist but still. Now there’s a mind flip.
searambler December 1st, 2014 at 8:36 pm
“As a convicted felon, he could not legally possess the firearms he used in his attack. Acevedo said investigators are still trying to determine how he got them.”
Gun shows, private sales, a friend or relative……..
Mainah December 1st, 2014 at 8:47 pm
Another grand day for Open Carry Texas movements! Where’s Nugent? Shouldn’t he be calling this guy a hero?
tiredoftea December 1st, 2014 at 10:47 pm
His unindicted buddies in the christian fringe movement.
raincheck December 2nd, 2014 at 7:06 am
Most likely the source…
StoneyCurtisll December 2nd, 2014 at 1:35 am
Boom..
Ya nailed brother.
Shades December 2nd, 2014 at 7:23 am
Here in Florida, guns are the first thing men ask for at a garage sale. It used to be tools.
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 5:27 pm
Stole it maybe…If you want a weapon in Texas you don’t have to look real hard.Probably lifted from one of his buddies.
Ol Blue December 1st, 2014 at 8:45 pm
The eyes.
You can tell a loon by the eyes.
He’s got Michele Bachmann eyes.
raincheck December 2nd, 2014 at 7:05 am
lol
Judy Steffel December 2nd, 2014 at 2:03 pm
And he appears to be wearing a fishing lure…
Suzanne McFly December 1st, 2014 at 8:55 pm
This is textbook nut job…..”Stop buying other people stuff with my tax money!”……..says the moron who was on the public dole as he served 7 years in jail for robbery, who’s money did he steal, his own? Who worked to pay for his food, electricity, shelter, and medical while he was locked up? Two hints…..not and him. Dumb ass
neworleans878 December 1st, 2014 at 8:58 pm
Logic never makes sense to fanatics, not matter what their stripe.
Suzanne McFly December 1st, 2014 at 9:01 pm
I know, but when I say something stupid, I know it right away and try to figure out why I said it. Why does this habit seem to allude those who seem to need it so badly.
Spirit of America December 1st, 2014 at 10:41 pm
Good news in this case, he won’t be able to cogitate why he said it…
🙂
Spirit of America December 1st, 2014 at 8:57 pm
He was shot dead?
Nicholas Russell Harris December 2nd, 2014 at 7:23 am
Better than be shot alive lol
ExPFCWintergreen December 1st, 2014 at 9:10 pm
Who could’ve seen that coming?
Spirit of America December 1st, 2014 at 10:40 pm
If you are a bomb-vest wearing, western-hater, anti-semitic jihadist, yes, you too are a threat.
(what is ” ‘roid-raging”?)
ExPFCWintergreen December 1st, 2014 at 11:12 pm
On the best day he ever had, Bin Laden WISHED he was as big a threat, as clear and present a danger, to the well-being of the United States as is the average right-winger. But nice try. We have some lovely parting gifts for you.
Spirit of America December 1st, 2014 at 11:15 pm
LOL, that was funny.
ExPFCWintergreen December 1st, 2014 at 11:23 pm
Nervous laughter always greets the truth when right-wingers are exposed to it. Because given their lack of facts, data, analytical ability, knowledge of history, or even powers of simple causal reasoning at least as sophisticated as those held by the common garden slug, nervous laughter is all right-wingers have.
Spirit of America December 1st, 2014 at 11:44 pm
That wasn’t nervous laughter, that was a down right belly laugh cause it was you were either being sarcastic or extremely inane… I gave you the benefit of the doubt and went with you were being sarcastic and I thought it was funny. I see I shouldn’t have given you said benefit…
Now, besides you lacking any data or facts in your response(only attempted insults like most child-like people do), you want to pull up how many americans have died/was injured due to islamic terrorists (not just 1 man, all of them since that is a group) and how many americans have died due to “gun-toting, anti-immigrant, ‘roid-raging, right wing, rennfest cosplaying patriots” (the group being compared) say since… let us go with since the year 2000?
Add up all the kills/injured of both groups. Post them and then you’ll see why I was laughing.
