The Party of McVeigh
[su_sky_ad]Leonard Pitts Jr. dares to go there:
[The bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Building in Oklahoma City] was to contain one last surprise. It came when we learned why [domestic terrorist Timothy] McVeigh committed his atrocity. It seems he hated the government. …
Twenty years ago, the idea of anti-government resistance seemed confined to a lunatic fringe operating in the shadows beyond the mainstream. Twenty years later, it is the mainstream, the beating heart of the Republican Party. And while certainly no responsible figure on the right advocates or condones what he did, it is just as certain that McVeigh’s violent antipathy toward Washington, his conviction that America’s government is America’s enemy, has bound itself to the very DNA of modern conservatism.
It lives in Grover Norquist’s pledge to shrink government down until “we can drown it in the bathtub,” in Chuck Norris’ musing about the need for “a second American revolution,” in Michele Bachmann’s fear that the census is an evil conspiracy. It lives in dozens of right-wing terror plots documented by the Southern Poverty Law Center since the 1995 bombing, including last year’s murder of two police officers and a Wal-Mart shopper by two anti-government activists in Las Vegas. It lives in Cliven Bundy’s armed standoff with federal officials.
These days, it is an article of faith on the political right that “government” is a faceless, amorphous Other.
But this government brought itself into being with three words — “We the people” — and they are neither incidental nor insignificant.
Pitts’s trenchant, erudite observation (you should read it in its entirety) goes to press as eliminationist troublemakers continue to flock to Oregon:
A man who owns a gold-mining claim on federal land in southwestern Oregon asked for help defending it after U.S. authorities ordered him to stop work, but he is now telling his armed supporters to back off.
Rick Barclay said Thursday that he hoped to prevent his fight with federal regulators from turning into the kind of high-profile standoff at a Nevada ranch last year.
He initially called in a local chapter of constitutional activists known as the Oath Keepers because he thought the U.S. Bureau of Land Management would seize the equipment on his mining claim outside Grants Pass. The agency had served an order to stop work at the mine after finding it lacked the necessary paperwork.
Armed activists started showing up Monday at the mine and a rural property about 20 miles away, Oath Keepers spokeswoman Mary Emerick said. She said the group was still recruiting people to help provide security for the mine but would not say how many activists were there.
Eight people, two of them armed with pistols, could be seen at two staging areas outside Grants Pass. They refused to answer questions. …
Barclay is telling his supporters that the mine is not under attack, posts online by “keyboard warriors” have gotten out of hand, and he was not interested in a repeat of the Cliven Bundy ranch standoff.
Somehow, I don’t buy that last part – at least insofar as what Barclay was thinking before the ammosexuals and seditionists started showing up. His renunciation of his open carry fellow travelers came several days too late.
Anomaly 100 April 18th, 2015 at 8:12 am
These people are a huge threat to America. You can aim rifles at Feds and there are no consequences, but walking while black will get you a bullet in the back.
I’m gonna go hug my cat. I hate people.
Larry Schmitt April 18th, 2015 at 9:04 am
You can also make the most vile threats against the president and other public officials, and suffer no consequences. I’m looking at you, Nugent.
Anomaly 100 April 18th, 2015 at 9:09 am
IKR? That wouldn’t have gone down well during Bush’s time in office.
Larry Schmitt April 18th, 2015 at 9:13 am
Imagine the spectacle if someone had threatened Dubya’s life. How quickly would congress have jumped on it?
Anomaly 100 April 18th, 2015 at 9:18 am
Two words: Dixie Chicks.
Larry Schmitt April 18th, 2015 at 9:57 am
And they didn’t even threaten anyone. They just had the temerity to express an opinion different from the goobers who seem to make up the majority of the gop.
StoneyCurtisll April 18th, 2015 at 10:20 pm
here ya go…
Anomaly 100 April 19th, 2015 at 8:25 am
granpa.usthai April 18th, 2015 at 9:14 am
this very remote ‘gold mine’ that’s being required to provide the regulatory paper work to be in order would be the perfect place to have a nuclear armed missile test mishap. If you don’t know who or how many of the enemy that doesn’t recognize the existence of US are there, it would be nigh on impossible to find any trace of them in the green glowing ashes in the upper stratosphere.
Jake April 18th, 2015 at 10:05 am
And yet they whine like stuck pigs when McVeigh is identified correctly as a Republican Terrorist.
OldLefty April 18th, 2015 at 10:08 am
Off topic, but I always felt bad for the kid who played Dewey from Malcolm in the Middle, as he looked like Timothy McVeigh.
