Half The Assembled Cops Turn Backs On New York Mayor Again At Funeral
In spite of being asked not to do so by New York Police Commissioner Bill Bratton, half the cops at the funeral for Wenjian Liu turned their backs on Mayor Bill de Blasio.
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mea_mark January 4th, 2015 at 12:08 pm
Time to start terminating people and start over.
whatthe46 January 4th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
AMEN
crc3 January 4th, 2015 at 1:45 pm
Yep…treat them as they act not as something more special than anyone else in NY…
Ray M. January 4th, 2015 at 4:04 pm
Terminating as in killing? (just kidding)
Kim Serrahn January 4th, 2015 at 12:23 pm
Not only are they showing disrespect to the Mayor but to their bosses and fellow officers.
Tellit Likeitis January 4th, 2015 at 12:48 pm
and the family of the dead, and the dead…yeah, these cops need to all be fired and replaced with HUMANS
KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker January 4th, 2015 at 12:51 pm
And to all the citizens of the City and it’s Boroughs.
whatthe46 January 4th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
it would be nice if the people of NYC turned their backs everytime they saw an “officer” pass by. see what it feels feels like to be disrepected even more than what they are now. they are so ignorant i can’t stand it.
Larry Schmitt January 4th, 2015 at 12:54 pm
Instead of being there to salute a fellow officer, they made it all about them. They must be so proud.
Clear_view January 4th, 2015 at 1:25 pm
So much for honor. A bunch of self centered pos!
edmeyer_able January 4th, 2015 at 1:26 pm
Wont do much to further the conversation that needs to take place, but then I imagine there ae a few of them that watch foxnews so…….
crc3 January 4th, 2015 at 1:43 pm
Totally ridiculous! The cops that did turn their backs were acting like CHILDREN. Since they chose to act like CHILDREN they need to be punished accordingly because they refused a direct order. $500 fine?…3 days suspension without pay?…written up for insubordination? Fired? If they don’t respect immediate authority I question whether they can respect ALL citizens of NYC…
Red Eye Robot January 4th, 2015 at 5:07 pm
Commissar Bratton can no sooner tell police officers what they may do in their free time as he could tell them they must go to church on sunday or refrain from eating meat on fridays in lent. The officers of the NYPD are employees not slaves.
Larry Schmitt January 4th, 2015 at 5:10 pm
Free time? They may not be getting paid, but in uniform at a funeral for a fellow officer, they represent the city.
whatthe46 January 4th, 2015 at 5:22 pm
you really don’t expect it to comprehend this post too do you? but, i applaud your effort.
Larry Schmitt January 4th, 2015 at 5:36 pm
Of course not. But I have to keep replying.
whatthe46 January 4th, 2015 at 8:08 pm
LOL
neworleans878 January 4th, 2015 at 5:19 pm
I agree. Can’t infringe on anyone’s First Amendment rights.
Wish they’d respect the Fourth Amendment rights of people.
tracey marie January 4th, 2015 at 6:58 pm
You are wrong, when in Unifporm they do have to conform to the rules, laws and commands of their bosses.
Red Eye Robot January 7th, 2015 at 5:55 am
So if Bratton says they must not eat meat while in uniform on fridays during lent officers must comply?
Ralph January 4th, 2015 at 1:46 pm
A True Democrat :::
Quick Facts You May Not Know About NYC Mayor Bill De Blasio
Here are ten interesting facts you may not know about New York City’s Communist Democrat Mayor Bill de Blasio, who was elected in 2013 with a whopping 72% of the vote. The leftist mayor is accused of fostering an environment that led to the tragic execution-style racial assassinations of two NYPD officers on Saturday.
Bill de Blasio was born Warren Wilhelm, Jr., on May 8, 1961. He first changed his name to the hyphenated Warren de Blasio-Wilhelm, adding his mother’s maiden name. In 2002, he dropped the “Warren” and the “Wilhelm,” and changed his name for a second time to what it is currently, Bill de Blasio.
