Georgia Town Votes To Ban Mosque
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While anti-Muslim protesters waved signs outside the Kennesaw City Hall, the City Council voted against allowing an Islamic group the opportunity to rent a retail space in the small Georgia town.
The local Islamic group agreed to the numerous limitations that the Kennesaw city attorney requested, including a limit of 80 worshipers at a time, 40 parking spaces and only a two-year lease…
Doug Dillard, a lawyer who represents the Muslim group, says they may have to sue the City of Kennesaw in federal court as similar suits have been successful.
“You know, if Christianity were killing people, I’m pretty sure I would have a problem with it,” said Pastor C.S. Clarke of the Redeemed Christian Fellowship Church. “Then I would be concerned with that moving into my neighborhood. But, I’m open, I’m inclusive. Christianity does teach love, inclusiveness, creating a better environment for everyone.”
Pastor Clarke failed to mention the numerous lynchings that took place in Georgia for decades in the name of Christianity.[su_csky_ad]
Suzanne McFly December 3rd, 2014 at 7:30 am
Ahhhh, the sweet smell of ignorance.
Gindy51 December 3rd, 2014 at 7:38 am
As well as bigotry, racism, and evil.
Hirightnow December 3rd, 2014 at 7:36 am
Stupidity and intolerance in GEORGIA?!!!? Of all places?
What has the world come to?
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 8:39 am
Religion, fear and low education, what could go wrong?
rg9rts December 3rd, 2014 at 8:55 am
They reproduce
Blogvader December 3rd, 2014 at 9:03 am
Sounds like a job for the Satanic Temple.
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 9:04 am
That sounds like an excellent idea.
EnuffBull December 3rd, 2014 at 8:46 am
From Wikipedia about Kennsaw, GA: “The city is perhaps best known nationally for its mandatory gun-possession ordinance.”
Can’t let those who practice their 1st and 2nd amendment rights if they are of a different ethnic persuasion, eh?
rg9rts December 3rd, 2014 at 8:55 am
Who is next??? Catholics?? Protestants?? Jews??? Unitarians??
Hirightnow December 3rd, 2014 at 9:04 am
Yes.
rg9rts December 3rd, 2014 at 9:07 am
Gotta watch them Unitarians…they take anybody
jasperjava December 3rd, 2014 at 10:03 am
A right-wing terrorist actually attacked a Unitarian church in 2008, killing two before he was subdued by heroic members of the congregation.
The killer had a manifesto expressing his frustration at not being able to kill the 100 most influential liberals demonized in one of Bernard Goldberg’s books, so he attacked a Unitarian church instead.
When police searched his hovel they found dozens of books by right-wing extremists like Glenn Beck, Limbaugh, etc.
ExPFCWintergreen December 3rd, 2014 at 9:06 am
Funny thing is, their local Kennesaw State University offers classes in Arabic and Turkish and is celebrating the “Year of the Arabian Peninsula” this academic year, after a previous “Year of Turkey.” So there they are, jeopardizing the good Christian community of Kennesaw, obviously a bunch of … what’s the Islamophobic equivalent of “pinko?” I mean, during the Red Scare, someone was a “pinko” because to the Reactionary Right of the 1950s they were vaguely “soft” on the dread Socialisticalishy changes they thought were afoot in America (your hard-core Commie fanatic, of course, being red). So deep in the heart of Green Scare country, is someone who is vaguely “soft” on Islam … I don’t know … turquoise? Minty?
jasperjava December 3rd, 2014 at 9:55 am
I’m going with “fuchsia”.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:24 pm
Wow! The cognitive dissonance is deafening!
R J December 3rd, 2014 at 9:08 am
Christianity
ExPFCWintergreen December 3rd, 2014 at 9:10 am
Ah, yes, the fine, Christian folk of Indiana, one of the most Republican of Republican states ever since the GOP was created and, not coincidentally, the epicenter for the resurgence of the Ku Klux Klan in the 1910s-20s.
granpa.usthai December 3rd, 2014 at 10:31 am
excellent response, RJ
– but we all know how much has changed since ‘WHITE Christian Rule’ in Florida 2012 and Missouri 2014.