Bagga April 18th, 2015 at 10:34 am
You just gotta love it. Can’t argue with statistics. Or Democrats!
In 1865 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan.
In 1984 James Huberty a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a
In 1986 Patrick Sherril a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 15 people in an
Oklahoma post office.
In 1990 James Pough a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC
In 1991 George Hennard a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 23 people in a
In 1995 James Daniel Simpson a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 5 coworkers
in a Texas laboratory.
In 1999 Larry Asbrook a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 8 people at a
In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed
attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.
In 2003 Douglas Williams a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people at a
Lockheed Martin plant.
In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people
in Virginia Tech .
In 2010 a mentally ill Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner shot Rep. Gabrielle
Giffords and killed 6 others.
In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes went into a movie theater and
shot and killed 12 people.
In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people in
In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people in a
One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not.
Larry Schmitt April 18th, 2015 at 10:54 am
You’re missing the point. Nowhere in the linked article does it say McVeigh was a republican. The writer is saying that his sentiments have found their way into the heart of today’s republican party. A person’s party, or how he votes, has nothing do with whether he will turn into a mass murderer. If you looked long enough, you could find just as many bombers and mass murderers who were republican, democrat and independent.
dave-dr-gonzo April 18th, 2015 at 11:07 am
From my froend M. Stborski, who has done extensive research on domestic terrorism:
You’ve just got to love it. The absolute, verifiable, undeniable proof that all mass shooters are Democrats turns out to be false!
CLAIM: In 1863 a Democrat shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.
FALSE. His name, unfortunately, is lost to history – as just two years later in 1865 Lincoln was shot and killed AGAIN by John Wilkes Booth, a supporter of slavery and Confederate sympathizer who was a member of the Know Nothing Party which grew from various anti-Catholic and anti-Immigrant nativist parties of the time.
CLAIM: In 1881 a left wing radical Democrat shot James Garfield, President of the United States who later died from the wound.
FALSE. Charles Guiteau was a member of the REPUBLICAN Party, (Yes, THAT Republican Party!,) initially supporting US Grant. In fact, he wrote a speech (read: cliché-filled rant) entitled “Grant vs Hancock” to be delivered in 1880 but revised it, (Essentially crossing out “Grant” and writing in “Garfield”,) when Garfield became the Republican favorite at the 1880 convention. The speech was given at least twice and widely circulated among Republicans, including at the 1880 RNC summer meeting. As a result Guiteau felt that he was responsible for Garfield’s success and was owed an ambassadorship. His constant badgering of Garfield and other cabinet members eventually forced Secretary of State James Blaine to demand Guiteau get lost and never return. Guiteau stalked Garfield for some time before eventually pulling the trigger.]
CLAIM: In 1963 a radical left wing socialist shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.
TRUISH, Lee Harvey Oswald was a “left wing socialist”, though I’m uncertain how that equates with “progressive liberal Democrat” in any reality than that of the far-right nutjob.
CLAIM: In 1975 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States.
FALSE. Sara Jane Moore was a bookkeeper for William Randolph Hearst’s “People In Need”. She was not a Democrat, but a self-professed Marxist. She was also an informant for the FBI during her romp through various Bay Area underground movements. Both doctors and federal agents who have interviewed Moore can’t explain her assassination attempt. She lies truly outside of every pattern. She purchased a gun with the intent to shoot Ford then almost immediately called San Francisco Police Inspector Jack O’Shea claiming she was going to Stanford to “test the system” and he should arrest her. O’Shea called the FBI who called the Secret Service who interviewed Moore, confiscated her weapon and ammo and then released her the following day. Moore purchased another gun, made several calls to authorities who brilliantly ignored her pleas for arrest. She then went to the St Francis Hotel and took aim at Ford, firing only ONE shot before being wrestled to the ground by a decorated former Marine. (A homosexual Marine at that!) I give more credence to the conspiracy theories that Moore was a brainwashed agent of an FBI/SS plot to assassinate Ford than to her inclusion on this list.
In case you wonder if this refers to Lynette “Squeaky” Fromme, it can’t. A former Manson Family member, Fromme’s attack came just seventeen days prior to Moore’s and while Fromme may have been a left-wing freak she never actually fired a shot. It’s possible Fromme was a Democrat but her attempt on Ford’s life was in regard to the “plight of the California Redwoods”.