Bill de Blasio was the campaign manager for Hillary Clinton’s Senate campaign in 2000.
Bill de Blasio was a fervent supporter of the Marxist Sandinista government in Nicaragua in the 1980′s, a government that was backed by the Communist Soviet Union and Cuba.
At the height of Cold War tension, while still a student at New York University, de Blasio toured the Communist Soviet Union in 1983.
His first job was in 1984 with the NYC Department of Juvenile Justice.
Bill de Blasio received a master’s degree in International and Public Affairs at Columbia University, the same school attended by Barack Obama.
Bill de Blasio ran Democrat New York Congressman Charlie Rangel’s re-election campaign in 1994.
In 1994, Bill de Blasio married a lesbian activist, Chirlane McCray. The newlyweds honeymooned in Fidel Castro’s Communist Cuba.
In 2009, de Blasio’s election campaign to be NYC’s third “Public Advocate” was supported by the pro-Communism, Working Families Party.
Both of de Blasio’s parents were communists, leading historian Ron Radosh to describe him as a “bona fide red diaper baby.”
edmeyer_able January 4th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
Fun facts from the ME
The medical examiner ruled Garner’s death a homicide, indicating that his death was caused by the intentional actions of another person.
Fun facts about the man who applied the choke hold.
Daniel Pantaleo
Daniel Pantaleo[46] is a New York City Police Department officer who was, at the time of Garner’s death, age 29 and living in Eltingville, Staten Island.[47] Pantaleo’s father was aNew York City Fire Department firefighter, and his uncle was an NYPD officer. He graduated from Monsignor Farrell High School and received a bachelor’s degree from theCollege of Staten Island. He joined the NYPD in 2006.[48] Pantaleo was the subject of two civil rights lawsuits in 2013 where plaintiffs accused Pantaleo of falsely arresting them and abusing them. In one of the cases, Pantaleo and other officers ordered two black men to strip naked on the street for a search and the charges against the men were dismissed.,[49][50][5
edmeyer_able January 4th, 2015 at 2:13 pm
btw What particular act did the mayor commit is illegal?
Jake January 4th, 2015 at 5:25 pm
He married a black woman, making him a target for ethnically pure republicans everywhere.
edmeyer_able January 4th, 2015 at 2:31 pm
btw Did you know that the guy who killed the cops had 19 felonies and never should have been able to buy a gun albeit for the laws that you deny being passed. Tell us how does it feel to facilitate the deaths of so many innocent people?
Ray M. January 4th, 2015 at 4:02 pm
Did he buy the gun legally?
edmeyer_able January 4th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
The point of my statement is that it SHOULD HAVE BEEN ILLEGAL if you can’t discern that from my statement you don’t belong in the conversation.
Red Eye Robot January 4th, 2015 at 5:01 pm
It’s not should have been, It WAS illegal for him to own a firearm. federal law makes possession of a gun by a felon punishable by 10 years in federal prison. Use of the gun in a crime adds to the sentence. .
edmeyer_able January 4th, 2015 at 5:06 pm
But he wasn’t challenged when he bought the gun because 2A freaks block the bills that could have prevented it.
whatthe46 January 4th, 2015 at 5:21 pm
over his head again don’t cha know.
Pistol-Packing January 5th, 2015 at 1:23 pm
Why are you under the impression that it was the shooter who actually purchased the gun from the Pawn Shop? As stated in other answers, the Pawn shop would have to have filed a form 4473 and the shooter would have had to undergo a NICS check, and with his criminal history, he would have failed.
So I am a little lost at how you can say block the bills that would have prevented it, when this is already law of the land under the Brady Bill.
Kick Frenzy January 4th, 2015 at 6:48 pm
I’m betting he didn’t get the gun at the corner “Grab-a-Gun” and most likely bought it via black market.