Angelo_Frank December 3rd, 2014 at 9:27 am
Gosh almighty, I’m certainly relieved it wasn’t Texas this time.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 9:49 am
I’m guessing that none of those bashing Kennesaw has a clue about Islam. Of course, those bashing Kennesaw are stupid enough to equate Islam as it is today with Christianity as it is today, which is utter nonsense. Need I remind those bashing Kennesaw that radical atheists have perpetrated the most heinous mass murders of the last 100 years, far exceeding anything done by religious fanatics, including Muslims.
jasperjava December 3rd, 2014 at 10:08 am
You’re the same as these idiots, tarring an entire religion or philosophical movement with a broad brush. That’s the essence of prejudice and bigotry, and the mark of the weak-minded and ignorant.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 10:18 am
You’ve just proven my point about your own ignorance of Islam. Thank you.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:23 pm
Really? I thought you were being purposefully pointless.
fahvel December 3rd, 2014 at 11:11 am
well said as usual!!!!
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 10:12 am
Radical atheists? Okay, I’ll bite – what the hell are you talking about.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 10:17 am
Did your education not include learning about the filthy countries known as the Soviet Union or Communist China?
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 10:21 am
Those are the radical atheists – you’re an idiot.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 10:23 am
Lenin, Stalin, Khruschev, Brezhnev, Andropov, Chernenko, and Gorbachev, Mao, Chou, Deng, all radical atheists and all mass murderers. You’re an idiot.
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 10:28 am
We live in the US, and the first amendment allows for those in this country to practice the religion of choice. Lenin, Stalin et.al have nothing to do with atheism or religion, they just happen to be bad people – which in all walks of life the world over. You can pretend that the Christian religion doesn’t do and hasn’t done awful things – but that just makes you wrong. Regardless both you and the folk of Kennesaw are in violation of the Constitution of the United States. They don’t have to approve this specific mosque, but they cannot just refuse to allow them to build because they don’t like the religion.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 10:44 am
“We live in the US, and the first amendment allows for those in this country to practice the religion of choice.”
Agreed.
“Lenin, Stalin et.al have nothing to do with atheism or religion, they just happen to be bad people – which in all walks of life the world over.”
They had everything to do with atheism and religion. In fact, they made it a point to oppress all religious faith, especially Christianity and Judaism, and probably Islam in the central Asian regions.
“You can pretend that the Christian religion doesn’t do and hasn’t done awful things – but that just makes you wrong.”
I’ve never pretended that. But the fact of the matter is that Islam as a religion is a problem now (and has been since Muhammad), in the U.S. and in the rest of the world. Ignoring that doesn’t mean the problem doesn’t exist. Again, someone with even a rudimentary knowledge of the history of Islam understands this.
“They don’t have to approve this specific mosque,…”
And that ends the issue, doesn’t it?
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 10:44 am
No, what they are doing is unconstitutional.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 10:48 am
I doubt it.
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 10:54 am
Then where did you get your education? First amendment is pretty straightforward as it applies here.
fahvel December 3rd, 2014 at 11:11 am
he hasn’t been educated.
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 11:13 am
However, he has been banned.
arc99 December 3rd, 2014 at 11:41 am
thank you. I have hypertension and dealing with such profound ignorance is bad for my health.
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 11:53 am
I had my fill.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:22 pm
Really. Where do you even start with these idiots? Of course, that is their point. They just want to drag the thread down the rabbit hole until nobody can remember what the topic was.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:21 pm
Thank you.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:21 pm
Self-homeschooled.
fahvel December 3rd, 2014 at 11:10 am
aw heck dummy, now ya gotta read da constitooshun too.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:20 pm
No, really it is. Believe it or not, religious freedom is for everybody–not just christians. Atheists, Muslims, Buddhists–we ALL have the same rights to freedom of and from religion in this country.
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 10:43 am
You must mean like this good Christian: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/arizona-pastor-predicts-aids-free-christmas-if-all-gays-are-killed-as-god-commands/
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 10:47 am
How utterly ridiculous of you. You would dare to compare a nutty Baptist preacher to filthy Communist atheists who actually committed mass murder? With your thinking, George W. Bush caused the Black Death nearly 700 years ago, right?