ExPFCWintergreen December 2nd, 2014 at 10:05 am
Excellent idea. But your periodization is highly suspect. Christianity: Shall I start with, say, the Reconquista? Inquisition? Perhaps the Crusades? Salem witch trials? The blood Christians “drink” at their pagan cannibalism rituals is the blood of millions who didn’t die for others’ sins but were killed because that fanatical “faith” American right-wingers practice has been the most murderous plague ever visited upon the planet. Or should we just start with American conservatism more generally? Then we only have to count all the Africans and indigenous tribes enslaved and murdered since, say, 1650. Or how about we start at just 1900? Then all we have to do is count all the Cambodians, Laotians, Vietnamese, Salvadorans, Nicaraguans, Angolans, Mozambicans, Iraqis, Iranians, Syrians, Palestinians, Libyans, Filipinos, and Panamanians killed by the American right-wing’s military adventures. Or perhaps we should just add up all the victims of mass-casualty gun events, all of which are perpetrated by ammosexual right-wingers? Yeah, now that I look at it more closely, it’s very clear just how big a threat to America the “conservative” movement is. Gosh, I wonder when we’re finally going to start seeing some serious deportations of Republicans to these FEMA concentration camps they keep wetting their pants about? There’s clearly not enough room at Gitmo for those terrorists.
Spirit of America December 2nd, 2014 at 11:41 am
No, the ‘periodization’ is not suspect, the topic is about threats to america today, not 700+ years ago. And even than you left out much, such as the muslim conquests/pillage/destruction across africa, s. med europe, spain, etc. And TODAY in afrika and M.E. muslims are killing by the 10’s of thousands other muslims, christians and other minorities… what, we don’t include them as people? Totally diff topic. Kennedy & Johnson weren’t ‘right-wingers’ btw… you have so much attributed incorrectly and left out it is pitiful. It is all smoke and mirrors to deflect from the topic.
Stay on topic please.
First thing I’d like to mention is you seem to think there is and can only be one threat to america… like “oh hey, since I think this group is a threat, there aren’t any other threats out there”. That is not accurate. That is why I put ‘too’ in italics.
Second, “Or perhaps we should just add up all the victims of mass-casualty gun
events, all of which are perpetrated by ammosexual right-wingers?”
Besides being inaccurate, feel free to include those that really are due to that group. That is the point… add them up, add up the other threat group, and lets go from there.
And to reiterate, the topic is threat to america today.
(PS- if your PFC part of name = Private 1st Class, thanks for your service)
Judy Steffel December 2nd, 2014 at 2:02 pm
Does ExPFCWintergreen get to include all the dead in Iraq and Afghanistan would should be attributed to Mr. Bush?
tracey marie December 2nd, 2014 at 2:11 pm
are you kidding, theose types blame clinton for the bush first term and Obama for the bush 2nd term
Spirit of America December 2nd, 2014 at 2:43 pm
That’s not part of the topic. And many democrats voted for those as well, making it not just ‘right-wing’, since even POTUS called that the ‘just’ war.
Group 1 = islamist terrorists
Group 2 = “gun-toting, anti-immigrant, ‘roid-raging, right wing, rennfest cosplaying patriots”
He brought up both groups, and only those 2 groups, so lets stick to those groups.
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 5:21 pm
Roid rage refers to steriod abuse and the shooter was a body builder.I don’t know if he used them.
A lot of outlaws and predators hang out at Ren fests.I used to work them on top of my steady job for extra money.
Most of the people who work there are good honest people but the other ones are around.
I wouldn’t let my kids run around un supervised and would not be alone at one as a female.
Spirit of America December 3rd, 2014 at 8:47 pm
Ahhh, steroid… I see it now. Actually thought it might be something to do w/robotics or something, soulless…
appreciate the clarification!!
Obewon December 1st, 2014 at 9:40 pm
Like many far right extreme racist domestic terrorists, his plan was ended by a single policeman. The cop fired one shot killing the “Christian Identity” terrorist while holding two horses he was putting away for the evening.
A single shot from one policeman vs 200 shots and many homemade bomb duds from the Christian Identity anti-Semite racist follows his dead ender Christian Identity/ Patriot movement and Sovereign citizen anarchist (R) Ron Paul nuts. Terrorism Directed At ‘Liberal’ And ‘Government’ Targets Since July 2008-2011. http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/violence-directed-liberal-and-govern
Judy Steffel December 2nd, 2014 at 1:58 pm
I’m waiting for someone to ask why the cop didn’t “shoot to wound” him…
Foundryman December 1st, 2014 at 9:42 pm
Remember the right wing ranter from Tenn named Yeager who was going to “start killing people”?…Looks just like him…
Obewon December 1st, 2014 at 9:45 pm
James Yeager! Tennessee Suspends Handgun Carry Permit Of Tactical Response CEO http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/state-suspends-handgun-carry-permit-of-tactical-response-ceo And then Tenn gave him back his conceal carry gun permit! “Tactical Response CEO James Yeager: I Got My Gun Permit Back” http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/tactical-response-ceo-james-yeager-i-got-my-gun-permit-back
Foundryman December 1st, 2014 at 9:47 pm
Thanks Obewon….man you’re good with the data!!!….
