Chuck Norris Worried About Military Takeover Of Texas
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Martial arts star Chuck Norris gives a speech to introduce Texas Republican gubernatorial candidate Greg Abbott at a campaign event Monday, Nov. 3, 2014, in Houston. (AP Photo/Pat Sullivan)
Chuck Norris is buying into the far-right conspiracy that military exercises in the Southwest means a possible takeover of Texas.
Norris, who has become a prominent conservative activist, published a column on the conspiracy theory website WND that told readers not to trust what the federal government has been saying about a military training exercise known as Jade Helm 15.
Some conspiracy theorists have warned that the exercise, which is set to take place later this year in Texas and six other western states, may lead to a covert takeover of some of those states. Last week, Texas Gov. Greg Abbott (R) ordered the State Guard to monitor the operation.
“The U.S. government says, ‘It’s just a training exercise.’ But I’m not sure the term ‘just’ has any reference to reality when the government uses it,” Norris wrote in his column. “Whatever Jade Helm 15 actually is, I think it is more than coincidental that the FBI director just confessed in February that the presence of ISIS can be felt in all 50 states of the U.S. and that the Pentagon is suddenly running its biggest military training exercise with every branch of the military across seven Southwestern states.”He also praised Abbott, who he said had attended a recent event for his karate charity. Norris said he “laughed as some progressives in the mainstream media tried to mock” Abbott’s decision to monitor the exercise.
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tracey marie May 4th, 2015 at 4:06 pm
Norris, the slightly less foul teabagger then Nugent.
Billy Anderson May 4th, 2015 at 4:37 pm
We don’t need the military on our streets. Please
Check out “The Doctrine of Exclusive Salvation in Scriptures” on
“YouTube”. God is about to allow “The Chastisement” to happen
because heretics refuse to follow Jesus Christ. Jesus Christ himself
founded the Traditional Catholic Church and God is getting ready to
judge heretics for refusing to serve God as he demands to be
worshiped. We need to Mortify and Sanctify ourselves. God will not be
mocked.
Red Mann May 4th, 2015 at 5:18 pm
Yeah, your notion of god can be mocked all day long and nothing will happen unless one of the true believers commits a criminal act. It is only the deluded followers of such a creature that can actually do anything, and they have done plenty of very evil things throughout history.
Jack E Raynbeau May 4th, 2015 at 9:26 pm
Mock, mock, mock, mock, mock…
frambley1 May 4th, 2015 at 10:33 pm
Now that’s comedy!
Dwendt44 May 5th, 2015 at 12:17 am
It shouldn’t be considered at all by any sane person.
bpollen May 5th, 2015 at 5:53 am
Please show all communications between you and God, both public and private.
Please show how Jesus started a church that was created after his death.
“Mortify” ourselves? Opus Dei looney-tunes?
And please show why and omnipotent being would appoint such and obviously and seriously flawed vessel to carry his word? He could have simply sent a mass email. Or stopped the sun so that he, like the Wicked Witch of the West, could sky-write in smoke from his broomstick that we are DOOOOOMED!
Also, be so kind to explain why and omnipotent, omnipresent, omniscient being has such a thin skin that he freaks out over jokes. Is it low-self esteem?
fahvel May 5th, 2015 at 9:18 am
please take all the clocks down and erase the hours and half hours – then an absolute coo coo like yourself won’t be able to babble about nothing to nobody – you and your religion are what destroys goodness –
Jeffrey Samuels May 5th, 2015 at 9:42 am
Is is really difficult to know how to respond to someone who’s mind is still convinced that the inquisition was a good idea. If you are into ‘mortifying’ yourself, I understand you can get some whips and chains online from a bondage site. Go for it dude! Just don’t expect your insurance to pay for the damage unless you also agree to a psychiatric evaluation.
mea_mark May 4th, 2015 at 5:08 pm
Chuck Norris and #TexasDerp how lovely.
Lorraine Easterling May 4th, 2015 at 5:43 pm
Crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Roctuna May 4th, 2015 at 6:49 pm
OK, let me know if I’m following this. Chuck believes there are Isis coming across the border, probably from their camp just across the river, and they’ve infiltrated the US. He also believes ISIS is in all 50 states. So when the military says they’re doing a training exercise in the southern border states he believes they’re lying. Wouldn’t Chuck Norris the tea patriot WANT the military to train for interdiction of terrorists coming across the border? Where would like them to train, Iowa? Too many kicks to the head Chucky.
pignose4.0 May 4th, 2015 at 9:42 pm
Don’t you worry yer purtey little head off us folk here in Texas all have big guns and we ain’t a feared of no isis………now wait a god damn minute if we got all these guns how the frack did they get in here in the first place that’s what I wana know…….Hey govenor!.
