Indiana Business Owner Celebrates ‘Religious Liberty’ By Turning Away Gays
[su_right_ad]He’s so proud of what he’s doing, he refuses to give his name.
…he had told some LGBT “people” that equipment was broken in his restaurant and he couldn’t serve them even though it wasn’t and other people were already eating at the tables. “So, yes, I have discriminated,” he told RadioNOW 100.9 hosts. The hosts were surprised the owner said he was okay with discriminating.
“Well, I feel okay with it because it’s my place of business, I pay the rent, I’ve built it with all my money and my doing. It’s my place; I can do whatever I want with it, “he said. “They can have their lifestyle and do their own thing in their own place or with people that want to be with them.”
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nola878 March 28th, 2015 at 4:15 pm
Clearly not a true American. True Americans believe in equal rights for all.
rg9rts March 28th, 2015 at 5:10 pm
And a free market economy
fahvel March 29th, 2015 at 3:01 am
which will eat you alive as it is an insatiable beast led by insatiable beasts who don’t give a damn if you, the individual, live or buy.
rg9rts March 29th, 2015 at 6:12 am
This also give the buyer the option to not participate…the argument over labeling GMO’s …..label the products and let the free market show what is acceptable or what will rot on the shelves
burqa March 29th, 2015 at 8:04 am
………………………………………………………………….and football….
fahvel March 29th, 2015 at 3:00 am
I think you are overestimating the american public and clinging to an elementary school maxim.
burqa March 29th, 2015 at 8:01 am
I think nola878 stated a classic American ideal that we have been working toward since the signing of the Declaration of Independence, if not previous to that.
This is what that whole “perfecting of the union” or striving “for a more perfect union” – thing is about. Sorry, I’m tired and forget the precise phrase.
But this is the course we have been on all along.
We have been getting better since the founding of the nation by becoming more equal in terms of rights. Having the law secure the rights of women, minorities, ethnic and racial groups has made us a better nation and there is still work to do.
If we regard the effort for equality to be for children, then we will not progress as quickly as we would otherwise.
raypc800 March 28th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Ah but by law would that not mean that Jews, Muslims any non-Christian religious business owners can deny service to any not of the same faith as themselves? Just asking
KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker March 28th, 2015 at 4:25 pm
Just another bigot using religion as an excuse to discriminate. Nothing new here.
allison1050 March 28th, 2015 at 7:03 pm
Unfortunate but sadly true.
burqa March 29th, 2015 at 7:52 am
Bigots will find any reason to discriminate against people who have a characteristic not shared by the bigot.
No, really, basic temptations and aspects of human character can be found among all sorts of people.
There are bigots who discriminate because of their religion, there are those who discriminate against people of faith,
There are bigots who hate people who are gay, and there are gays who are bigots.
There are bigots who discriminate on the basis of race, nationality or ethnicity.
I have known landlords who refused to rent to anyone under 30.
Yes, some bigots discriminate on account of their religion, but they are a subset of a much larger group that discriminates for all kinds of reasons, religion being one of many, some of which I mentioned, above.
Gindy51 March 28th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
Such a coward too, won’t tell anyone what his business is so we can all AVOID it.
Bunya March 28th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
To be fair, just look at these folks. They don’t look like anything I’d plow. They’re probably thinking, if they’re not getting any, nobody should.
burqa March 29th, 2015 at 7:43 am
My parents are Christians and I had (before a few of them died) 16 aunts and uncles. My father’s side of the family continues the tradition and family reunions are ridiculous.
I have done a considerable amount of genealogy and have Christian ancestors with as many as 18 kids in one family. Quite a few had numbers of children in the double digits, so I’d say they were all “getting any.”
We’re not even Catholic, either!
Here, as previously, your inability to realize that there are widely different sects with significant differences so over 1 billion people are not as identical as you imagine. There are quite a few Christians with some rather libertine views.
This is what happens when one resorts to lazy thinking and employs blanket stereotypes, rather than showing this very simple, obvious trait of human nature. We’re not all clones and as ideologically-based organizations grow, factions develop and often they split. As they come more and more into conflict, their differences grow and are emphasized more. Also, as time goes by, popular culture and various events can cause some of these sects to grow even more remote from the parent group they once sprang from.
Even within a sect or a church, if it is a religious group, schisms and factions are often found.
