ISIS Video Purportedly Shows Mass Beheadings Of Christians
It allegedly shows the beheadings of 21 Egyptian Coptic Christians in Libya.
The video is five minutes in length and shows militants accompanying each hostage, dressed in orange jumpsuits, onto a beach and beheading them. It is titled, “A message signed with blood to the nation of the cross.”
In response, Egyptian President Abdel Fattah el-Sissi has reportedly called an urgent meeting of his national security advisers and declared a seven-day period of mourning. One correspondent noted that Egyptian TV channels are airing portions of the gruesome video.
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viva_democracy February 15th, 2015 at 7:02 pm
Let me start by saying that in no way am I justifying ISIS or any other terrorist group.
Now, with that said, ISIS is using their extreme interpretation of their religion to carry out their terrorist killings. In this case, Egyptians who believe in the Christian faith. They say it’s because Christianity is not a religion, etc., etc., etc.
For many, many, many years, many have killed in the name of their religion, even if the religion did not dictate that anyone go out and kill in its name.
But I don’t want to hear the wack-a-doo, fundi, Christian Conservatives come out crying about this because at the end of the day, what are they going to call for? They are going to call for the US to kill ISIS because ISIS killed Christians because they don’t believe that Islam is a religion, so, they too want to kill in the name of the Christian religion.
Circle of religious death.
danybhoy February 15th, 2015 at 7:29 pm
I’m calling for Islamic State to be attacked because it’s a cancer on humanity, & it’s spreading. Also, just like cancer, it needs to be aggressively treated with radiation.
tracey marie February 15th, 2015 at 8:38 pm
no qualification needed when you use facts
fancypants February 15th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
prior to Vietnam we used to Declare war after a congress vote Today its up to congress to tell the president ” he has all the tools ” to win a war. Whatever that’s supposed to mean ?
viva_democracy February 16th, 2015 at 12:56 am
My above comment aside, I think we have to logically look at the cost of these “wars”. Not just the financial costs, but look at what it’s creating.
Yes ISIS is a terrorist group and they need to be stopped, but we have only ourselves to blame for opening a can of worms.
Another problem is our current government. We use drones to kill innocent people along with the supposedly guilty (that’s what we’re told anyway) and because we have this very deep divide between left and right, no one really wants to get involved because they want to use it against the other party and not be held responsible if there’s blowback. But these are real lives. We are affecting real lives. People who are caught in the crosshairs of all of this BS.
I agree WE should not be the only country to go after ISIS, but in the meantime, I’ll guarantee there is another group of angry, displaced people who are not powerful yet, but when ISIS is dead, this new group will rise. It’s like whack-a-mole and we have created this.
fancypants February 16th, 2015 at 8:01 am
I’ll guarantee there is another group of angry, displaced people who are not powerful yet, but when ISIS is dead, this new group will rise
out of curiosity who is this new group ?
viva_democracy February 16th, 2015 at 2:47 pm
Not saying I know the group, but if you’re just an innocent joe trying to get by day to day and another country bombs your city to bits and pieces, kills half or all of your relatives, takes away every shred of your dignity, takes away any humanity you’ve believed in, etc., all in the name of “freedom”, you’re gonna get angry and chances are, you’re gonna do something about it eventually.
As for the second question, I believe this has to be a world effort, regardless of who helped to create them. And you’re right, the door is not being beaten down world wide. America has always poked it’s nose into other countries business and maybe it’s just always expected that it will create and then clean up the mess.
fancypants February 16th, 2015 at 8:33 pm
Here’s the problem as I see it. ISIL is made up of about 8 countries who are allowing their citizens to fight in Syria,iraq,egypt and Afghanistan. The usa is saying OK lets battle here and see who wins ?
When we should be going to those country leaders and saying Why are you allowing your citizens to become ISIL members ? The big problems that have yet be addressed and I don’t see our media addressing this either Its always ” what are we going to do on the battlefield ” very pathetic !
bahlers February 17th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
By we, do you mean the current admin for carelessly ending the conflict in Iraq prematurely?
viva_democracy February 17th, 2015 at 7:45 pm
What conflict in Iraq? The one we created because we invaded them without cause? Why do you choose to call it a “conflict” when the liars who put us there chose to call it a “war”. Why do you downplay it? It should be called an invasion because that’s what it was. An American invasion/occupation.
And ISIS is a symptom of more than just “carelessly ending the conflict in Iraq prematurely” and leaving Iraq is a symptom of more than just “carelessly ending the conflict in Iraq prematurely”.
Robert M. Snyder February 15th, 2015 at 10:08 pm
We didn’t fight the Japanese in WWII because of their religion. Sometimes it’s not about religion. Sometimes it’s about stopping an aggressor. If a group of radical Presbyterians occupied the Massachusetts State House and started beheading government employees, I think most people would fully support using snipers and/or drones to take them out.
viva_democracy February 16th, 2015 at 12:49 am
Nowhere in my comment did I mention going to war over religion(s). I’m trying to say, and probably didn’t do as good a job as I wanted to, that there is no difference between a group like ISIS killing in the name of their religion and fundi Christians calling for ISIS to be killed, mainly because they hate Islam, for the same reason, in the name of their religion.
Yes, I’m sure there are many people who would like to see the end of ISIS because they are a terrorist group, which is why I only mentioned the fundi Christian Conservatives.
My comment is not about the how’s and why’s of the need for the demise of ISIS for the logical reasons.
Robert M. Snyder February 16th, 2015 at 1:35 am
Okay, no problem. I probably didn’t read your post carefully enough. As someone who was raised in a loving Christian church where hating anyone was considered sinful, I strongly object to people like the Westboro Baptist Church calling themselves “Christians”. I suspect that the vast majority of Muslims feel the same way about ISIS calling itself the “Islamic” state. The fact the a handful of radicals misappropriates the name of a religion should not reflect on the religion itself. I’ve only had the privilege of getting to know two Muslims personally. I considered both to be friends, and one even attended my marriage (in a Roman Catholic church). I prefer to believe that the majority of Muslims are just like the majority of Christians: basically peace-loving folks who would prefer to live and let live, but who can unfortunately be manipulated by charismatic leaders who appeal to their fears rather than their hopes. It’s amazing how much damage a handful of charismatic leaders can do.
viva_democracy February 16th, 2015 at 2:42 pm
Thanks. I didn’t mean to sound condesending, so I apologize if I did. I realized that my comment could have been better explained.
I come from a background of Fundi Christians, so I get to hear their hypocrisy all the time but I do not wish to blanket every religious person into the same blanket.
KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker February 16th, 2015 at 8:42 am
“Religion Poison’s Everything” …..RIP Hitch
Apocalypse February 16th, 2015 at 5:42 pm
A long article…but worth reading
What ISIS Really Wants
The Islamic State is no mere collection of psychopaths. It is a religious group with carefully considered beliefs, among them that it is a key agent of the coming apocalypse. Here’s what that means for its strategy—and for how to stop it.