Wee Mousie May 4th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Those old Golan-Globus films Chuck starred in, back in the 1980s, were implausible, but at least sort of entertaining. Norris should appear only with a muzzle. What a pity that the perfect outfit for Norris’ personal appearances is so strongly connected with Anthony Hopkins.
Dwendt44 May 4th, 2015 at 8:26 pm
Intelligence isn’t required for acting or stunt work. Clearly evident here.
thinkingwomanmillstone May 4th, 2015 at 7:42 pm
What a maroon you are, Chuck. We don’t want your state and would give it back if only Mexico would take that sorry excuse for a state.
Dwendt44 May 4th, 2015 at 8:29 pm
Chucky isn’t a pedophile, didn’t crap his pants to avoid the draft and doesn’t promote ‘a gun in every home’ nonsense.
whatthe46 May 4th, 2015 at 8:42 pm
fuk norris is an a&&hole!
Suzanne McFly May 4th, 2015 at 8:49 pm
Yeah right, and I am worried about becoming a billionaire….dumb-ass.
Jack E Raynbeau May 4th, 2015 at 9:25 pm
Chuck Norris worried? I was told that the boogeyman checks under his bed for Chuck Norris before he turns out the light.
Kick Frenzy May 5th, 2015 at 10:10 am
Yeah, but only because he doesn’t want to listen to five hours of Chuck hawking his stupid exercise equipment to help you prepare for illegal Mexi-ISIS invaders.
Obewon May 4th, 2015 at 10:04 pm
Chuck Norris & Guber Abbott worried that Military takeover of Texas is as real as Chuck’s “Walker Texas Ranger” TV character was! C’mon wing nuts donate now, or Die!!!
robert May 4th, 2015 at 11:17 pm
with pam geller stirring up old french conflicts in texas I would say the military could be the solution. be careful who’s toes you step on chuck
bpollen May 5th, 2015 at 5:55 am
He ith THO THOR at you!
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 8:38 am
Idk why people are making this out to be a partisan issue. I happen to be a Democrat who supports the ACA, gay marriage, pro choice, raising taxes on the rich, and believe climate change is a real issue etc. AND I believe there is suspicious motives for this military drill they are conducting. These people simply want to ensure that this operation does not infringe on the rights of the citizens in the area. What is so wrong with that? If we are fighting and arguing amongst each other then we wont even know what hit us if this turns out to be nefarious.
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 9:33 am
This has been done for decades.
It’s only when Obama is president that they decide to make an issue of it.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 10:00 am
This particular exercise has never been done at this scale. Its the largest military exercise ever on American soil. I have been skeptical about it for months and like I said I am a huge Obama supporter and I do not see this as an Obama plot. This is a plot by the DOD that the President wouldnt have any say on. People have been warning about this kind of thing way before Obama was President so I dont think its just another thing to blame Obama for. It may be just a simple martial law exercise but I think its worth keeping an eye on. After all, you have these protests going on all around the country, the national guard being deployed as a result and now you have Al Sharpton calling for a national police force. These events coinciding with each other seem a bit too coincidental to me. Everyone is going to have their own viewpoint on this but I highly doubt this is a left vs right, Republican vs Democrat issue.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 10:03 am
Where do you think the military has been conducting exercises in this country and why get panicky now. Admit it Tex ass has changed it’s mentality to the point that Ann Richards must be spinning in her grave at the assholes and idiots that have taken over.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 10:29 am
Look I am from NY. I think Texans are a bit crazy too but it isnt just Texas. This is happening in a few states and I know people who are a bit skeptical. This is not some conspiracy to blame Obama or make Texas look like a bunch of wackos. This is a sketchy operation being conducted. The purpose of it is to simulate a martial law scenario. Why do this so close to the public? Why not use a mock city like they use during SWAT training missions that simulate a realistic town? Im not saying that this will result in the military occupying the South West. At least not any time soon. I believe it really is just an exercise but I also believe that it is meant to train soldiers for possible martial law in America, not some foreign nation. All I am saying is that it wont hurt to keep an eye on this and calling people crazy isnt going to help either.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 10:33 am
Stop being afraid of your own shadow you’ll probably last longer. But yes Tyrion, THIS IS A CONSPIRACY TO BLAME THE PRESIDENT yet and still for the upteenth time for nothing. By the way, what do you think my point was about when I mentioned Ann Richards? Tex ass has become expert at making themselves look like assholes and idiots.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 10:38 am
Allison I just told you that I am not blaming Obama. There are many more like me who dont make this a partisan issue but if you ignore me and continue to go on a tirade about how this is only about blaming Obama then it is in fact you who looks like an idiot. I havent even seen anyone actually blaming Obama for this anyway.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 10:43 am