Sidenote: Moore’s name is conveniently left off these e-mails because many of them refer to “white male violence.” ether in the e-mail itself or in the initial commentary when posted in forums. It would not do to have a bothersome fact interrupt the overall flow of the deluded narrative…
CLAIM: In 1983 a registered Democrat shot and wounded Ronald Reagan, President of the United States.
NO PROOF. There is no evidence that John Hinckley, Jr was a Democrat. His parents were registered REPUBLICANS, though. Of course, Hinckley shot at Reagan in 1981 so maybe there was another attempt that we never heard about. The only basis we have for his inclusion here is that he shot at a Republican, (Similar to the inclusion of Guiteau,) however before stalking and shooting Reagan, he stalked Jimmy Carter, a Democrat for a while before being arrested in Tennessee on a weapons charge. Before that he stalked Jodie Foster. I don’t know what her affiliation is.
CLAIM: In 1984 James Huberty, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 22 people in a McDonalds restaurant.
NO PROOF. There is no available evidence that James Huberty was a Democrat. On the day of the shooting, however, Huberty told his wife that he hated, “children, Mexicans and the United States.” The number of victims was actually 21.
CLAIM: In 1986 Patrick Sherril, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.
NO PROOF. There is no available evidence that Patrick Sherrill, not Sherril, was a Democrat. This is the incident that coined the phrase “going postal”.
CLAIM: In 1990 James Pough, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.
NO PROOF. There is no available evidence that James Pough was a Democrat. The number of victims was actually 11. For those tracking the “white male violence” angle, Pough was African American.
CLAIM: In 1991 George Hennard, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 23 people in a Lubys cafeteria in Killeen, TX.
NO PROOF. There is no available evidence that Hennard was a Democrat, however he lived in Texas which, again, does not record party affiliations on voter registration.
CLAIM: In 1995 James Daniel Simpson, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.
NO PROOF. There is no available evidence that Simpson was a Democrat. Yet again, a resident of Texas which does not record party affiliations on voter registration.
CLAIM: In 1999 Larry Asbrook, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 8 people at a church service.
NO PROOF. There is no available evidence that Ashbrook, (not Asbrook,) was a Democrat. And guess what? He lived in Texas too! So far the single, most common thread is that five of these idiots lived in Texas and whoever compiled the list is miserable at correct dates, names, victim counts and facts!
CLAIM: In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the U.S.
FALSE. Robert W Pickett was a “disgruntled former employee of the Internal Revenue Service” but there is no available evidence that he was a Democrat. Told to leave work in the 1980’s, Pickett embarked on a succession of lawsuits against the IRS, his immediate superior and his union the National Treasury Emplpoyees Union. While he did fire shots “in the general direction of the White House” he used a handgun and did not aim. After the initial shots were fired Pickett threatened suicide until he was shot in the knee and secured. There is more evidence that this was an attempt at suicide by cop than that Bush was the target.
CLAIM: In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.
NO PROOF. There is no available evidence that Williams was a Democrat.
CLAIM: In 2007 a registered Democrat named Seung – Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech .
FALSE. Seung-Hui Cho moved to America with his parents, as a child. While of voting age, Cho was a US Permanent Resident Alien, a status which allowed him to vote in local and state elections open to any non-citizen. However, Cho lived in Virginia which, as previously stated, has non-partisan voter registration. His party affiliation would not be listed. Oh, Virginia also requires full US Citizenship to participate in ANY election, meaning Cho would not even be able to even register to vote!
CLAIM: In 2010 a mentally ill registered Democrat named Jared Lee Loughner shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and killed 6 others.
FALSE. Wishing does not make it so. The Washington Post confirms that Jared Lee Loughner registered as an Independent in 2006, voted at least twice, and was listed as “inactive” for the 2010 elections. At the time of the shooting, BOTH sides attempted to paint Loughner in the colors of the other. Both sides were wrong.
CLAIM: In 2011 a registered Democrat named James Holmes went into a movie theater and shot and killed 12 people.
FALSE. This was reported by ABC News and Breitbart blogger Joel Pollack. However, ABC’s Brian Williams and the Breitbart website issued RETRACTIONS (Breitbart went so far as to admit that due to inability to match dates and addresses, Holmes may not have even been registered to vote,) and Williams issued an APOLOGY. Apparently someone found a James Holmes on Democratic rolls but failed to check that it was the same person as the shooter. It was not. Despite this, Holmes continues to be listed on newer versions. I did not search for the “chicken or the egg” relationship between ABC and Breitbart. Both were culpable, both took timely, corrective action.
CLAIM: In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.
NO PROOF. There is no available evidence that Engeldinger was a Democrat.