Seems like he made a threat to Obama too….
jasperjava December 1st, 2014 at 10:20 pm
I bet the right-wing crazies will be more upset with the police chief calling him a “right-wing terrorist” than with the mayhem the shooter caused.
Can we call these conservative extremists “terrorist sympathisers” yet?
Megalith December 4th, 2014 at 11:25 am
I can find the names of dozens of extreme left wing terrorists who’ve killed multiple people with shooting sprees and bombs. Where’s the long list of extreme right wing terrorists and their death toll? That’s a very small list with a small kill total because extreme right wing terrorists are a rare bird. Notice this guy didn’t kill anyone, and he had multiple opportunities to do so. Additionally, labeling this guy as right wing is a long stretch. The lack of evidence proving his political affiliations doesn’t support the Austin PD’s claim. Got any other false preconceived notions you’d like to throw out there?
tracey marie December 1st, 2014 at 10:26 pm
perfect featured comment!
skepticarpenter December 1st, 2014 at 10:30 pm
Savage, Beck and Alex Jones , made this guy- they should be proud of themselves.
burqa December 1st, 2014 at 11:37 pm
They probably shoot about as well, too………….
burqa December 1st, 2014 at 11:36 pm
Reminds me of the guy who opened fire from the Texas Tower in the early 60s.
The main difference was that guy actually hit people he shot at, but this buffoon fired 200 rounds and didn’t even wing anyone…..
Spirit of America December 1st, 2014 at 11:46 pm
Thank god for buffoons, eh?!
StoneyCurtisll December 2nd, 2014 at 1:28 am
Charles Whitman.
16 killed, 32 wounded.
rg9rts December 2nd, 2014 at 7:10 am
and had a brain tumor…discovered when the autopsy HE requested was done
Spirit of America December 3rd, 2014 at 11:17 am
He really had a brain tumor?
(and I’m really asking, I didn’t hear that, but that would add a very important detail to this episode., in my view)
rg9rts December 3rd, 2014 at 3:29 pm
Yes he did…He knew something was wrong but couldn’t stop himself…he knew he would die and wanted to have the world find out why…it tumor was near the impulse control area.. I don’t recall if he complained of a history of headaches or not
Spirit of America December 3rd, 2014 at 4:41 pm
Very interesting, appreciate the reply, ty.
mea_mark December 3rd, 2014 at 4:56 pm
To really put a twist on things. His brain was just discovered stolen along with about 100 other brains. http://t.co/goZeluFF3k
Spirit of America December 3rd, 2014 at 8:45 pm
So, let me get this straight… 1st, fema runs an emergency exercise w/zombies as the cause of emergency… then a bunch of brains have gone missing…
Oh SH**!!!!
🙂
mea_mark December 3rd, 2014 at 4:57 pm
http://t.co/goZeluFF3k Brain stolen.
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 5:12 pm
I’m sorry an autopsy was done but no tumor was found.He was a shallow narcistic guy who had just about run his string out so he decided to go out as a mass murderer.I remember it well.
I was in Uvalde at this time well outside of Austin and a lot of people were quite upset about it.
It was so horrible because it was so unheard of at the time.
mea_mark December 3rd, 2014 at 5:28 pm
I think you are wrong. http://brainmind.com/Case5.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Whitman
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 5:53 pm
Wouldn’t be the first time or the last.I’m wrong more than I’m right.
I will look when I get up for the title of the book I read on the subject.
I’m an old snort who never had a good memory but I was very suprised to read that there was no tumor or organic brain damage.
Like you in the words of Kinky Friedman I thougt “There was a rumor of a tumor” was valid but this book states other wise.
I ‘m going to have to go pee soon anyway so I will try to find it then if I don’t forget.
mea_mark December 3rd, 2014 at 6:29 pm
Well, I did leave 2 links. Scroll down in wikipedia to where it talks about his autopsy. There are reference links there also.
p.s. I grew up in Austin. I have lived with this story and been to the scene over a thousand times.
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 7:33 pm
I read both of them so i’m not so sure of my assertion.Tried to find the book here at home but couldn’t.Looked on the Internet and found the book “Sniper in the Tower which I’m pretty sure was the book i read.
I went to the index and of course could not pull up “Why he did it.”