Tyrion, did I say that You were blaming the president? I never go on triades Tyrion and it doesn’t appear by our (you and me that is) discussion that I’ve ignored you does it? What I don’t understand is why it is that you, Tyrion, aren’t aware that the president has been blamed for a lot of things that aren’t true. You can look on this website and any other that you visit and there it is and You don’t know this? Amazing is what you are Tyrion just amazing.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 10:47 am
But no one has blamed the President. You and others like you will keep repeating how this is a ploy to blame the President even when no one is and then when someone finally does you say “see I told you so”. But this is not the case so why even say it? People want to just ensure that whatever is taking place in the Southwest that it will not infringe upon the rights of the citizens but you look at that and say well they dont like Obama thats why they are doing this. Its stupid and only goes to show that there are people in this country who look at everything through the lens of partisan politics.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 10:53 am
Shut up TROLL or else I’ll send out one of my infamous TROLL ALERTS.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 10:56 am
Usually the first person to play the troll card is the troll themselves.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 11:01 am
Not so pumpkin
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 11:14 am
Your whole purpose here is to maintain the position that this is a divisive partisan issue. You are actually arguing that this is something to argue about when it is simply people worried about the military telling them where they can and cant go in their own state. If that isnt a troll’s purpose then I dont know what is.
Kick Frenzy May 5th, 2015 at 10:37 am
I really don’t think here’s anything to be worried about.
Sure, it’s the biggest exercise in decades, but before this… a different one was and so on and on and on.
It reads to me like this is an exercise that’s at least partially prompted by the changing face of warfare.
Instead of two countries sitting across from each other and fighting, we now find ourselves in civilian areas, in towns and cities.
Going forward, it’s worth training all the different military forces to know how to best deal with whatever comes up, not to mention just training their muscle memory to have quicker response times in those environments.
They aren’t using a mock city because that would defeat a large portion of the whole purpose for the training in the first place.
If our government wanted to impose martial law, they wouldn’t need this kind of training… or much at all.
So, it’s just not a feasible idea from any angle.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 10:42 am
I can understand how the people in the Southwest may feel their rights may be limited because of this. For all we know there may be restrictions placed on citizens while the operation is taking place and by keeping an eye on this it ensures that no ones rights will be violated. Why is it that people have to use it as an opportunity to take pot shots at “the other side’? Its pretty stupid in my opinion.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 10:47 am
Yes, it is pretty stupid to get panicky over nothing. Exercises in this country my dear are far from a “new” thing. Where do you think (?) exercises and training were conducted during the Viet Nam war? Exercises are conducted in many different CLIMATES and terrain for a reason Tyrion. buh bye
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 10:49 am
You act as if our government has never done anything against our citizens. Look at the Kent State Massacre for a perfect example of how we should always keep our eyes on what our government is doing.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 10:52 am
What century are you referring to now Tyrion? I’m beginning to wonder if you aren’t an actual TROLL, Why don’t you start with reading the article and then drop down to this thread but this time try reading comments Tyrion or else I’ll know for certain you’re a TROLL. ;o)
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 10:55 am
What century? How bout 45 years ago? Were you even alive then? You Allison are the troll here, I come here to make a point about how this is not a partisan issue and how this is not something to blame the President for and yet you continue to make this about blaming Obama for the sake of blaming Obama. Yes these exercises have taken place on American soil for decades but that does not mean the people who live near these exercises shouldnt be worried that their rights may be infringed upon. You have come here attacking my moderate and rational view as to why people may be worried and then call me a troll. Please Allison, you arent here to bridge the gap you are here to ensure that the gap widens.
Kick Frenzy May 5th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
Well, to be fair, it’s Republicans/Conservatives who are clamoring to clutch onto this conspiracy theory… so they’ve already made it a political difference.
There are released documents that explain what they’re doing and how the majority of these exercises are on private land and don’t involve public areas/communities.
It also details how the military is specifically not allowed to infringe on peoples rights or safety and includes how to treat citizens who volunteer for exercises, preserving their rights and safety.
While it’s a large exercise, it’s also in the same vein as similar exercises have been performed for over a decade.
There is no need to worry about rights being trampled.