CLAIM: In 2013 a registered Democrat named Adam Lanza shot and killed 26 people in a school in Newtown, CT.
FALSE. Adam Lanza’s registration has never been verified. This claim is based on another claim that in Connecticut, registered Democrats outnumber registered Republicans 2-1, the theory being with so many more Dems in CT, Lanza MUST be one! Except that his hometown of Newtown is primarily a “red” area and there are (unverified) reports that his mother was a registered Republican. As of October, 2012, CT registrations are comprised of 20% Rep, 37% Dem and 42% unaffiliated. In CT, party affiliation is optional at registration and a voter has the right to become unaffiliated at will. Using the freewheeling method of logic so adored by this e-mail compiler it is more probable that Lanza was independent or unaffiliated as they outnumber either party.
NEW CLAIM IN NEW VERSION OF “CUT’N’PASTE” LIST: As recently as Sept 2013, an angry Democrat shot 12 at a Navy ship yard.
NO PROOF. There is no available evidence that Aaron Alexis was a Democrat but he was a Buddhist. He was last registered to vote in New York City in 2002 according to NBC News, but his affiliation was not given. Also not a “white male”.
CLAIM: One could go on, but you get the point, even if the media does not.
TRUE: You are either a bald-faced liar or an embarrassingly misinformed idiot who passes on anything, no matter how FALSE, that supports their narrow, prejudiced, hate-catalyzed point of view.
So which is it: liar, or dupe?
Larry Schmitt April 18th, 2015 at 11:17 am
What a surprise, someone comes on this site and tries to argue with made up “facts.” Color me shocked.
FatRat April 18th, 2015 at 11:38 am
Do you want to see something really scary? (smile)
Handy List of Republican Sex Offenders
Twilight Zone the Movie
The passenger then asks the driver, “Do you want to see something really scary?”
Liar, dupe or dittohead? Must consult my Magic Eight Ball. (shakes vigorousy)
StoneyCurtisll April 18th, 2015 at 10:17 pm
Obewon April 18th, 2015 at 1:38 pm
DHS: “An attack by right wing radicals is either carried out or foiled every 34 days” in the USA via DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson.
Partial list of Terrorism Directed At ‘Liberal’ And ‘Government’ Targets July 2008-2011: An Interactive Map By David Neiwert http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/violence-directed-liberal-and-govern — July 2008: A gunman named Jim David Adkisson, agitated at how “liberals” are “destroying America,” walks into a Unitarian Church and opens fire, killing two churchgoers and wounding four others.
— October 2008: Two neo-Nazis are arrested in Tennessee in a plot to murder dozens of African-Americans, culminating in the assassination of President Obama.
— December 2008: A pair of “Patriot” movement radicals — the father-son team of Bruce and Joshua Turnidge, who wanted “to attack the political infrastructure” — threaten a bank in Woodburn, Oregon, with a bomb in the hopes of extorting money that would end their financial difficulties, for which they blamed the government. Instead, the bomb goes off and kills two police officers. The men eventually are convicted and sentenced to death for the crime.
— December 2008: In Belfast, Maine, police discover the makings of a nuclear “dirty bomb” in the basement of a white supremacist shot dead by his wife. The man, who was independently wealthy, reportedly was agitated about the election of President Obama and was crafting a plan to set off the bomb.
— January 2009: A white supremacist named Keith Luke embarks on a killing rampage in Brockton, Mass., raping and wounding a black woman and killing her sister, then killing a homeless man before being captured by police as he is en route to a Jewish community center.
— February 2009: A Marine named Kody Brittingham is arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate President Obama. Brittingham also collected white-supremacist material.
— February 2009: A 60-year-old former Republican Party campaign volunteer opens fire on a gathering of Chilena exchange students in an apartment complex in Miramar Beach, Fla., after telling a neighbor he wanted to start a “revolution” against Latino immigrants.
— April 2009: A white supremacist named Richard Poplawski opens fire on three Pittsburgh police officers who come to his house on a domestic-violence call and kills all three, because he believed President Obama intended to take away the guns of white citizens like himself. Poplawski is currently awaiting trial.
— April 2009: Another gunman in Okaloosa County, Florida, similarly fearful of Obama’s purported gun-grabbing plans, kills two deputies when they come to arrest him in a domestic-violence matter, then is killed himself in a shootout with police.
— May 2009: A “sovereign citizen” named Scott Roeder walks into a church in Wichita, Kansas, and assassinates abortion provider Dr. George Tiller.