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 10:53 am
You’re the one that said we can’t compare modern Christianity to modern Islam – well yes I can and just did.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 11:06 am
Do you know how many Christian theocracies exist in the world today? Two: Vatican City and the UK. That’s it. And the UK doesn’t even operate as a theocracy and hasn’t in centuries. Do you know how many Muslim theocracies exist in the world today? Somewhere between a half-dozen and a dozen. And that doesn’t even count ISIS or other Islamic terrorist enclaves. And unlike the UK, these are actual Muslim theocracies where sharia and all the bad that goes with it are part of the law used in those countries and localities.
What nation or government does this one Baptist preacher rule over, hmmm?
And is this modern Christianity? Or just you ignoring the thousands upon thousands of Baptist preachers who don’t believe as this one preacher? Besides, based on what I’m seeing, this particular church isn’t even associated with any of the mainstream Baptist faiths, especially not the Southern Baptists. It almost sounds like this is one of those apostate faiths along the lines of the heretical Westboro Baptists, which is also not an actual Baptist church.
If this one guy is what you want to believe is representative of Christianity, then you are obviously happy living in a delusion and happy to spread your delusion.
fahvel December 3rd, 2014 at 11:08 am
other than making fun of an ass like steve, I believe a conversation is as helpful as what his brain is composed of.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 11:09 am
You don’t want a conversation. You’ve proven that.
Carla Akins December 3rd, 2014 at 11:32 am
Agreed
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:18 pm
Steve is just trolling.
fahvel December 3rd, 2014 at 11:07 am
not really! read a real book.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 11:08 am
Which book, one of Howard Zinn’s “history” books, which are nothing but lies?
fahvel December 3rd, 2014 at 11:07 am
stop before you expose your rear end along with your ?brain?
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 11:08 am
Are you homophobic as well?
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:17 pm
They suppressed religion. As soon as communism fell, it reared up its ugly head again. Gawd–you sure have a skewed vision of the world.
granpa.usthai December 3rd, 2014 at 10:26 am
2014 – 100 = 1914.
WW I
WW II
Korean Conflict
Vietnam Conflict
Gulf War Conflict
War against ‘Terrorism’ (including Abu Ghraib and Guantanamo Bay)
all included predominant Christianity.
‘Christian Amurika’ has become the ‘graveyard of human rights’.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 10:35 am
WWI wasn’t a religious war by any stretch of the imagination. As bad as it was, and it was bad, it was nothing compared to what followed.
WWII was started by the atheist Hitler and the non-Christian Japanese. The Korean and Vietnam Wars were started by atheist Communists. The Gulf War was started by Muslim Saddam Hussein. The War on Terror was started by Islamic terrorist Osama bin Laden.
You forgot Stalin and Mao, the two radical atheists who murdered nearly 150 million of their own people in the Soviet Union and Communist China, respectively. And then there is the radical atheist Pol Pot who made it a point to murder millions of his fellow Cambodians.
Radical atheist moonbats are real quick to blame America and Christianity while ignoring the past. And they do this religiously. How perverse.
fahvel December 3rd, 2014 at 11:06 am
back to school fool.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 11:07 am
I got an education at a school. What did you get at the school you went to? Obviously you didn’t an education and didn’t learn anything.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:15 pm
Yeah–self-homeschooled…
Dwendt44 December 4th, 2014 at 12:46 am
Must have been one of those rabid right wing christian schools that teach only THEIR version of history, instead of the real history.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:14 pm
You are an “idiot”. You can google it.
Bunya December 3rd, 2014 at 8:22 pm
Oh man! There’s so much bullsh!t in those three paragraphs, I don’t know where to begin.
Sorry, but the crap you manufacture and pull out of your ass doesn’t qualify as fact.
granpa.usthai December 3rd, 2014 at 11:42 pm
Hitler was a Catholic Christian (even met with the Pope) as did Fascist Mussolini. If Stalin had murdered 150 million Russians and the 3rd Reich killed 22 million plus, there would have been very few Russians left. Stalin, himself, was raised in the Georgian Orthodox Christian Religion. After hundreds of years of exploitation by Christian Nations, China, Korea, Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia fought back and won their sovereignty, but not without heavy losses. Same holds true for many other Asian nations (India for one), African nations and South and Central American nations.