And it’s a waste of valuable resources (people, money) to order a state guard to oversee the operations.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 2:28 pm
it’s Republicans/Conservatives who are clamoring to clutch onto this conspiracy theory
But that simply isnt true. The media has duped us. They have concocted a way to take issues that effect all of us and turned them into partisan politics. The perfect example is the patriot act. When it was enacted it was Democrats who stood up and claimed it would violate our rights. It was the Republicans who defended it. Since Snowden revealed the extent of what the Patriot act does you now have Democrats defending it simply because it was revealed under a democratic President. Now you have Republicans saying Obama is spying on us. What happened? How did the positions flip in such a short time? Maybe it hasnt and its really the media that is painting it that way. This all stems down to the “my team good, your team bad” paradigm that has plagued our political system. Democrats and Republicans actually agree on many issues but the media paints certain issues as being exclusively Democrat or Republican and so when that happens its only natural that the other side will make it look like its wrong, why? Because people want to be right and they want to be on the winning side even if it means compromising your principals.
Kick Frenzy May 5th, 2015 at 2:45 pm
Sorry, but nope… there are plenty of Democrats who still don’t like and rail against the Patriot Act.
Also, the media aren’t the ones making this politically biased.
While there are times when that happens, this isn’t one of them.
The people concerned about a military take-over are almost (if not entirely) all from the Right.
Go ahead, try searching for anyone who is against or worried about Jade Helm.
Pay attention to who it is… because I know what you’ll find (since I was just looking for arguments against it from the Left).
You’ll find self-described “patriots”, Righty conspiracy theorists (like Chuck Norris and InfoWars) and Republican politicians (like Ted Cruz).
I wasn’t able to find anyone from the Left who was worried about it.
So, no, it’s not the media making it seem partisan… it just actually is partisan.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:32 pm
Well then I guess me and the handful of people I discuss this with from my town who all happen to be Democrats are the exception. And I happen to argue with some people who are diehard teabags who think I am just as crazy as you do. I have first hand experience that this isnt a clear cut partisan issue but the media will paint it that way and the only info you will find on the internet is just different media putting the same spin on it.
Kick Frenzy May 5th, 2015 at 5:26 pm
Just about any issue will have cross-over among people like you and me (y’know, the little people).
But the bigger fish who get the media attention are what I’m basing it on… or rather, the people in positions to have an actual effect on the greater populace.
With that in mind, you may be able to agree that this is being attacked by the Reds.
If there were a loud Blue voice railing against the exercises, there would be just as big a media hubbub about it… because it would be shocking and news-worthy.
You’re not hearing about it because it doesn’t exist.
But the points relevant to the story that I’ve made aren’t Blue or Red.
My point is simply that the exercises are not an attempt to take away everyone’s guns or to impose martial law on America.
No matter how you look at it, the facts don’t allow for that as a possibility.
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 2:47 pm
We have been saying that since the first days of the Republic.
Snowden?
Most technical reporting revealed that nothing new was revealed except to other countries, and NO ONE loves Snowden and Greenwald more than the emo progs.
This is not a partisan issue.
It’s a paranoid’s issue.
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:21 pm
There are no restrictions, if there were do you think those nut jobs would not have said so, or even abbott?
William May 5th, 2015 at 11:09 am
Look I am from NY.
Are you aware that there is a military exercise area right off the coast of NYC?
No?
When I was in the service I operated there on countless occasions.
Nobody from NY suggested we were training for a takeover of anything
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 11:24 am
The people in NYC are more concerned with their rights being violated by the police. What do you think our stance is on military presence in our area?
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:20 pm
No other state is behaving like frightened little nut jobs
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
Not yet, when it gets closer to the start of the operation you will see the other states in the southwest wanting to keep an eye on this. Democrats and Republicans alike agree on this but its only fringe voters that look at something like this and use it as an opportunity to paint the other side as crazy. And its people like you that read an article like this with a narrative that paints people as crazies and think its fact. People are worried but they arent not acting like frightened nut jobs. Thats called political spin.
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:36 pm
such nonsense, I live in Texas and these idiots are teabaggers and WND sycophants. Stop looking for conspiracies where their are none, you look foolish
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 2:50 pm
Conspiracies can be true. Stop looking at this as a cheap way to take pot shots at the “other side”. I happen to think there is legitimate concern here. No I dont think this is a hostile takeover where they are going to run in everyone’s home and take away their guns. I think there may be some issues and having this monitored will prevent any wrong doing, if there is any. I also think that if anything happens it may even be instigated by one of these teabaggers and having this monitored can prevent that. What is wrong with that? Of course there are crazy teabaggers who think this is a hostile takeover and there are those that look at this in a more rational way like I do but that doesnt mean every single person who agrees is a crazy teabagger and it doesnt make it false. Even a crazy teabagger will agree that the sky is blue. Does that make it a conspiracy because crazy teabaggers believe it?