— June 2009: A Holocaust denier and right-wing tax protester named James Von Brunn opens fire at the Holocaust Museum, killing a security guard.
— February 2010: An angry tax protester named Joseph Ray Stack flies an airplane into the building housing IRS offices in Austin, Texas. (Media are reluctant to label this one “domestic terrorism” too.)
— March 2010: Seven militiamen from the Hutaree Militia in Michigan and Ohio are arrested and charged with plotting to assassinate local police officers with the intent of sparking a new civil war.
— March 2010: An anti-government extremist named John Patrick Bedell walks into the Pentagon and opens fire, wounding two officers before he is himself shot dead.
— May 2010: A “sovereign citizen” from Georgia is arrested in Tennessee and charged with plotting the violent takeover of a local county courthouse.
— May 2010: A still-unidentified white man walks into a Jacksonville, Fla., mosque and sets it afire, simultaneously setting off a pipe bomb.
— May 2010: Two “sovereign citizens” named Jerry and Joe Kane gun down two police officers who pull them over for a traffic violation, and then wound two more officers in a shootout in which both of them are eventually killed.
— July 2010: An agitated right-winger and convict named Byron Williams loads up on weapons and drives to the Bay Area intent on attacking the offices of the Tides Foundation and the ACLU, but is intercepted by state patrolmen and engages them in a shootout and armed standoff in which two officers and Williams are wounded.
— September 2010: A Concord, N.C., man is arrested and charged with plotting to blow up a North Carolina abortion clinic. The man, 26-year–old Justin Carl Moose, referred to himself as the “Christian counterpart to (Osama) bin Laden” in a taped undercover meeting with a federal informant.
— January 2011: A 22-year-old gunman named Jared Lee Loughner with a long grudge against Rep. Gabrielle Giffords and a paranoid hatred of the government walks into a public Giffords event and shoots her in the head, then keeps firing, killing six people and wounding 14 more. Gifford miraculously survives.
— January 2011: A backpack bomb with the potential of killing or injuring dozens of people is found along the route of a Martin Luther King Day “unity march” in downtown Spokane.
— January 31, 2011: An Army veteran from California with a previous arrest record for making threats against President Bush is arrested for making terrorist outside a mosque in Michigan inside a car whose trunk was filled with Class C explosives.
— March 2011: Five people in the Fairbanks area are arrested on charges of plotting to kidnap or kill state troopers and a Fairbanks judge. All five are self-proclaimed “sovereign citizens,” including local militia leader Schaeffer Cox.
— March 2011: A man from Madera, CA, named Donny Eugene Mower is arrested for the firebombing of a Planned Parenthood clinic and the vandalization of a local Islamic religious center. The crimes were committed in the name of Mower’s one-man hate group, the American Nationalist Brotherhood. His ‘manifesto’ asked: ‘Isn’t it time that someone hit back?’
Guy Lauten April 18th, 2015 at 2:30 pm
“Can’t argue with statistics”
But you can argue with lies. QED:
Mike April 18th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
You must be new to the internets…that list has been debunked in about 50 other chat rooms…LMFAO
tracey marie April 18th, 2015 at 5:16 pm
bagger and cut paste fool
Foundryman April 18th, 2015 at 10:39 am
Just like when they gunned down students at Kent State, It comes as no surprise that after 20 years the right wing dominated media sweeps this under the rug to the point it’s almost forgotten.
What McVeigh did is the perfect example of how far other right wing extremists will go to further their agenda. It is not only possible we’ll see something like this again, but likely. When they talk of “second amendment remedies” and taking back their country, this is what they are calling for. After all, it is what McVeigh said he was doing.
dave-dr-gonzo April 18th, 2015 at 11:17 am
See below, including my reply, and let’s take a poll: is “Bagga” an intentional liar, or a useful idiot dupe?
Larry Schmitt April 18th, 2015 at 11:19 am
I vote he’s an intentionally lying, useful (that’s up for debate) idiot (definitely) dupe (or is it dope?). The best of everything, a jack of all trades. If he were a baseball player, he’d be a five tool player.
dave-dr-gonzo April 18th, 2015 at 11:51 am
A jackass of all trades?
mea_mark April 18th, 2015 at 11:58 am
A troll spewing lies. Whether or not he is an idiot is not important. He does show though how far the right will go to further their delusions. Bagga is clearly a member of the the party of McVeigh.
Foundryman April 18th, 2015 at 3:02 pm
A one post and run delusional twit is what came to my mind when I seen his post…but I can go with useful idiot dupe.