Christianity is soaked in the blood of countless billions over the ages,
leaving America to be the ‘graveyard of human rights’.
Dwendt44 December 4th, 2014 at 12:45 am
They right wing nut jobs usually group Stalin, Hitler, and Pol Pot together when excusing christianity. Of course, as Grandpa stated, Hitler was a catholic. Pol Pot was a Buddhist.
NURREDIN December 4th, 2014 at 2:45 am
You don’t have a clue as to what you’re talking about.We split Korea in half when the people wanted freedom,just like we did in Vietnam. Ho Chi min was an attorney who came here and begged for help to get the French out of his country.The French colonized Vietnam so they and Michelin could control the rubber plantations.The Vietnamese were promised elections after WWII,and the French reneged.After the French were defeated,LBJ didn’t want Ho Chi Minh to win an election so he got 57,000 GI’s killed trying to stop the leader the people wanted.If you weren’t so ignorant about the Middle East you’d know that Kuwait is an ILLEGAL monarchy started by the British,BP,and Gulf oil.The British army cut off the southern portion of Iraq to create Kuwait. Saddam’s invasion was the SECOND attempt by Iraq to regain the land stolen by BP and the British Army.When the Ottoman Empire was defeated,the people of the Gulf wanted a Democracy.Hoover armed and financed Ibn Saud so he could start a MONARCHY so we could control the oil.See a pattern here? The Saudi people rose up and had a revolution financed by Ben Laden in 1979,and Jimmy Carter assisted the British and the french in putting down the Democratic revolution so the royal family could maintain control.Those revolutionaries eventually became Al Qaeda.WE caused EVERY problem we have in the Middle east and Asia.You desperately need an education.
Carla Akins December 4th, 2014 at 4:31 am
Bravo
NURREDIN December 4th, 2014 at 2:50 am
P.S. The Afghans hate us because we supported the Shah of Afghanistan,(yes they had a Shah) until they revolted in 1973 and threw him out.They blamed us for all the pain and suffering they went through for decades,and THAT’S why they helped Ben Laden and Al Qaeda attack us in 2001.You really need to take some history courses so you don’t post garbage like a complete buffoon.
cecilia December 5th, 2014 at 5:22 pm
LOL – I love it when people like you claim Hitler was atheist.
“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”- Hitler, Mein Kampf
“In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany. I do not merely talk of Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with parties which destroy Christianity. If many wish today to take threatened Christianity under their protection, where, I would ask, was Christianity for them in these fourteen years when they went arm and arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to Christianity than in these fourteen years when a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same Government.” – Adolf Hitler, Stuttgard, 1933
cecilia December 5th, 2014 at 5:22 pm
LOL – I love it when people like you claim Hitler was atheist.
“Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord.”- Hitler, Mein Kampf
“In the first place it is Christians and not international atheists who now stand at the head of Germany. I do not merely talk of Christianity, no, I also profess that I will never ally myself with parties which destroy Christianity. If many wish today to take threatened Christianity under their protection, where, I would ask, was Christianity for them in these fourteen years when they went arm and arm with atheism? No, never and at no time was greater internal damage done to Christianity than in these fourteen years when a party, theoretically Christian, sat with those who denied God in one and the same Government.” – Adolf Hitler, Stuttgard, 1933
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:14 pm
“Onward, christian soldiers…” Prince of peace my ass.
fahvel December 3rd, 2014 at 11:05 am
when you have no idea about what you say, may I suggest you shut up and study the last 100 years as if you were a scholar and not an elitist fool.
SteveAR December 3rd, 2014 at 11:06 am
Project much? I do know what I’m writing about. I would suggest you take your own advice.
LoriBelle December 3rd, 2014 at 11:29 am
List your sources.
arc99 December 3rd, 2014 at 11:38 am
Then you are guessing wrong.
