Sovereign Citizen Killed By Police After Refusing To Show ID
[su_right_ad]Robert Lawrence was fatally shot by police outside an animal shelter in Dothan, AL.
According to Dothan Police Sgt. Maurice Eggleston, Lawrence, a sovereign citizen, was trying to return a stray animal.
However, Lawrence was told he could not do so without showing his ID. He subsequently got into an argument with shelter employees who called the police.
“After repeatedly being told to calm down, Lawrence was advised he was being placed under arrest,” Sgt. Eggleston told AL.com. “A physical altercation ensued, to which Lawrence was shot in the abdomen.”…
According to DothanEagle.com, Lawrence had a history of threatening violence, and two women had protection orders against him.
“He made a statement threatening violence if somebody at the State DHR didn’t listen to him,” said Geneva County District Attorney Kirke Adams. “He had quite the history with DHR involving custody of his children.”…
Adams said Lawrence never identified himself as a sovereign citizen during the terrorist threat case, but “he sure showed signs of being anti-government.”
Adams also said Lawrence had a clear history of anger issues.[su_csky_ad]
rg9rts January 3rd, 2015 at 9:09 am
New candidate for NRA shooter of the month…professional category…tough competition from Ga. Chief of Police that accidentally shot his wife ……………….twice…
Dwendt44 January 3rd, 2015 at 11:55 am
Reminds me of that old joke about a guy ran around a corner and accidentally got stabbed, 17 times.
rg9rts January 3rd, 2015 at 12:09 pm
Police suspect foul play..
whatthe46 January 3rd, 2015 at 2:06 pm
lol… i’ll get there i promise
rg9rts January 3rd, 2015 at 2:14 pm
We aren’t going anywhere going on 80,000 comments in 9 months…chatty bunch the dozen or so
whatthe46 January 4th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
wow
oldoldtimer January 3rd, 2015 at 9:26 am
So tell me again why we are paying such high prices for tasers the cops will not use? Since when is an ID required? You don’t have to have one to vote or prove you are a citizen.
Carla Akins January 3rd, 2015 at 10:19 am
Actually in Alabama, they passed a “required to show” law. I don’t believe it applies to the shelter personnel, but it does for law enforcement. In no way do I think this excuses the fact that a man (regardless of his ridiculous beliefs) deserves to be killed for refusing to comply.
I can only assume that law enforcement is no longer trained or screened for social skills that defuse situations to prevent them from escalating. This must change.
The biggest irony, he wanted a government shelter to take the pet – the same government a sovereign citizen refuses to acknowledge.
edmeyer_able January 3rd, 2015 at 10:28 am
The people most upset about this in Alabama are the ones that own the private prisons. They just lost a slave ooops I mean worker,
http://blog.al.com/wire/2014/05/alabama_to_allow_private_busin.html
mea_mark January 3rd, 2015 at 9:34 am
What an idiot. Why didn’t he just leave. Let the dog roam around the animal shelter until the people there decide to do something about it.
edmeyer_able January 3rd, 2015 at 9:35 am
A history of anger issues hmmmm…………….maybe I better erase my profile on Disqus…../s
mrsgunka January 3rd, 2015 at 10:01 am
To become a Sovereign Citizen, one must pass Anger 101, silly.
edmeyer_able January 3rd, 2015 at 10:17 am
If they could pass that course they would no longer file for sovereignty.
Jon C January 3rd, 2015 at 10:23 am
Man killed by Dothan cop had violent past http://www.dothaneagle.com/news/crime_court/man-killed-by-dothan-cop-had-violent-past/article_e1e8fc40-913a-
StoneyCurtisll January 3rd, 2015 at 11:12 am
How do you deal with someone who believes the Sandy Hook School mass killing, or the Boston marathon bombing were just faked, using crisis actors and no one actually died..(no matter how much proof you can provide)
And they also believe that if your birth certificate has your name in ‘all caps’ that you are not a sovereign citizen but a possession of a “corporation”..
This crazy nonsense is out here on the internet..
And it takes hold in some peoples marginal grasp of reality
Combine that bizarre mindset with the 2nd amendment, backed by the NRA. (right to own and open carry anywhere)…And fueled by the likes of Alex Jones or Ted Nugent who say not only the government is out to get them, but anyone who disagrees with them is the enemy as well.
Guns and psychotic people who believe in bizarre conspiracy theory’s are a lethal combination..
How are rational people to deal with theses types, who are poised with weapons and openly express their violent intent?
Who do ya call?
StoneyCurtisll January 3rd, 2015 at 12:10 pm
At least half the cops, maybe more are members of the NRA, and you can bet all of them are “down” with Ted Nugent…(uber patriot)..
And those that shun Ted and his not so patriotic past, are probably in the upper ranks of the “Oath Keepers”, (and you think the NRA is scary?)..
The Oath Keepers are military and police, some retired, some full time “authorities” who will not hesitate to “enforce” their interpretation of the ‘laws set about under the constitution”,(as they see it)..
These “patriot groups” believe they have the right to run rough shod over anyone that stands in their way,.. because they have guns, self assumed authority, and of course Jesus on their side….
Who ya gonna call now, non believers?
I almost forgot to mention…
Soylent Green Is Peeepole~!
StoneyCurtisll January 3rd, 2015 at 12:18 pm
Wanna see just how crazy some people are, and the craziness on the internet that feeds them..
Look at this site..
http://www.viewzone.com/collateralx.html
This crazy stuff is what makes these imaginary “sovereign citizens” go bonkers and think they can take up arms and reinforce their delusions, to the point of violence or death.
StoneyCurtisll January 3rd, 2015 at 12:35 pm
This is what the Sovereign citizen movement is all about..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement
Remember the standoff at the Bundy Ranch?
Those people are the very definition of Sovereign citizen movement..
They do not recognize the government,(state or federal), they do not think they have to pay taxes, they do not recognize any law, (other than a local sheriff and his deputies) whom they voted for or appointed…
CarolinaSistah January 3rd, 2015 at 1:19 pm
Resisting arrest is never a good idea. But police showed us with Eric Gardner that they can take down a big unarmed man without shooting him. If this man did not have a weapon, why the need for police to use a weapon on him? Can’t cops take a hit or two? Just sayin’….
causeican January 3rd, 2015 at 2:11 pm
Let the prying begin.
Bunya January 3rd, 2015 at 7:38 pm
He was trying to return a stray animal, not buying a firearm. Why does he need to show an ID?
tracey marie January 4th, 2015 at 5:16 pm
standard procedure at all shelters, the need to know who found the animal and why as well as where the animal is found. Many issues involved, maybe it was a stolen animal or just being dumped, check for chip and see who the owner is, if the animal has a reward the person will be notified and if that person has a history of returning dogs to the shelter. Also if the animal is from an area with a disease that is prevelant and will need to be treated or euthenized
Bunya January 5th, 2015 at 11:41 am
Thanks. I didn’t know that.
Ironic, isn’t it? There are more restrictions/provisions for bringing an animal to a shelter than there are to purchase firearms.
tracey marie January 5th, 2015 at 12:31 pm
I thought the same thing. You are vetted if you want to volunteer at the shelters or foster dogs with a group, I had to go through some pretty tough checks before they accepted me.