You began the post attempting “To be fair” but immediately failed when you dealt with them unfairly and with such ignorance of them and of human nature in general as to draw all the negative light you were casting back on yourself.
Learn nuance!
Get involved with local affairs and organizations and you will see what I described, above in political, social, religious or other organizations once they get large enough.
I am glad to help you understand this aspect of human nature…….
Bunya March 30th, 2015 at 1:51 pm
And the next time you’re walking down the street, notice all the Muslims, Jews, gays, Atheists, etc. whose taxpayer dollars go to subsidize these Christian organizations, which wouldn’t exist were it not for the generosity of these fine people.
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Before you lecture me on anything, know this. Homosexuality existed long before the bible was written. It was man who invented hate, and it was the religious bigots who blindly followed the hate down thru the centuries. I don’t care how many Christian sects exists. Discrimination against anybody is wrong, in my opinion.
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And one more thing; I don’t buy that “love the sinner, hate the sin” bullshit, Statements like that are merely veiled attempts to conceal their hatred. And, quite frankly, I don’t think homosexuality is a sin and I challenge anybody to prove otherwise.
FatRat March 28th, 2015 at 5:02 pm
Does anyone know the proud name of his eatery? If so, please visit his restaurant (or not) and give him the review he truly deserves. The dollar votes should be a strong indicator if he wants to try and monetize homophobia.
http://unearthedcomics.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/Unearthed-SticksAndStonesYelp-1301-2-web.jpg
rg9rts March 28th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
I’m sure the name of his illustrious establishment will become famous
Larry Schmitt March 28th, 2015 at 5:10 pm
But not for the excellent quality of crap he serves on plates.
rg9rts March 28th, 2015 at 5:11 pm
Don’t think that will be a problem …
Larry Schmitt March 28th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
I’m curious. Do the gay people of Indiana carry signs that say “I’m gay” or does this idiot assume (we all know what happens when we do that) that two men together or two women together are gay? And he’s proving himself to be as stupid as the owners of the Woolworth’s in North Carolina in the 50’s. He’s willing to turn away paying customers to prove how stupid he is.
rg9rts March 28th, 2015 at 5:12 pm
He must go nuts on christmas..”now we don our gay apparel”
burqa March 29th, 2015 at 5:42 am
Think he owns any books written by Gay Talese?
rg9rts March 29th, 2015 at 6:08 am
no
burqa March 29th, 2015 at 7:13 am
How big would a hemorrhoid have to be for the fella to use Ben Gay on it?
Baseball-sized?
Larry Schmitt March 29th, 2015 at 7:46 am
Reminds me of this story. Over reaction can have its price.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/sleuth/2008/07/christian_sites_ban_on_g_word.html
labman57 March 28th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
Not having learned anything from their bigotry-motivated mistakes of the past, social conservatives strive to once again end up on the wrong side of history.
jstsmlbrlcnsrvtvguy March 28th, 2015 at 5:44 pm
If Senators Lindsey Graham and Larry Craig want to share a couple of his entrees (not that there’s anything wrong with that),…
Ronald L March 28th, 2015 at 6:02 pm
>> “Well, I feel okay with it because it’s my place of business, I pay the rent, I’ve built it with all my money and my doing. It’s my place; I can do whatever I want with it, “he said.
The arrogance and stupidity of this guy is so discouraging.
Did he build the roads going to his building? Did he hire the cops and firefighters who protect his business? Did he create the monetary system that allows people to pay for his food? Did he create the courts that allow him to incorporate? Did he create the food inspection system that allows him to buy safe food?
No, we taxpayers built that.
And that includes gay taxpayers.
Obewon March 28th, 2015 at 6:07 pm
When his business IS identified, we have plenty of reviews to post!
“Ask for Gayry! He’s faaaaaaabuuuuulouths,” wrote one Yelp reviewer. “Like, I mean, O-M-G-Awethsome!”
“[This is] the best gay bar in Oklahoma!” remarked Faye Galbraith on Facebook. “Although I must say Gary is far from subtle…the way he struts around in his sparkly pink mankini made me a tad uncomfortable.” http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/10/anti-gay-restaurant-garys-chicaros-pranked-by-internet-yelp_n_4759713.html
Ronald L March 28th, 2015 at 6:12 pm
I read your link – it is funny. It’s a charming trait of the gay community that they can laugh when they rightfully could be be outraged.