Guy Lauten April 18th, 2015 at 3:33 pm
intentional PAID liar
Mike April 18th, 2015 at 3:58 pm
tracey marie April 18th, 2015 at 5:15 pm
Shoot them, when you interfer and threaten government people, shoot them in the head
John Tarter April 19th, 2015 at 8:50 am
And the Democrats? So far left it isn’t funny. They would be more at home in Soviet Russia than wrapping themselves in the American flag and claiming they love the U.S. Constitution.
Just who was it that embraced the violent OCCUPY people? Why the mainstream Democrats of course. They never met a leftist radical cause they didn’t like. At one time the Democrat Party was mainstream, but no longer. Harry Truman and JFK would not recognize this political party anymore.
William April 19th, 2015 at 9:11 am
“Why our present President himself cavorted with a radical violent domestic terrorist himself ”
Dwendt44 April 19th, 2015 at 5:46 pm
What ‘cavorted’? He served on a committee with Bill Ayers (IF that’s the supposed terrorist) and attended a afternoon coffee at his house. There was no association involved. But then again, facts don’t matter to idiots and conservatives.
William April 19th, 2015 at 5:53 pm
Don’t forget reverend Wright. It just wouldn’t be a proper right wing, Fox fed rant if you don’t mention Reverend Wright. That one has always confused me a little. The same people who claim the President is a Muslim, will tell you that he is radicalized for spending at least a decade sitting in a pew ata United Church of Christ parish.
John Tarter April 19th, 2015 at 8:07 pm
Ah, you mean a racist and America hating United Church of Christ parish.
OldLefty April 20th, 2015 at 7:48 am
Why shouldn’t conservatives like Rev Wright??
Rev Wright blamed 9/11 on the US government using it’s awesome power to oppress the people.
Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson blamed 9/11 on the US government NOT using it’s awesome power to oppress the people.
Why are the “limited government, don’t tread on me” crowd on the fainting couch over
Wright’s remarks, yet comfortable with those of Jerry Falwell, and Pat Robertson?
Could it be the dashiki?
Dwendt44 April 20th, 2015 at 6:32 pm
Or maybe that Rev. Wright wasn’t fat rich lily white bible thumper.
They totally ignore the basis for Wright’s couple of rants. The using black men for STD testing. among others.
OldLefty April 20th, 2015 at 6:38 pm
Also Wright was ranting about the government.
I would have thought they would have agreed.
William April 20th, 2015 at 8:22 am
Poor Skippy. You just have nothing (as usual)
Dwendt44 April 20th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
Based on thirty seconds during a sermon over the 20 years Obama was a member.
John Tarter April 19th, 2015 at 8:03 pm
That’s because the US
OldLefty April 20th, 2015 at 7:45 am
File charges for WHAT???
If you haven’t demanded charges be filed against the last administration, we really don’t need to hear from you now.
William April 20th, 2015 at 8:19 am
Well apparently you guys must be in love with Holder, as the pathetic Repugs refuse to confirm his replacement.
dsadlowski April 20th, 2015 at 1:52 pm
So true Reagan was just the Communicator of the BIG LIE and the Conservative movement of FASCISM.
Fascism……………right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism characterized as, chauvinistic.
Trickle down trickle down repeat after me trickle down the GOP Polices to destroy our country to create a Oligarchy for the kiddies just like the old Confederacy.
The Reagan Revolution’s Morning in America is here and it is not a pretty day.
The Hippies-Yuppie Grumpy’s they have come to be the The Generation of ME sold out the nations prosperity thanks to their greed.
Since the 1980s they all have believed what Reagan told them on their TV’s they to would live the life of Dynasty, all we had to do you see is give the Capitalist class everything for Tax free to them just no you or me.
Instead of wealth peeing down on you and me, we destroyed the democracy all because we believed the Big Lies Reagan the B Movie actor who told us on our TVS we would all be rich as rich as can be.
This is what the reagan revolution was all about.
Powerful and Continuing Nationalism Reagan communicated to Americans after the failure of Vietnam Nixon and the mess left to Carter by the GOP Nixon…….that we are EXCEPTIONAl they love those Mottos In god We Trust, One Nation under God all wrapped in a Commie Chinese made American flag they bought at NON Union Walmart as they are clinging to their bible and guns fearful of those desert dwellers in the middle east. .
Disdain for the Recognition of Human Rights The Party gave us torture back and GITMO. Mandatory sentences for pot.
THE PARTY has their scapegoats they have a list of them. How the southern strategy has worked for them for the last 30 plus years now. Blame and project what you are actually doing on that scapegoat. Goebbels would be so proud.