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:52 pm
The world is not WND, grow up or seek medical help. The choice of sanity or paranoid fears is yours to make.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:05 pm
The funniest part about this is that I have had teabaggers that dont believe this call me crazy too.
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 3:08 pm
you are crazy no matter what you call yourself.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
I find it crazy that you are so adamant about calling me crazy. Why do you care so much?
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
To think the President of the United States has little or no knowledge of the nature of a military training exercise announced by a public press release, is in fact quite crazy.
And unless you have served as President of the United States, you have no idea what this or any other President knows about DoD operations.
You go right ahead and believe the Pentagon has secrets the White House is unaware of, even when that “secret” is announced in a press release six weeks ago. I am done…
http://www.army.mil/article/145143/PRESS_RELEASE__Exercise_readies_SOF_for_threats_abroad/
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
“And unless you have served as President of the United States, you have no idea what this or any other President knows”
I guess you must have been the President because you seem pretty confident what he knows and doesnt know.
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 3:16 pm
again you guess wrong. and yes, I am pretty confident the President of the United States is aware of a press release about military training exercises distributed to the general public.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:18 pm
My friend you have never heard of the word “classified”. The President is not privy to every single piece of information our government has. In fact, not one single person knows everything. That is how you keep a secret, you compartmentalize info so that no one person knows too much and that includes the President because like it or not most of these people keep their positions a lot longer than the President does.
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 3:25 pm
Please stop “guessing” or presuming to know what I have heard of. It really is annoying in addition to being completely wrong on every count so far.
Jade Helm was not a secret. It was announced publicly.
Given that your “guesses” and assumptions about what I know are completely incorrect, I am supposed to believe your unsubstantiated conjecture on what the President knows? Sorry..
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:36 pm
Who cares if its a secret. You have people who are legitimately concerned and if there isnt a monitoring force you may very well have some nut start firing on the soldiers because he is trying to “protect his rights”. What happens then? This is why there needs to be a monitoring force. Why is this so difficult to comprehend?
William May 5th, 2015 at 3:56 pm
OK…
A Teabagger called you nuts over a conspiracy theory?
What does that tell you?
Anyone?
Class?
Raise your hand if you know the answer.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
The earth being round was a conspiracy theory too. The NSA spying on us was a conspiracy theory too. Guess what? Conspiracy theories can be facts. Guess who gets laughed at when the truth comes out?
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 3:04 pm
There are NO credible sources who think this is anything but routine.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:10 pm
There is nothing wrong with making sure. Im actually more concerned with some crazy Texan trying to “defend his rights” and escalating a situation when there is none. If that happens you WILL have soldiers fighting the people but it will be the soldiers who are defending themselves. Having this monitored will make sure people on both sides dont act up. This is such a simple concept why is this so hard for people to understand? People kill each other over stepping on someones lawn why would you think that people might not cause an issue over this?
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
OK.
William May 5th, 2015 at 3:03 pm
Are you aware that the Navy maintains a nuclear power plant in NY to train sailors how to operate said plants?
You should probably move.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:14 pm
Comparing nuclear power plant to a martial law exercise? Ok….
William May 5th, 2015 at 3:52 pm
A martial Law exercise?
So…? Um will there be FEMA camps and death panels?
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:59 pm
I think you misunderstand the issue here. If there are people who feel threatened by this there is a chance that they may escalate a situation. What happens when you have some nut in Texas start shooting at the soldiers because he thinks he is protecting his rights? This is why you need a monitoring force.
William May 5th, 2015 at 5:10 pm
OK, you think Obama is invading Texas.
Got it.
Kick Frenzy May 5th, 2015 at 5:28 pm
By supplying an unnecessary oversight force only legitimizes the conspiracy theories of those nuts.
The oversight is more likely to incite violence than to prevent it.
William May 5th, 2015 at 11:05 am
This particular exercise has never been done at this scale. Its the largest military exercise ever.
As a retired military member I can absolutely assure you that this is in no way the largest military exercise of it’s type. In fact it’s not even close.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 11:22 am
Its not the largest military exercise ever but the largest to take place in America. What is wrong with the citizens ensuring that their rights will not be infringed upon by the military exercise? Why does this have to be some ridiculous “blame the President’ issue?
