March 29, 2015 8:00 pm -

[su_right_ad]Tone deaf to the direction of the country, and even to business interests, Indiana Governor Mike Pence is doubling down on the “Religious Freedom” law he signed.

Pence said that the issue had been turned into “shameless rhetoric” and that the law is about strengthening the foundation of First Amendment rights rather than discrimination. He did not answer repeated questions about whether the law would allow business owners to discriminate against gay or lesbian individuals.

Pence, a Republican, signed the Religious Freedom and Restoration Act into Indiana law Thursday. The law intends to prevent the government from infringing on individual’s religious beliefs, Pence said, but opponents say the law allows business owners to use religion as a reason to legally discriminate against members of the LGBT community.



D.B. Hirsch
D.B. Hirsch is a political activist, news junkie, and retired ad copy writer and spin doctor. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.

23 responses to Pence Says ‘Religious Freedom’ Law ‘Won’t Change’

  1. jybarz March 29th, 2015 at 1:11 pm

    Is he really clueless or pretends to be one?

    • StoneyCurtisll March 29th, 2015 at 1:59 pm

      Pence is not clueless…
      He is just a liar.

      • granpa.usthai March 30th, 2015 at 3:56 am

        goes with being a member of ‘the’ party.

  2. raypc800 March 29th, 2015 at 1:14 pm

    All Federal dollars should be cut from going into the state of IN.

    • Jeffrey Samuels March 29th, 2015 at 1:38 pm

      or better yet, all gay people should be exempt from paying state taxes until they are no longer treated as second class citizens

      • fahvel March 30th, 2015 at 4:32 am

        every last person who is negatively affected by this law should simply leave the state, taking their economic contributions with them. I think penny brain would be surprised at how many would be on the train.

  3. labman57 March 29th, 2015 at 1:20 pm

    “This is not about discrimination …”
    Translation: “Pay no attention to the homophobic business owners thumping their chests behind the curtain!”

    Reality check: the Indiana legislation is most definitely government-sanctioned discrimination — it’s how the Republican Party envisions “American exceptionalism”.

    Not having learned anything from their bigotry-motivated mistakes of the past, social conservatives strive to once again end up on the wrong side of history.

  4. KABoink_after_wingnut_hacker March 29th, 2015 at 1:39 pm

    This discrimination law will not stand for long because it is clearly unconstitutional.
    Even Jan Brewer was not stupid enough to sign similar legislation into law.
    Pence the putz ain’t so smart.

    • StoneyCurtisll March 29th, 2015 at 1:58 pm

      Of all the crazies, Jan Brewer came to her senses~!

  5. StoneyCurtisll March 29th, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    Mike Pence is a god damned liar…
    The he goes on to blame Clinton and Obama for his own bigotry.

  6. StoneyCurtisll March 29th, 2015 at 1:44 pm

    Mike Pence is a god damned liar…
    Then he goes on to blame Clinton and Obama for his own bigotry.

  7. StoneyCurtisll March 29th, 2015 at 1:52 pm

    However, you may purchase male or female slaves from
    among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of
    such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You
    may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent
    inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel,
    your relatives, must never be treated this way.

    (Leviticus 25:44-46)

    Looks like slavery and the buying and selling of children is now legal in Indiana.

  8. StoneyCurtisll March 29th, 2015 at 1:57 pm

    Slaves, obey your earthly masters with deep respect
    and fear. Serve them sincerely as you would serve Christ. (Ephesians 6:5 )

    Just one more example of why I’m not a Christian and happy I dont live in Indiana, where it appears that slavery and bigotry is now promoted by law.

  9. ExPFCWintergreen March 29th, 2015 at 2:04 pm

    This is just about Hoosier Hospitality and protecting the right of all Hoosiers to exercise their Constitutional freedom of association on religious grounds. And if in the process they happen to make Indiana Homofrei, well that can’t be helped now, can it?

    • StoneyCurtisll March 29th, 2015 at 2:08 pm


  10. StoneyCurtisll March 29th, 2015 at 2:07 pm

    The new face of hatred and bigotry..
    If I was talented I would put a postage stamp mustache on him.

  11. Gindy51 March 29th, 2015 at 4:44 pm

    The people in the IN state house send out questionnaires every six months or so to find out what their constituents think. Most of the people who return them are old, racist, bigoted, homophobic farts with little else to do. Busy moms and dads, singles who barely glance at snail mail, and most others do not bother to return them. The legislators read these and put out a summary of what they are told by those who send them back (you need to add postage to it which is another reason most folks trash them). I turn mine in every time and every time what I get back as results are 180% off what I write. THAT is why this bill was even able to make it to the floor for a vote. If you want to know why this happened anyone in IN who does not turn in their questionnaire LOOK IN THE FUCKING MIRROR.

  12. Angelo_Frank March 29th, 2015 at 6:06 pm

    Mike Pence should be glad Indiana businesses can’t refuse service to bigoted and revoltingly fake Christians.- John Fugelsang

    • granpa.usthai March 30th, 2015 at 4:00 am

      why not under the /new/ law?
      customer: I’d like to purchase this item, please.
      business: FU — u r a fake xtian so get the hell out cause I don’t want my glorified business being dirtied by fake xtians!

  13. Aielyn March 29th, 2015 at 10:26 pm

    The problem is, nobody is asking the right question. The focus has been on “does this mean that people can discriminate against gays?” but what should be asked is “given that the US constitution already protects the right to individual religion, what exactly does this law do to protect religious freedom, rather than the imposition of a person’s religious belief on others?”

    Discrimination against gays is just one facet of the issue. And by asking it the way I just did (probably needs some further tweaking, since I wrote that off the top of my head, very quickly), it forces them to actually provide an answer beyond “it protects religious freedoms”.

    • granpa.usthai March 30th, 2015 at 4:08 am

      but the whole point IS to discriminate against gays, which will also include in time:
      and/or any damn body they choose.
      Public businesses are opened for the selected by the owners.
      get a grip
      get smart
      get the hell out of indiana.
      let ’em go back to the pre-colonial era
      oh. and introduce legislation to have them expelled from the union.
      let them become an outer province of Arkansas.