Which, according to probability, means the gun probably originated as a straw purchase at a gun show where they don’t have to provide any personal information or go through any background checks.
So, either way, it’s conservative talking points that support keeping these lethal loopholes open and Republican actions that make sure they aren’t addressed properly.
edmeyer_able January 4th, 2015 at 7:15 pm
It was traced to a pawn shop in Georgia that regularly sells guns that end up being used in crimes in states with tougher gun laws.
Kick Frenzy January 4th, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Ah ha… thanks. Sounds like a situation that could use more sensible gun laws.
neworleans878 January 4th, 2015 at 8:25 pm
“Sensible” gun laws?
It’s clear you hate America.
Why do you hate America?
/s
Red Eye Robot January 7th, 2015 at 6:00 am
You are completely wrong. A straw purchase is where someone with a clean background buys the gun for the felon. There is a background check. Your fantasy world where criminals buy guns at gun shows because there are no background checks doesnt exist
Kick Frenzy January 7th, 2015 at 5:37 pm
Actually, it does.
A straw purchase, more strictly speaking, is a purchase one make for another… regardless of who’s a felon.
Sure, your version is the most common, but it’s not the only way it’s accomplished.
If you purchase a gun at a gun show, you don’t need to go through a background check.. so even if you are a felon, you can still purchase a gun for someone else.
Because they don’t check any ID… all that matters is if you have cash to buy the gun(s).
If you think there are no illegal purchases being made at gun shows, you’re being willfully ignorant.
tracey marie January 4th, 2015 at 6:57 pm
True, I bet grimm is upset by this fact as well, he also loses his voting rights.
Larry Schmitt January 4th, 2015 at 6:59 pm
Yeah, that’s what he’s all broken up about.
tracey marie January 4th, 2015 at 7:14 pm
I had to jab him with that
Pistol-Packing January 4th, 2015 at 9:54 pm
The saddest point about your post, is that you know better. IT WAS ILLEGAL for him to purchase and own a firearm. The pawn shop that sold it has a FFL, hence whoever they sold it to, had to fill out form 4473, and they committed a felony also.
So we are obviously dealing with a straw purchase. WHICH IS ALSO ILLEGAL !!!
ChrisVosburg January 4th, 2015 at 10:57 pm
We seem to be missing a step, because as I’m reading ATF’s form 4473, I find little if any onus on the seller to background check the buyer.
Instead, the buyer is threatened multiple times with a shaking of fingers to fill out his portion of the form correctly, or else.
What am I missing?
edmeyer_able January 5th, 2015 at 10:03 am
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Pistol-Packing January 5th, 2015 at 12:01 pm
here is what you are missing. Any firearm purchased through a FFL, is subject to a NICS check through the FBI database. This person would have been stopped at point of purchase due to his criminal record.
That is how Straw purchases are developed, where somebody will take a person who can pass a NICS check, and then hand over the firearm there after. Which by the way, is also illegal.
Regarding Private Sales, I am not familiar with Georgia.s laws. But fairly confident you are not required to run a NICS.
ChrisVosburg January 5th, 2015 at 12:36 pm
Thanks. But the seller portions of the form are so littered with optional, if available, if provided and references to NCIS check exemptions, that it makes it appear that little if any check on due diligence of seller is enforced.
Why, it almost looks as if the sale of the firearm is being facilitated, even encouraged, by arbitrary language and obfuscation. 🙂
Pistol-Packing January 5th, 2015 at 1:18 pm
Not sure what you are referring to honestly. Just want to make sure we are looking at the same document. Here is a link to form 4473 from the ATF website. If you have a specific question regarding a specific section, refernce it from this form, this way we are both talking about the same thing.
https://www.atf.gov/files/forms/download/atf-f-4473-1.pdf
PS: Happy New Year to you.