There was something about the autopsy that did not gib with the current meme of his condition but it is looking more likely there was in fact a tumor.
Thank you for your patience and your civility.
mea_mark December 3rd, 2014 at 7:54 pm
Not everybody agreed that he did it because of the tumor. It does appear to be the leading theory and when you look at it in context with what is happening today to football players with concussions it seems plausible there is a connection. What exactly that connection is, is still not known definitively.
rg9rts December 4th, 2014 at 1:48 am
Try again
ironman2819 December 2nd, 2014 at 5:39 pm
He was also a marine who had combat training with his garand M1 .30 rifle.
Whereas I bet this putz was a wannabe Cliven Bundy and Ted Nugent fan who probably had as much training with weapons as I have had with nuclear fusion engines that take us to near warp speed…..
Which is why he couldn’t hit anything smaller than a building.
fancypants December 2nd, 2014 at 12:01 am
a picture is worth a 1000 words ( after you read it )
Hass December 2nd, 2014 at 8:23 am
Surely this sign is not real, right?
ironman2819 December 2nd, 2014 at 5:33 pm
Sadly, not only is it a real sign but in fact it is one of the more milder advertisements for the radical right’s mental illness that I have seen.
DavidD December 3rd, 2014 at 5:03 pm
The sign may be real but that is not an official state of Texas border crossing.
Don’t let hatemongers whatever their political persuasion fool you and stay away from them.Any philosophy based on hate is dangerous.
I’m an old rural whiteman who doesn’t pack heat because I fear the consequences of doing so.I’m a third generation Texan who worked institution and seen many a guy who did something stupid with a gun and wished he hadn’t.
The gun can’t think for you and is not a magic wand that makes your trouble go away.It’s a tool but the responsibility is all on you.
I keep one on the place to protect my stock from predators and self protection but I’m backing up and calling the pros if there is trouble on the place.
RWNJ’s like to talk about the consequences of not having their substitute for a brain strapped to their hips.
What they don’t like to talk about is the consequences of using them.
fancypants December 2nd, 2014 at 11:39 pm
Don’t put it to the test if your in the lone star state. and yes there are a lot of trigger happy folks
Hass December 3rd, 2014 at 3:05 am
I don’t meant any offence mate, but as an Aussie, those Southern States would be off limits if I were to visit.
fancypants December 3rd, 2014 at 3:18 am
I don’t like to eat in restaurants with pistol packing customers ether unfortunately its catching on in some northern states too. Good luck if you plan to visit ?
sntduke December 3rd, 2014 at 10:32 am
Why is that. Occasionally , I see a man with a gun at a restaurant and more than half the time I get a chance to ask them “why the gun” they turn out to be off duty cops. They carry their guns off duty cause they know just how much bad stuff is going on out their. Why would you deny me the same right to defend myself and others around me. Look up the Luby’s Massacre. I actually had a chance to talk with the woman who testified at the Senate back in the nineties and she laments to this day that if she had been able to carry her gun unto the restaurant both her parents would be alive today, but she respected the no firearms sign posted . A gun is nothing more than a tool and in the wrong hands it can do unspeakable evil , but in the hands of the good… How about keeping the guns out of the hands of the criminals and metally sick and assume the rest of the people are probably good.
fancypants December 5th, 2014 at 1:32 am
At the texas restaurant I was at Im 99% sure these were not all off duty cops. I think you need to spend time among the simple minded in this state before you understand why some visitors get uncomfortable among these people
sntduke December 3rd, 2014 at 10:08 am
Hey Hass
I am a 52 y/o native born Texan. If this sign exists it is someones private property. It is probably photo shopped. The basic sign above the little sayings below is what you see at every border crossing , but has been changed . The Don’t mess with Texas is the saying we came up with some 40 years ago and is by all accounts the most successful cleanup campaign ever run by a State. Don’t get caught throwing trash on the road cause you will get a big fine. See. Texas is the friendliest place in America, and I have lived wherever ,but the far west and will not ever live on our left coast. The official greeting is Howdy, but most of us don’t take kindly to criminals. We do love our guns and we are probably the the most armed state in the Country with more weapons per household than anyplace ,but say Alaska or Montana where they are still low population density and a lot of people still have to have one to eat and protect themselves from large predatory Animals. Please don’t form your opinion of the South from this Looney tune site. I come hear on occasion to see whats the “Comrades” are saying about people like me. This is one of the most hate filled sites I have ever seen. You will never see shop owners being burned out of his business hear and neighbors will help defend what is yours. I am one of those “Tea Baggers” and actually help Run a Tea Party in Allen Texas. Look me up we are real radical we believe in Responsible Government, Personnel responsibly, Fiscal responsibility, the rule of law, ie: The Constitution of the United States and yess God too. The guy in the article is just your average nut case who went berserk, and of course the writer of this article has to try and tie him to people like me cause they fear me and my message. Well I have said enough and I hope you get to read this before there staff removes it.
