By D.B. Hirsch
March 4, 2015 10:00 am - NewsBehavingBadly.com
Every so often, you meet one of those old people who existed before manners. They use terms like “colored” and “negro,” to which all good people wince at and then try to explain to them that, no, these are no longer appropriate labels. Senator Jim Honeyford is one of those old people; during a committee hearing…
D.B. Hirsch is a political activist, news junkie, and retired ad copy writer and spin doctor. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.
ShelleysLeg March 4th, 2015 at 10:13 am
And here I thought most LARGE crimes are committed by corporations? Who knew?
William March 4th, 2015 at 10:16 am
So I’m guessing the people over at the fair and balanced network will be tripping over themselves to interview this guy and bestow their hero tag on him.
rg9rts March 4th, 2015 at 10:31 am
This is the type of guy you could explain to him till you are blue in the face and he still wont get it
Guy Lauten March 4th, 2015 at 10:32 am
Hey Reince… How’s that “re-branding” thingy workin’ for ya’?
Larry Schmitt March 4th, 2015 at 11:23 am
You get way too many chances to use that. You’re gonna wear it out.
Guy Lauten March 4th, 2015 at 12:53 pm
I’m on a mission from dog. 😛
Suzanne McFly March 4th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
Awww, I thought that was my mission 🙁
tiredoftea March 4th, 2015 at 12:44 pm
Subtlety is not his strong suit.
oldfart March 4th, 2015 at 1:26 pm
what ?, African American is too many words ??????
the real sad part of this story is the fact that racism isn’t dying
even after old idiots like this do…
Robert M. Snyder March 5th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
“African American is too many words ?”
The phrase “African American” is problematic. It is based on the false supposition that anyone with dark skin has recent ancestors who came to America from the African continent. Suppose you are an Australian Aborigine and you move to the USA. Would you like to be called an African American?
Suppose you came from Jamaica or Cuba where you were descended from five generations of Jamaicans or Cubans. The term African American ignores your Jamaican or Cuban heritage and focuses only on your skin color. The term Latino is similar in this regard.
The point is that the term African American is, for practical purposes, a synonym for Black. If your skin is black, people will call you African American, regardless of your ethnicity. So why not just say Black?
Nobody seems to be bothered by using the term White to refer to people who may have come to America from Scandinavia, Russia, Poland, or Greece. The countries have very different cultures, yet we apply the term “white” to anyone having light skin, without regard to ethnicity. So what is wrong with just using the term “black”?
Calling all dark-skinned people African American is just not accurate. Imagine if we called all light-skinned people “European Americans”. For one thing, there are a lot of blacks in Europe, and there are a lot of whites and blacks in Australia and New Zealand. You simply cannot look at a person’s skin color and infer that their ancestors originated on a specific continent.
If you google the phrases “African Canadian”, “African European”, or “African Australian”, you will get very few hits. We seem to be the only country that equates skin color with a specific national origin.
Egypt is part of the African continent. Are Egyptian Americans considered African Americans? Of course not, because African American is merely a synonym for Black.
oldfart March 5th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
i remember not to long ago there was a survey of sorts asking the question what was the preferred “label” specifically for black folks to be called black or African american, it is to this i refer and no surprise it also had a split result as well but African american did win the preferred address. something to help take pride in their heritage i assume (and personally applaud).
Robert M. Snyder March 5th, 2015 at 3:15 pm
I once worked in a university research lab. We had a visiting scholar from Africa. If someone saw him on the street, they might have said that he is “African-American”. But he was not American. He was African. So the term “African-American” makes two unfounded assumptions, namely, the a person or his ancestors are from Africa and that he is currently an American citizen. Without knowing the person, you really can’t assume either one.
Also, there’s this:
oldfart March 6th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
unless you’re saying you agree with using the term colored, then i think your oversimplified tangent has gone askew and my point still stands.
Robert M. Snyder March 7th, 2015 at 10:23 pm
I’m suggesting that the term African-American is almost as bad.
Last evening I had dinner with a group of people. One of the women was a South African citizen before she moved to America and became an American citizen. She is a white African-American.
When you see a black person walking down the street, you cannot assume that they are African and you cannot assume that they are American. And when you see a white person walking down the street, you cannot assume that they are not African-American.
A person’s skin color tells you nothing about their current or past nationality.