ChrisVosburg January 5th, 2015 at 3:44 pm
Yep, same one I got. The “ifs” and “optionals” I mention are liberally sprinkled throughout section B questions 21, 22, and 23, and I draw your attention to the instructions for these questions, and especially the voluminous list of NICS exemptions listed there (page six).
Pistol-Packing January 5th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
Here, let me explain what questions 21a-e are for,and why you are seeing the word “If”.
The law states, that NICS has to give an answer within 3 days if there is a delay for some reason, if not the FFL, does have the right to transfer the firearm. None ever will, but they have the right to do so. If you look at 21b regarding the NICS transaction number. Well, if it was delayed, and a transfer took place. Then there would be no number to write in.
On 21c, it refers to if the NICS check comes back as delayed, they have a certain period of time, to finalize. Hence the date. Not all states allow it, so the “If” in that questions refer’s to eligibility.
same thing with 21d, “IF” initial response was Delayed, it is a section to be filled in with the result and the date. Only applicable if there was a delay.
Same with 21e, “If Applicable”, meaning that if the FFL had in fact made the transfer after 3 days, and the response came in afterwords. What was the response.
22, what that means, is that a person who is purchasing a firearm that is classified by the national firearms act which is basically machine guns and fully automatic weapons. that person has to have a tax stamp issued by the federal government. In order to have that stamp, you are sent through the wringer for being background checked, more then you can imagine. So the Stamp itself, is your background check.
23, If you hold a valid CCW, you already have been through the system, thus they are giving the exemption.
Fot the most parts, your concerns about seeing if and Optional, really have no bearing. They are there for specific reasons. It is not that the seller is not conforming to the law, or not wanting to. Hope this helps explain why it is there.
ChrisVosburg January 5th, 2015 at 6:07 pm
Again, thanks.
I’m not at all heartened by the fact that the FFL can transfer the firearm if there is a delay of more than three days in the NICS scheck, and not at all convinced that as you say “but no FFL ever will.”
It just seems that there are so many ways for this mechanism to fail.
But I’ll leave you in peace and wish you a happy new year.
Pistol-Packing January 5th, 2015 at 7:43 pm
I am happy to discuss this with you. It is the only way we learn. I will
give you an example of something that happened about year ago here. New
Jersey is what is called a “Point of Contact” state, where our NICS has
to go through our state police versus the FBI NICS system. The were
having massive problems with their system, and delays at one point had
gone as long as 28 days. There was not one FFL that I know of, who was
willing to make a transfer without the official NICS response.
edmeyer_able January 5th, 2015 at 10:04 am
So what’s your take on CV’s answer?
Pistol-Packing January 5th, 2015 at 12:02 pm
See answer.
mea_mark January 5th, 2015 at 11:28 am
Yet the sale happened.
Pistol-Packing January 5th, 2015 at 12:04 pm
BUt the question is “WHERE” ??? The sale did occur at the pawn shop, and who ever purchased it was qualified to do so, by passing a NICS check. Now how did the firearm go from that person to our killer ??? That my friend, is what Straw Purchases are all about.
neworleans878 January 4th, 2015 at 2:39 pm
“Bill de Blasio received a master’s degree in International and Public Affairs at Columbia University, the same school attended by Barack Obama.”
So…are you insinuating that every one has the same degree from Columbia is a commie too?
Maybe we should all march up Broadway with torches and pitch folks and burn that nest of pinkos out!
You’re a victim of the R.W. media money hate machine my friend. Not every one you disagree with is a commie. Learn to think for yourself…it’ll open up whole new worlds you never knew existed.
arc99 January 4th, 2015 at 2:55 pm
Ralph is doing what so many right wingers do,e.g. copy/pasting verbatim what some right wing website told them to think/
Other than pointing out their mindless plagiarism. parrots who cannot even express their own opinions should be ignored.
http://www.tpnn.com/2014/12/23/ten-quick-facts-you-may-not-know-about-nyc-mayor-bill-de-blasio/
William January 4th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
Columbia also has a really good fencing team. I suspect they are involved in beheadings. I mean it just stands to reason. (I think based upon the unintelligible rant of Ralph, he’s a Mike Savage fan).