Supremacy of the Military …THE PARTY claims we are broke but always seem to find the money for WAR BUDGETS.
RAMPANT SEXISM …THE PARTY has a war on woman and gays .
THE PARTY has their own propaganda news FOX NEWSPEAK were they make the lies BIG repeat them often the other 5 corporate owned media pick it up it becomes truth in the eyes of the people. Again Goebbels would be so proud.
THE PARTY’S Obsession with National Security gave us the Patriot act and NSA the rights to spy on us. First they went after them muslims most Americans did not care yet they were always spying on us.
THE PARTY courted the religious right now they act against the basic tenets of that religion. No food for you no shelter for you and damn sure no health ace for you……….Compassionate christians now say you can do it we will give you moral support and pray that you do now be like the little train that could I think i can I think I can.
THE PARTY Protects that CORPORATE POWER .ALWAYS they are now PEOPLE with souls and morals they defend in courts and claim will have to in heaven.
THE PARTY started union busting during the days of ST FASCIST REAGAN and 1984 came right on time. Right to work for less one GOP state at a time.
THE PARTY has a Distain for the educated and why THE PARTY is trying to destroy education with their Christian reconstruction creation bull and making profits off student loans and then making good Patriot serfs of them and not good citizen. .
THE PARTY’S Obsession with crime and punishment gave us the drug war 3 strikes laws mandatory sentences and our shoot first laws.
Rampant Cronyism and Corruption with Five Radical Male right wing social engineering judges to make it so for them.
And how can we forget THE PARTY STEALING of elections 2000 and suppressing the votes and selling arms to Iran to hold those hostage just a few more days gutting voting right act.
OldLefty April 19th, 2015 at 9:45 am
And the Democrats? So far left it isn’t funny. They would be more at home in Soviet Russia than wrapping themselves in the American flag and claiming they love the U.S. Constitution.
Actually, it’s EXACTLY the opposite. It is the Republicans who have moved so far to the right.
You only have to look at the party platforms, especially the Republican Party Platform of 1956, which was like Democratic platform of today.
Today’s Democrats are to the right of Eisenhower, whom the Birchers (the 1950’s, 1960’s version of the Tea party) called a communist.
And, “President Barack Obama has governed as a moderate conservative,”
– former Reagan administration domestic policy aide Bruce Bartlett
What is a “leftist radical”???
What is the “Democrat Party” and what does it have to do with Truman and JFK ?
And you guys said the same thing about Truman and JFK as you say now about Obama;
Two days before President Kennedy’s trip to Dallas,
John Birchers began circulating around the city some 5,000 anti-Kennedy
“Wanted for Treason,”
The handbills shrieked:
“This man is wanted for
treasonous activities against the United States:
1. Betraying the
Constitution (which he is sworn to uphold):
turning the sovereignty of the U.S. over to the communist controlled United
betraying our friends (Cuba, Katanga, Portugal) and befriending our enemies (Russia,
2. He has been WRONG on
innumerable issues affecting the security of the U.S. (United Nations-Berlin
wall-Missile removal-Cuba-Wheat deals-Test Ban Treaty, etc.).
3. He has been lax in
enforcing Communist Registration laws.
4. He has given support
and encouragement to the Communist inspired racial riots.
5. He has illegally
invaded a sovereign State with federal troops.
6. He has consistently
appointed Anti-Christians to Federal office:
Supreme Court in its Anti-Christian rulings.
known Communists abound in Federal offices.
7. He has been caught in
fantastic LIES to the American people (including personal ones like his
previous marriage and divorce).”
What does that mean?, Bundys, the
Does that include every fringe group that latched onto them….?
Does that apply to the Tea Party crowd as well? (StormFront, American Third Position, Council of Conservative Citizens, Bundys, the Huteree Militia, A Ku Klux Klansman working for General Electricand an accomplice are facing terrorism charges in Upstate New York for allegedly planning to build a mobile X-ray weapon to kill Muslims and other “enemies of Israel,” federal authorities announced Wednesday.???
Dwendt44 April 19th, 2015 at 5:44 pm
If anything, President Obama is a moderate Democrat. The wacky right has moved the goal posts so far to the right that Genghis Khan would be considered a lefty.
AmusedAmused April 20th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
Dude, Genghis Khan? He was a total commie. After all, he allowed complete freedom of worship to the twelve or so people he left alive. Even a couple of Muslims!! It don’t get much leftier than that.
James April 19th, 2015 at 3:04 pm
“Just who was it that embraced the violent OCCUPY people? Why the mainstream Democrats of course.”