Trippin McZoink December 2nd, 2014 at 4:07 am
That might be the first time police have called a right wing terrorist what he is. The cop killer in Pennsylvania was called a “survivalist.”
rg9rts December 2nd, 2014 at 7:08 am
Codeword
rg9rts December 2nd, 2014 at 7:11 am
Are the baggers proud of this alumni???
William December 2nd, 2014 at 8:43 am
We are surprised why?
Gerry Panzica December 2nd, 2014 at 2:31 pm
why are MOST NUTJOBS, goodlooking???? this is getting depressing!!!!
Cliff Herring December 3rd, 2014 at 7:41 pm
Ok,so the gun nuts say “If you outlaw guns only the outlaws will have them!” This guy WAS an outlaw..a convicted felon. Now,maybe if there were sensible gun control legislation in place,maybe this idiot wouldn’t have got his hands on any! Just because we want gun control doesn’t mean we are all anti-gun! And the cops say he was a right winger. Any surprises here? We Liberals try to argue..persuade with THOUGHT. All CONS know is to point a gun.
sonofeire December 3rd, 2014 at 10:43 pm
That guy was not a Muslim, but there is no essential difference between him and Muslim extremists. Muslim fanatics who want to impose Sharia Law ARE right-wing. They are anti – semitic, misogynist, and fascist in their attitude. And, it is rationally undeniable that any criminal who is DETERMINED enough to get a gun WILL find a way to get one ……. regardless of ANY gun-control laws on the books; just as anyone who is determined enough to get illegal drugs WILL find a way to get them. Before anyone jumps to conclusions, I am NOT saying that there should be no official restrictions on any weapons ownership at all. I am simply saying that I know I live in the real world, and criminals …. by definition …. do not obey the law. There are over 300 million firearms in this country that are LEGALLY owned by civilians. There are tens of thousands of people in this country who, like myself, have the technical ability and tools necessary to manufacture weapons in our garages if we wanted to.
There IS manifest truth in the axiom that, “If guns are outlawed, it is the ‘OUTLAWS’ who will have guns” ……. for the simple reason that, if private ownership of firearms is outlawed …. or officially made extremely bureaucratically difficult for decent citizens …. tens of millions of otherwise law – abiding citizens will be transformed into ‘outlaws’ ……. because they will NOT give up the weapons they feel they need for their own protection in an increasingly predatory social environment.
Candide Thirtythree December 4th, 2014 at 4:42 am
Calm down, no one is outlawing guns and you know it.
There need to be common sense laws that make it much harder for bad guys to get guns, not keep sane, rational, reasonable people from getting them.
No laws STOP and criminal behavior, mostly they just subscribe the punishment for the person who gets caught breaking them.
And before you go calling me a gun grabber, we have a fire proof steel gun vault, looks like a bank vault, is bolted to the wall and locked at all times. It is full of guns and ammo, some of them are antiques that have been handed down for generations. There is not a right winger in the family, most family members have been in the military or law enforcement.
We libruls have guns too ya know, we just don’t think it should be so easy for criminals and crazy people to get guns.
B.T. Dubbs… crime is down all over and has been going down for decades, long before Obama got in office.
sonofeire December 4th, 2014 at 10:17 am
Oh, please …. when you tell me to “calm down” ….. look in the mirror, take your condescending tone, and direct it where it will really do some good.
I am not hysterical, and there was nothing in what I previously wrote above that would indicate such a frame of mind coming from me. That is your own projection. I specifically stated, “I am NOT saying that there should be no official restrictions on any weapons ownership at all.”
The salient question should be, “Do MORE ‘common sense laws’ REALLY prevent serious criminals from obtaining firearms, or do they simply throw more bureaucratic hurdles in the way of honest citizens who want to obtain firearms?” There is no such thing as COMMON sense. If good sense were really common, there would be no wars, both Barack Obama and George Bush would never have had manipulators from Goldman Sachs serving in their administrations, and no child in Africa would be starving. And WHO qualifies to be the final arbiter of what ‘common sense’ IS? If you get five people in the same room, chances are they will not be able to agree on a definition. What IS ‘common sense’ …. and what is simply bureaucratic over-reach and tyranny? Yes, of course there should be background checks. However, I have studied and met a number of determined criminals in the course of my life. Based on their own ingenuity and previous record, I see no reason to believe that ANY of them would have serious difficulty obtaining a firearm if they are on the outside of a prison …. even if all private ownership of guns were banned.