Larry Schmitt January 4th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
It would be rather difficult to behead someone with an epee.
William January 4th, 2015 at 5:06 pm
Learn to think for yourself…it’ll open up whole new worlds you never knew existed.
The best advise I’ve seen all day.
arc99 January 4th, 2015 at 3:01 pm
also, the Mayor had eggs for breakfast last week and wore slip-on loafers instead of shoes with laces.
our republic is doomed!!!!
eyelashviper January 5th, 2015 at 10:33 am
and, and, and, he ate pizza with a FORK…
William January 4th, 2015 at 4:17 pm
Both of de Blasio’s parents were communists, leading historian Ron Radosh to describe him as a “bona fide red diaper baby.”
….and
Ted Cruz’s Dad fought alongside Castro.
Now please get to the point.
BTW ..WTF is a “Communist Democrat”?
ChrisVosburg January 4th, 2015 at 4:47 pm
Here’s a “fact you may not know about yourself,” Ralph:
Being too lazy and stupid to do your own thinking and writing, and copying others’ unattributed work into a comments forum, and thinking its breathless assertions revelatory, makes you look like the biggest fucking fool there is.
Ralph January 4th, 2015 at 5:23 pm
You happen to be one of the Most Liberal Think Idiots that Helped Elect That Black Kenya Muslim and therefore you too are an IDIOT.
ChrisVosburg January 4th, 2015 at 5:34 pm
Ya see? Thank you for proving my point with an actual example of your elliptical thinking processes and mad composition skilz, Ralph.
allison1050 January 5th, 2015 at 7:50 pm
oops! You’ve used a “big” word and you know that Ralph isn’t familiar with how to use a dictionary!!
Larry Schmitt January 4th, 2015 at 5:38 pm
You sound like one of us. We make remarks like that all the time. Difference is, we always attach a snark label. You actually, and sadly for you. believe it.
tracey marie January 4th, 2015 at 6:07 pm
wow, you just doubled down on the bagger babble with that comment
Larry Schmitt January 4th, 2015 at 6:08 pm
Everyone needs a hobby.
tracey marie January 4th, 2015 at 6:10 pm
That one repeats his comment often on all the wingnut sites
neworleans878 January 4th, 2015 at 6:35 pm
Man posts at a site that used this illustration to accompany one of their diatribes. Says all any sane person needs to know about this hateful individual.
http://cdn1.eaglerising.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/GayFascist.jpg
tracey marie January 4th, 2015 at 6:55 pm
that is the hammerskin logo or any neo nazi white supremacist group. I noticed his horrible posting history.
Alan January 4th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
let’s stop the name-calling here.
Larry Schmitt January 4th, 2015 at 7:22 pm
I dunno, I consider it a badge of honor being called an idiot by the likes of him.
allison1050 January 5th, 2015 at 10:38 am
Are you referring to our President? ;o)
Alan January 4th, 2015 at 7:09 pm
OMG! He went to the same school as Barach Obama! That seals it.
tracey marie January 4th, 2015 at 7:13 pm
black muslims and marxist…ya know they are the same thing. wink wink
Obewon January 4th, 2015 at 9:10 pm
GOP should get used being in the tiniest less than 1/4 voting minority:
Candidate Voter Percentage.
(D) Bill de Blasio 73.3%-NY Mayor 3:1 Winner!
(R) Joseph J. Lhota-who? 24.3%
Others 2.4% http://www.nytimes.com/projects/elections/2013/general/nyc-mayor/map.html Y’all know half-term Palinbrawl lost by 2:1 53%-(D)365 to (R)173-47%? Followed by another blowout via Mitt’nRyan’s inverse 3:2 landslide (D)332 to (R)206-47%?
jasperjava January 5th, 2015 at 12:41 am
From his posting history, Ralph is a bona fide neo-Nazi who hates de Blasio because he married a Black woman.