James Madison May 5th, 2015 at 12:01 pm
Because the President is the Commander in Chief.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 12:51 pm
So what? The President will be gone in 2 years and the people in the DoD will still be there. The President does not know everything our government is doing. They do not compromise on going operations by telling every President whats going on in every department of the government. Have you not heard of the military industrial complex? These things exist they arent just some conspiracy and its people like you that side with the government even after we discover all the lies the government has been telling us. Our government has done some bad things to its own citizens but you still think everything is just dandy because what I am saying sounds unlikely. Well people thought it was unlikely that our government would spy on its own citizens and the government even said they werent spying on us. They maintained that lie until the proof was staring us in the face.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 1:53 pm
Tryion: THE SKY IS FALLING! THE SKY IS FALLING!
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 2:31 pm
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
_______
A labor union quote?
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:21 pm
Gandhi. Your response is the epitome of what is wrong with politics in this country. You have your head wrapped up so tightly in this “my team good, your team bad” paradigm that you assume everything is either Republican or Democrat, liberal/ or conservative.
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 4:05 pm
1) It was not Gandhi, it was Nicholas Klein to The Amalgamated Clothing Workers of
America in Baltimore in 1918.
2) It has nothing to do with teams and has everything to do with the crowd who loves to indulge in vast conspiracies and cry wolf over everything.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 4:21 pm
First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. And then they attack you and want to burn you. And then they build monuments to you. And that, is what is going to happen to the Amalgamated Clothing Workers of America.
^^That was Nicholas Klein’s quote.
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 4:31 pm
And Gandhi never said the other quote.
http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Politics/2011/0603/Political-misquotes-The-10-most-famous-things-never-actually-said/First-they-ignore-you.-Then-they-laugh-at-you.-Then-they-attack-you.-Then-you-win.-Mohandas-Gandhi
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:19 pm
you are in need of medical help, your sense of fear and conspiracy’s being committed and believing your rights are being attacked because of normal training cracks me up
William May 5th, 2015 at 2:59 pm
Its not the largest military exercise ever but the largest to take place in America.
Source please?
Eric Grapher May 5th, 2015 at 11:11 am
The President is the Commander in Chief. He has a say about anything the DoD does. Every foot soldier understands the chain of command, and they would know if their Commander in Chief said to stop. Now, if the “exercise” is a means to stop illegals (including ISIS) from crossing the border, it is about time! Much too late, but better than pretending the problem does not exist.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 11:18 am
Its not to stop illegals or ISIS from crossing the border. Its to simulate martial law. They are claiming it is training to apply to other countries and that may be true but I also think its to train them for martial law here as well. I also think that people living around those areas may feel that the will be restricted to where they can go and what they can do while the exercise is taking place which may be an infringement upon the citizens rights. What is wrong with ensuring that this does not happen?
Eric Grapher May 5th, 2015 at 11:38 am
The article cited ISIS. You are believing what someone is saying 100%. Nothing is wrong with stopping martial law when rebellion is not present. You cited people blaming Obama, and then claimed he had nothing to do with it. I corrected you on what Obama’s position is with respect to the military. If this is a martial law exercise, bad on Obama. If this is a border patrol exercise, finally Obama is doing something, a bit too late.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 11:41 am
Who care if this article references ISIS. This isnt the only article regarding this topic. If you are only reading 1 source and taking it for everything its worth then your argument is greatly flawed. I am certainly not taking this 100% as fact. I am raising a valid point that people may feel their rights are being threatened. You are now the third person who wont answer the very simple question as to why there is something wrong with citizens ensuring that their rights wont be violated? Just answer the question. What is wrong with that and why does this have to be a partisan issue?
James Madison May 5th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
Answer: Nothing is wrong with defending your rights. Happy?
What is wrong is debating information that is not present in this article. I might as well be replying to you on a cooking website about the validity of defending against ISIS. The cooking show talks about oil, and well, there’s oil in the Middle East, sure, not the same type of oil, but still oil. And ISIS is in the middle east, too. So, let’s debate this on a cooking forum. Ready? Why cannot you answer a simple question? Is Obama the Commander in Chief or not? Would not each soldier be subject to his orders? Is not Obama responsible for this action of the DoD? Why not answer the question? Why keep avoiding answering Obama’s ultimate responsibility here? Seems you want to support Obama, but not the DoD, why is that? The DoD works for Obama. Answer me that. Oh, not here. Post your answer to some cooking show about oil please.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 12:25 pm
That is a silly analogy. Talking about cooking would be irrelevant because this has nothing to do with cooking but what I am discussing has everything to do with operation Jade Helm. So what you are saying is that because this article says one thing we have to discuss it as if its true and cant discuss any other relevant information to this topic because the article didnt discuss it? Thats like saying there is no such thing as a particular news source pushing a particular narrative. I commented on this article originally after reading how biased it was and how it was designed to take an issue of people wanting to protect their rights and turn it into a place to take thinly veiled shots at the opposition and divide the public. I voted for Obama twice and would a third time if he ran again. I am not blaming Obama for this. If you truly think a President, someone who comes and goes every 4 to 8 years actually has a grip on everything going on at the DoD then you are very naive. Our government is compartmentalized so that no one person knows everything including our President. This would not be his doing. Our Presidents are puppets for those who are here for more than 4 to 8 years. These are the people running the show and these are the people with the agenda. Let me guess, you laughed at the people who said our government was spying on us. Look who was right.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 1:51 pm
Welcome! ;o)
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 12:40 pm
Well I will answer your question. There is nothing wrong with citizens ensuring their rights won’t be violated.