For the record, I myself am NOT a Republican …. and never have been. I have no problem with owning guns. I certainly know how to use them, but I am not a “gun nut.” I don’t even like to hunt. I prefer fishing. I would suggest, however, that if you really believe that ‘no one’ in a position of political power wants to ban private ownership of firearms, then you obviously have not been paying attention. There are members of Congress, such as Diane Feinstein and Nancy Pelosi, as well as former Attorney General, Janet Reno, who have stated publicly that they want ALL private ownership of firearms to be banned. Those are THEIR words, not mine ……. and they are not alone in that view among those who are present office-holders or veterans of the Federal political establishment. And, those who are zealous partisans of that view have demonstrated that they are relentless in the pursuit of their agenda …. regardless of their stealth tactics, their coy deceptions about their intent, and the incremental steps they must use to work toward their ultimate objective.
Candide Thirtythree December 5th, 2014 at 5:16 am
Prozac time for you, you are overwrought…none of those women you named said any of the stuff you said they said and none have any power beyond their one vote in congress. If they had any power, lots more stuff would have been fixed that isn’t.
You got those lies straight off of right wing propaganda sites and conspiracy theory blogs and you are letting those fear mongers get you all stirred up.
I get at least 15 e-mails a day from conservative groups with the headline, “Obama is coming for your guns!!!” and I have been getting them since the day he was elected, not the day he took office but the day he was elected, so that is all the proof you need of their real agenda.
According to those sites, Obama has signed no less than 3,000 anti gun bills even though in reality he has signed NONE!
No one even talks about it on the hill, it is a non-issue, no one is gonna do anything because the NRA has too much bribe money to spread around…so calm down.
Candide Thirtythree December 4th, 2014 at 4:17 am
We paid for him to live in prison with our tax money for 7 years! But he don’t want to pay any taxes…Paaaahhhllleeeaaassse! He was just looking to get killed because he thought he was gonna be a martyr but he just ended up being a joke like most republicans.
sonofeire December 4th, 2014 at 8:48 am
” a joke like most Republicans.”
Are you saying that the shooter himself was a verified Republican?
If so, I must have missed seeing that in the article. Where is it? As far as I could see, it only says that he referenced Ron Paul. Although Ron Paul is a member of the Republican party, he is, in fact, considered anathema by many establishment Republicans.
Candide Thirtythree December 5th, 2014 at 5:27 am
RWNJ = Republican
I bet that you argue that all KKK/white supremacist members are democrats too don’t you? Who cares that every KKK member announces to anyone who will listen just how much they hate democrats and that black president who just happens to be a democrat and say that all black people vote democrat for the free stuff and have Romney and Bush bumper stickers peeling and fading on their pick-up trucks and every tie to a politician that has ever come out has been a republican and the list is a mile long.
but you will still say it is not enough evidence and next you will claim that you looked it up on the internet and confirmed that he was a registered democrat even though it is a felony to try to gain access to people’s government files.
That freak show is all yours, it is called the religious right for a reason, republicans own it.
Megalith December 4th, 2014 at 11:13 am
It looks as if his FB page has been “sanitized”. A whitewash so the politicians can hang the “right wing” label around this guys neck. All that can be gleaned from a public viewing of his page is he was a ren-fair addict. If he had posted anything political aside from the Dalai Llama meme, it has been removed or hidden from public view. This is not the FB page of a right wing extremist. The Austin PD are lying as they’ve been ordered to.
Francis Vetter December 5th, 2014 at 3:12 pm
Most Tea Party people support the church or any christian life, why do they think he is a Tea Party Person?
ratspt December 5th, 2014 at 3:24 pm
Everything they sayin this article does not make him a right winger or conservative.
Noneof what this idiot was associated with or did is right wing.
The Police officer Acevedo needs to research his definition about right wingers.
This idiot is nothing more than a law breaking Anarchist!
MannieP December 7th, 2014 at 10:41 am
He may be a right winger. We have a few nutcases. The fact remains, that the Left owns political violence, as well as plain old thuggery. Liberalism is a cult of hate and violence.