Making assumptions about a person on the basis of skin color is what we are supposed to avoid, right?
whatthe46 March 7th, 2015 at 10:57 pm
“…African and you cannot assume that they are American.” because of your ignorance is why you don’t know the difference.
oldfart March 8th, 2015 at 11:40 am
oh i see, your being deliberately obtuse to disagree with my reply of a man who is still living in the past because i chose to be politically correct. please avail yourself to the down arrow. my point still stands.
Robert M. Snyder March 8th, 2015 at 12:56 pm
When you see someone on the street who has dark skin, you know nothing about that person’s ancestry, heritage, lineage, nationality, citizenship, or genetic makeup. It’s perfectly legitimate to describe that person’s physical features (short, fat, walks with a limp, or black). It is not legitimate to assume that a person is of African descent or that they are an American citizen based solely on their appearance. Assuming things about a person based solely on their appearance is where prejudice begins. I want no part of that, therefore I would never describe a person who is unknown to me as an African-American. There are white African-Americans and there are black Swedish-Americans. The people in Ferguson said “Black lives matter”. They did not say “African-American lives matter”. People who discriminate do not stop to ask a person’s ancestry or citizenship. They make snap judgments based upon skin color and other physical characteristics. If you use the term African-American as a synonym for Black, then you are doing the same thing.
Bunya March 4th, 2015 at 1:51 pm
What does he considered “colored”? I’m guessing anything that isn’t lily white. And if that’s the case, John Boehner could be out committing crimes as we speak.
tracey marie March 4th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
why I remeber the good old days when colored people knew their place and were not uppity negroes like that half breed in my wh, his momma should be ashamed fornicating with some black buck in kenya ….
jybarz March 4th, 2015 at 2:32 pm
This whitey just committed a crime and he doesn’t know he did.
FatRat March 4th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
SNL Season 2: Episode 18
Garrett Morris: [ interrupting ] Well, I think I understand the problem with the tests. But the fact is that people have been saying that white people are smarter than black for hundreds of years. We’ve only had I.Q. tests for 20 or 30 years. How did the idea of white intellectual superiority originate?
Julian Bond: That’s an interesting point. My theory is that it’s based on the fact that light-skinned blacks are smarter than dark-skinned blacks.
Garrett Morris: [ not sure he heard that right ] Say what?
Suzanne McFly March 4th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
It’s generally accepted that the poor are more likely to commit crimes
Is this the reason Wall St. can break the law time and time again and no one goes to jail? Officers don’t know how to arrest people who make over a $100,000 a year?
craig7120 March 4th, 2015 at 5:33 pm
Hillary Clinton stories provokes comments from Trees, John Tarter, robot, and other defenders of the gop but run a story about this racist sob and the defenders of the gop are no shows, why?
You’d think they embrace and defend this cretin.
What I don’t expect is a denouncement
John Tarter March 4th, 2015 at 9:05 pm
No defense of this person from me but just a couple of questions. Why is the term “person of color” acceptable, but not the reverse term “colored person”? And is not a white person a “person of color” too?
Ronald L March 4th, 2015 at 10:13 pm
>> we are not like you liberals who actually defended former Klan Kleagle, the late Sen. Robert K. Byrd,
Robert Byrd REPENTED of his racism and spent his career working for racial equality.
So, yes, he was not like a conservative.
craig7120 March 4th, 2015 at 10:49 pm
Oh, no doubt she’s a target but she’s gonna beat you as if you’re a rented mule. Your party supports, defends or just gives safe harbor to the racists creeps of your extreme wing, no, scratch that, what is now your base, every decent person has crossed over years ago. Your party has no chance in a general, good riddance.
Terrible people y’all are, unable to denounce the vile scum because of your political leanings.
burqa March 5th, 2015 at 12:44 am
Got anything on the topic?
Anything at all?
Or did you show up just to run away just as craig7120 said?
burqa March 5th, 2015 at 12:43 am
Tune in to Red Eye Radio late at night and you’ll get robot’s defense. He’ll deny the relevance and accuracy of any pertinent facts that apply to the case and use it to show why libruls are racists.
granpa.usthai March 5th, 2015 at 12:49 am
kinda hard to be a kriminal when…
YOU”RE NEVER EVER CHARGED TO BEGIN WITH!
ref: FAILED BUNDY overthrow of the US Government with the white racist terrorist and their stolen US Military armaments for 1.
Warman1138 March 5th, 2015 at 3:30 am
Too dumb to retire and too stupid to speak.
bpollen March 5th, 2015 at 4:04 am
You’re colored too, you pink bastard!