As far as I am concerned, there is nothing “wrong” with fears of rights being violated being based on irrational conspiracy theories. There is nothing “wrong” with people afraid that the folks next door are hiding BigFoot in their basement. By the same token, there is nothing “wrong” with pointing out how utterly ridiculous such beliefs are.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 12:44 pm
Let me guess, you were one of those people who laughed when they said our government was spying on us. You called them conspiracy theorists right? Who was right about that? Were those beliefs “utterly ridiculous” or did it just make you look like a blind follower of the government when it turned out to be true?
congero May 5th, 2015 at 12:55 pm
In case you didn’t know the Federal government already has control of Texas. Google US flag flies in Texas capitol and notice which flag flys higher than the state flag. lol. Some things are just ridiculous and a sucker is born every minute. Thanks for playing. Of course this has nothing to do with the person in the WH today. You obviously think this is the 1st time war games were ever held in Texas. lol. Anyway I thought you baggers wanted troops at the border. Ha!
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 1:05 pm
What does that have to do with the individual citizens feeling that their rights may be violated by this operation? You are basically saying the people of Texas are subject to whatever the government wants because the US flag flies higher in Texas than their own flag. Irreverent information that doesnt justify the underlying issue. The real sucker is you for thinking that our government has control of its citizens. That isnt how America works, we are supposed to control our government and they are supposed to fear us.
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 1:27 pm
You are basically saying the people of Texas are subject to whatever the government wants because the US flag flies higher in Texas than their own flag. Irreverent information that d
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There is always and has ALWAYS been a crowd of people who feel that way.
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:17 pm
They are nut jobs fearing “the black guy in their WH”
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 1:49 pm
They’re like 2 y/o’s they don’t know what they want but they do know they want “it”. 😉
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:16 pm
Everyone, including the government spyd on us. Everytime you post your silly fears you are spied on . Everytime you google you are spied on.
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 3:06 pm
Well you guess wrong. NSA data collection was well documented common knowledge, not a rumor spread by viral email
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:24 pm
It was denied by the government until Snowden revealed it. That means the government was lying until the lie was exposed.
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 3:30 pm
You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. A cursory google search shows this article from 8 years ago. Long before anyone heard of Edward Snowden.
Notice how I back up the things I say and you do not?
Please provide a news reference to this lie you refer to.
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
NSA has massive database of Americans’ phone calls
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 4:02 pm
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/06/watch-top-u-s-intelligence-officials-repeatedly-deny-nsa-spying-on-americans-over-the-last-year-videos/
They denied it in 2012. If it was debunked in the 70s like you claim that means are government lied to us for nearly 40 years after the fact.
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 3:33 pm
and this from almost 40 years ago.
Is Edward Snowden even 40 years old??
http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/news/washington/2006-05-10-nsa_x.htm
In 1975, a congressional investigation revealed that the NSA had been intercepting, without warrants, international communications for more than 20 years at the behest of the CIA and other agencies. The spy campaign, code-named “Shamrock,” led to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which was designed to protect Americans from illegal eavesdropping.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:39 pm
The government still lied about it until it they couldnt lie anymore. Yes ok I’ll concede that it didnt matter if Snowden was the one to reveal it but it does not change the fact that our government lied to us and yet even after knowing our government has lied to us people still believe them.
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
1975
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 3:52 pm
And yet even in the year 2012 they were still denying it.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/andygreenberg/2013/06/06/watch-top-u-s-intelligence-officials-repeatedly-deny-nsa-spying-on-americans-over-the-last-year-videos/
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:13 pm
It is neither, find a bunker and your freedom seeds
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 1:26 pm
The exercise is so that they can train in terrains similar to where they will be deployed.
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:13 pm
No it is not
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:13 pm
ISIS is not in Texas or Mexico, go hide in a bunker
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 12:56 pm
I don’t think this is an issue at all.