Tell you what, Ralph. I’d rather our leaders be radical left-wing socialists, than to be ruled by right-wing fascist thugs. However, President Obama is a moderate centrist, and only mildly liberal on his best days. But he turned this country around after eight years of misrule by war criminals and torturers. All Americans ought to be grateful. Unfortunately, you’re so blinded by racist hatred that you can’t recognize that.
allison1050 January 5th, 2015 at 10:30 am
And this connects to the subject of the article how? It doesn’t.
eyelashviper January 5th, 2015 at 10:31 am
Gee, makes me like him even more. Someone who is not afraid to look at the world as it is, and work to change things for the better, for all.
Communism is a political theory, often misunderstood, and what we need to distrust, and even fear, are dictatorships, whether they be communist, fascist, or corporatism.
Such posts as yours only illuminate your lack of basic understanding…
allison1050 January 5th, 2015 at 10:34 am
Oh sh*t!!! He went to college and worked on his Master’s at Columbia!!!! You sound jealous. ;o)
Stan Ubeki January 6th, 2015 at 9:06 am
I HATE it when 3 out of 4 citizens vote for an official in a democratic election.
That jus ain’t Merkin!
labman57 January 4th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
The NYPD doesn’t mean to act like a cadre of self-absorbed, defiant jerks.
It was a key component of the desired character profile that was used to select worthy candidates during the hiring process, i.e., they simply cannot help themselves.
Boehner-Monkey January 4th, 2015 at 8:00 pm
It is like the cop version of the movie Groundhog Day,
allison1050 January 5th, 2015 at 10:29 am
Just goes to show how little respect their union and the cops have for the Commissioner and the deceased.
CB January 5th, 2015 at 11:29 pm
Much better. Fire half of them. Their pictures are now public.
Make them work to get their jobs back.
This kind of treasonous behaviour can’t be tolerated in the police force.
whatthe46 January 6th, 2015 at 12:09 am
i agree. (but to hell with getting jobs back) and my view is fire all of the higher ranking ones first, as an example, who turned their backs. let me say this; a spouse cannot, unless they waive their rights, to testify against their counterparts. parents have no rights, to not testify against their children regarding a criminal matter. its your duty to assist the govt. by doing the right thing in not covering up for your own flesh and blood child. however, the blue wall, is blue blood, tried and true and you as a fellow officer, will not be frowned upon if you choose NOT to, “squeal” on your blue blood brother/sister, when you see them violate the law you were sworn to upheld. there are no good cops, when “good” cops look away. but, that’s just me.
CB January 6th, 2015 at 12:17 am
Now that is an excellent idea!
I’d suggest the good cops are very clearly identifiable from the picture by the fact that they have their faces turned toward the people’s representative and their boss whilst they are in uniform.
whatthe46 January 6th, 2015 at 12:44 am
here’s my problem and why i say there are no good cops, in a sense. if a “good” cop is aware of any “bad” cops, the mere fact that he has turned his back on morality, in my opinion is a “bad cop” when he doesn’t out the others or cover for the “bad” ones. he/she isn’t helping by staying silent.
CB January 6th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
I get that, and I think it’s a real problem, but I’m also fairly certain the people who didn’t turn their backs on the mayor this time get that too…
It’s not a solid wall of blue this time, which is how it should be. Cops should be doing what’s right, not what everybody else is doing.
CB January 6th, 2015 at 4:36 pm
I get that, and I think it’s a real problem, but I’m also fairly certain the people who didn’t turn their backs on the mayor this time get that too…
It’s not a solid wall of blue this time, which is how it should be. Cops should be doing what’s right, not what everybody else is doing.
Stan Ubeki January 6th, 2015 at 9:57 am
Their own regulations say they can be terminated for participating in political activities while in uniform. This is clearly a political statement.