No, they didn’t. There was tentative backing among some high profile Democrats at Occupy’s inception when they thought they could weasel votes out of it who then threw OWS under the bus the moment the bad press started. Occupy, by the way, was non-partisan and apolitical from the start and wanted no assistance or support from the Democrats OR the Republicans whatsoever.
Your whole post just sounds like right-wing talking points that you don’t even understand.
arc99 April 19th, 2015 at 4:23 pm
You are lying again.
OWS was not a violent movement. People who were exercising their first amendment rights had no control over a few criminals and vandals looking to take advantage of a large crowd.
So on behalf of my wife who participated in an Occupy protest from her wheelchair in Manteca, CA f*ck you and your lying right wing bullsh*t…
arc99 April 19th, 2015 at 4:29 pm
Incidentally, since you pretend to be oh so offended by violence, why do you have not a word of criticism for these oath keeper types armed to the teeth. Firearms 101 teaches us that you never ever draw your weapon unless you are fully prepared to use it.
At least you are consistent. Every post of yours is either a lie or a monument to hypocrisy or both.
StayGoldenPonyBoy April 19th, 2015 at 5:04 pm
The occupy people didn’t kill anybody. Timmy McVey would be right at home in today’s tea party movement.
illinoisboy1977 April 20th, 2015 at 1:30 pm
Um… I don’t think the Tea Party killed anyone, either. Just saying.
Dwendt44 April 20th, 2015 at 6:24 pm
Some of the racist elements in the TeaParty, and the presence of military style weapons on open display could suggest it wouldn’t take much to start doing just that..
illinoisboy1977 April 21st, 2015 at 11:00 am
There are miles of difference, between potential for violence and actual acts of violence.
frambley1 April 20th, 2015 at 2:37 am
As usual all that people on the right can do is build up straw versions of what democrats and lefties believe.
Soviet Russia, anarchists, The President and reverse racism
It is a waste of time trying to argue against such things because the right wing punditry and their echo chamber followers just constantly misrepresent reality.
illinoisboy1977 April 20th, 2015 at 1:30 pm
All true, but there are those on the left who do the same thing, to people on the right. It’s all about being alarmist and sensationalist, in order to sell papers and magazines or gather ratings. There will always be those who believe the tripe, on both sides, and keep the accusations flying. It’s what keeps those pundits employed.
frambley1 April 20th, 2015 at 10:27 pm
The people that I admire that would be labelled ‘on the left’ do not do that. You can fact check Thom Hartmann, Rachel Maddow, and Alan as much as you want and never find a logical fallacy like those that are so common on the right. And the more comedy driven people like Jon Stewart and Bill Maher can only really be accused of exaggeration, not lying or misrepresenting those that they disagree with.
AmusedAmused April 20th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
Dude. I grew up in the Soviet Union. You conservatives remind me of no one so much as the old Communist Party ideologues. The same love of authoritarianism, the same violent adherence to an insanely narrow and arkane notion of “family values” (betcha didn’t know the Soviets were really super into traditional family values, huh? lay off the screeching pamphlets and read a serious book sometime, you might learn something new), the same obsession with people’s sex lives, the same drive to regulate art and music, the same suspicion towards science, the same contempt for intellectuals, hell, the same abuse of the environment and contempt for environmentalism (betcha didn’t expect that one, either). In fact, the similarities between you and them are so uncanny, it’s like a dejavu for me. A disturbing, scary dejavu.
BillTheCat45 April 21st, 2015 at 7:42 pm
Cry more Joe McCarthy wanna be moron.
Rhonda Painter April 19th, 2015 at 11:24 pm
I’m from the OKC metro and I will NEVER forget who bombed us and why!
illinoisboy1977 April 20th, 2015 at 1:39 pm
Fact: He’s on federal land, with a permit. Fact: The BLM has complete oversight authority of his claim, which he agreed to when he signed on the dotted line.
If he has an issue with the way the government is overseeing his claim, he should take it to arbitration. If the government decides to revoke his permit, at this point, he has no one to blame but himself. As someone on the right, I wouldn’t support the government doing this on PRIVATE property, but this is PUBLIC land. They have every legal right to order a stand-down of operations, while they make sure the paperwork is in order. Refusal to comply can, and should, result in the loss of his claim.
dsadlowski April 20th, 2015 at 1:49 pm
Reagan’s Morning in America is here and well it is not a pretty day.
That Southern Strategy worked. just read some of the comments from the bozo’s below.