On the other hand, I do not need to guess. None of those supporting the ban on this mosque have any clue about the US Constitution.
Let me educate you.
Amendment 14
Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce ANY LAW which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;
granpa.usthai December 3rd, 2014 at 10:27 am
then ban Kennesaw from the United States.
fahvel December 3rd, 2014 at 11:03 am
clarke is an ass – xianity kills as many folks as any other religious looney group around. A bit more subtle with drones these days and their killers are so much better dressed than a rag tag of folks wanting to clean up their neighborhoods from invasive western species.
neworleans878 December 3rd, 2014 at 11:40 am
Buffet constitutionalists…freedom for my religion, but not for yours…don’t f*ck with the 2nd amendment and expand it…don’t even get me started on the 4th amendment…
tiredoftea December 3rd, 2014 at 12:33 pm
“But, I’m open, I’m inclusive. Christianity does teach love, inclusiveness, creating a better environment for everyone.”, then prove it by offering your church to the congregation that wants the same opportunity to worship as you have now.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:09 pm
Imagine if they were doing this to some christian offshoot or sect…
tiredoftea December 3rd, 2014 at 1:29 pm
IKR??!! Imagine if some christian group was denied a lease in some strip mall location.
tracey marie December 3rd, 2014 at 1:43 pm
war on christians!!!! ACK
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 3:06 pm
They’d be all up in arms and calling for some smitin’ !
What am I saying–they do that no matter what.
tiredoftea December 3rd, 2014 at 3:37 pm
Poor, poor persecuted christians!
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 3:43 pm
I know, right? If they’d just stop persecuting ME and interfering with MY civil rights, I’d see if I could squeeze out a tear for them…
tiredoftea December 3rd, 2014 at 4:01 pm
I could identify a couple of other bodily fluids I’d rather squeeze out for them.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 4:12 pm
I like the way you think. And you have saved me from having to say a few things here and there. Thank you!
tiredoftea December 3rd, 2014 at 4:28 pm
Feel free to express yourself!
Maxx44 December 3rd, 2014 at 12:49 pm
The ironic clip is from the good pastor Clarke’s church’s website.
I live about 10 miles from Kennesaw, was raised as an Episcopalian, own a business in Lebanon, and travel to the Middle East quite often. I have two business partners who are Muslims, one Sunni and one Shiite, so I do know a bit about Islam and its culture. I would trust those two guys with my life (turns out once at the border with Israel I actually had to do just that). Point being that you can’t judge all members of a group by the actions of a relatively small group of extremists.
As for listing everyone you can think of who is of different political persuasions from yours as a mass murderer, by killing tens of thousands of Iraqis in an unprovoked war, to be fair you would have to add G.W. Bush’s name to the list.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:09 pm
Agreed. Bush and Cheney both are considered war criminals by most civilized nations. and Christians have been killing and maiming women and medical professionals for decades right here in America.
M D Reese December 3rd, 2014 at 1:05 pm
“If Christianity were killing people”…???
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry. I think I’ll do both.
tracey marie December 3rd, 2014 at 1:43 pm
not one of these hillbilly inbreds have a clue what our constituion and laws state
Bunya December 3rd, 2014 at 2:01 pm
To be fair, those inbred Georgia hillbillies aren’t familiar with the constitution, but they sure as sh!t know the president isn’t the right color, and I’d expect most Muslims wouldn’t be either. Sorta puts a damper on their expectations of a “lily white” society.
Chris Hilliard December 7th, 2014 at 8:43 pm
Excuse me i am from Georgia and even i think this is bull shit to deny a place of worship to a religious group. So next time you think about categorizing us as “inbred Georgia hillbillies” think about how ignorant you are going to look to everyone on the internet. The above statement goes for you too tracy marie, At least we know how to use correct grammar and punctuation.
Bunya December 8th, 2014 at 12:04 am
We were being sarcastic. Lighten up. I take a lot of shit for living in Chicago and it doesn’t get my dander up.
RK Johnston December 3rd, 2014 at 2:21 pm
Their REAL Explaination:
“We done it for Jesus!”
–RKJ