Chinese Democracy March 28th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
isnt this a health and safety violation? I mean even if he wears gloves
fahvel March 29th, 2015 at 2:57 am
not if he had the plastic hat to cover his hair
FatRat March 28th, 2015 at 8:03 pm
Wow!!!!! Gary James is not a fan of disabled American vets in wheelchairs. I cant fathom the depths of this person psyche, it is sicker than I thought possible and I have an active imagination.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/02/10/anti-gay-restaurant-garys-chicaros-pranked-by-internet-yelp_n_4759713.html
Yet perhaps the most powerful reviewer opted to be sincere rather than sarcastic.
“As a combat vet who fought for all Americans [sic] freedom, I hope you and your bigoted views change,” Scott from Washington said. “I will never eat a bite of food in this pit you call a restaurant. You are an embarrassment to this land. You are anti American.”
James doesn’t limit his bigotry to homosexuals. He’s been accused of refusing to serve disabled people and has said hateful things about welfare recipients, too. The restaurant’s motto is “Where The Great Whites Gather,” and its signature T-shirts disparage Muslims, blacks and Democrats.
burqa March 29th, 2015 at 7:08 am
“Reviews of the food, drinks, service and decor varied among our reviewers but they were all unanimous in advising patrons to not use the restrooms as there is a line at both doors of people waiting to get in to leave an upper decker and the cleaning crew can’t keep up…”
uzza March 28th, 2015 at 8:47 pm
Another thing he did with it was take out a business license. In which he made a deal with the state: we’ll let you run this operation and you agree to serve the public.
PUBLIC noun All the citizens of a State, including blacks, gays, Muslims, atheists, Satanists, and whoever else walks in the door.
Since he’s not keeping his end of the bargain–pull his business license.
burqa March 29th, 2015 at 7:06 am
At the risk of sounding pedantic, would it be a teensy bit better to say he “entered into a contract” with the state rather than “made a deal”?
Don’t get me wrong, your point is solid as it is.
Foundryman March 28th, 2015 at 6:50 pm
I have to drive through Indiana to see the grandkids. I’m just glad my truck gets good enough mileage to go through non stop.
burqa March 29th, 2015 at 6:59 am
What if you found out the name of this guy’s business?
Wouldn’t you find the urge to stop and leave the owner an upper decker difficult to resist?
Snick1946 March 29th, 2015 at 11:03 am
Watch out for the pot holes. I can always tell when I cross into Indiana- the roads all go to hell.
Foundryman March 30th, 2015 at 10:11 pm
Just got back, and you are 100% correct. The roads are the worst, and the bridges are crumbling all along I70 and I69. It’ pathetic, all I could think of while driving is what a freakin joke. Abortion and gays, ten commandments and pictures in courthouses and claiming it’s all about freedom of religion while their state crumbles.
Roctuna March 28th, 2015 at 8:05 pm
Notice that he did not claim any religious reasons. He lied about broken equipment and then proceeded to justify his discrimination using the new law. No “deeply held religious beliefs” were invoked, just his bigotry. This is exactly what Pence said wouldn’t happen even though everyone knew it’s exactly what would happen. Disgusting.
bpollen March 28th, 2015 at 10:54 pm
If I minced into his restaurant with pink spandex and an orange crop top (shudder…) and he refuses me service, then I can sue him for discrimination. I really doubt horrible heterosexual fashion sense violates his religious beliefs… assuming he has any.
jybarz March 29th, 2015 at 3:46 am
He’ll stand out like dog’s balls if all fair minded & decent businesses put up a sign, as suggested around, that says something like “Everyone is Welcome…All, no exception!”
Warman1138 March 29th, 2015 at 4:35 am
After the dust settles, states that discriminate will find themselves marked as ” a poor place to do business ” regardless of their illusions and attempted rationalizations. Prepare for massive backpedalling come Monday with generous amounts of misinformation.
William March 29th, 2015 at 8:52 am
The saddest part of this entire debacle is the cowardice. Bigots and narrow minded right wing a-holes again hide behind “religion” No longer doing business with any concerns from Indiana. Before you buy any good or services, check thehome address. Even if it’s something as simple as an Amazon purchase, and let them know why you won’t do business with them. It’s up to the people of Indiana to take this to their legislature.
tracey marie March 29th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
He is a coward bigot with no religion