Tyrion4Prez May 5th, 2015 at 1:11 pm
Im glad but unfortunately others do and that is why I raised this point. There are people here trying to argue that the people in Texas are crazy for being skeptical of this operation. All they want is to ensure that their rights arent violated. There is nothing wrong with that and it isnt an insult to the President. People look and see Texas and say oh those darn Republicans are just trying to make our President look bad. I think that notion is ridiculous and I think it cheapens peoples concerns by turning it into a partisan issue and this is coming from a Democrat who happens to really like Obama.
OldLefty May 5th, 2015 at 1:15 pm
I’ve seen too many similar things that cause freak outs to pay any mind.
Ultimately, I think if it really were a cause for concern, no one would know about it.
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:12 pm
They are crazy
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:11 pm
what nonsense
William May 5th, 2015 at 9:31 am
Welcome to Texas. Firearms welcome. Common sense, not so much
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 9:56 am
Insane? Naw, more like a dumbass.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 9:58 am
As if the State Guard is going to fight…whom? And Chucky…what’s that old man planning on doing after he puts on his makeup and costume?
Barry Shitpeas May 5th, 2015 at 11:26 am
I think Chuckle Norris has had one too many round-houses to the head.
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 11:52 am
The unfortunate byproduct of the “Information Age” is that now, all information is considered equal. Assoicated Press dispatches and rumors published on a blog run by some guy in his underwear living in his parent’s basement are considered equally credible. We have gone from Walter Cronkite to Alex Jones. I cannot imagine anyone of any political stripe who would consider that progression to be progress. But here we are.
The saddest thing about this is that years from now, when it is readily apparent that nothing sinister, illegal, unethical, un Constitutional, or for that matter out of the ordinary happened in Jade Helm, the people who believed this nonsense will still not be convinced. They will tell us that liberty was preserved only because patriots like themselves revealed the deep dark secret and forced the government to pull back. These zealots will never admit the real truth, e.g. anyone who believes this Jade Helm nonsense is bat-sh*t crazy in spades..
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 11:57 am
Morning arc, and where the hell have you been? Scroll down and start reading at Tyrion4Pez’ comments. See ya!
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 12:30 pm
yes I did check them out. just goes to show you that if Tyrion4Prez’s political views are as he says, some folks on the left are not immune to the ridiculous either.
allison1050 May 5th, 2015 at 1:44 pm
Exactly!
James Madison May 5th, 2015 at 12:04 pm
Walter reported the coming Ice Age, too. News is News. Newspapers used to run stories to be the breaking news… Extra! Extra! Read all about it! That was a newspaper making an additional printing to be the first with the news. Not always correct news.
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 12:23 pm
Mr. Cronkite quoted a British professor. Cronkite did not in any way present anything as fact other than quoting the professor. Cronkite made no claims as to the accuracy or validity of the prediction. His mention of this story was at the very end of his newscast. Mr. Cronkite punctuated the citation with a snarky remark about no schools closing and minimal traffic impact from the previous Ice Age 60,000 years ago.
In other words, the citation was a humorous anecdote of the kind that he frequently used to end his broadcast. Nowhere in the clip that I find did Cronkite attempt to portray the British professor’s prediction as a real or imminent threat.
Your post claiming that Cronkite “reported” a coming Ice Age is precisely the kind of misinformation to which I am referring. Quoting someone predicting an Ice Age while mocking the quote is hardly “reporting a coming Ice Age”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UhoB-Vf0N08
Dwendt44 May 5th, 2015 at 1:12 pm
That’s the basis for the right wing nut jobs phoney claim that scientists were predicting a new ‘ice age’ before they were warning us about ‘global warming’.
In fact, scientists were concerned about ‘green house gases’ that would warm the atmosphere since the early 1970’s.
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 2:35 pm
Exactly.
When you Google +”Walter Cronkite” +”Ice Age” you get pages of hits from right wing blog sites smugly presenting the late reporter’s humorous aside as some kind of proof of of the weakness of claims that climate change is man made…
One guy predicted an Ice Age. Cronkite presented the prediction in a context of humor, not serious news. Case closed.
arc99 May 5th, 2015 at 12:26 pm
I fail to see how an Extra! newspaper edition reporting something that actually happened can be considered to equivalent to delusional conspiracy theories. When newspapers did get a breaking story wrong, it was corrected the next day. The fiction did not persist for weeks with people insisting it was true despite facts to the contrary.
eyelashviper May 5th, 2015 at 12:07 pm
He and Nugent should get together and build themselves a fort and invite all the armed and crazed Texas “militia” nutjobs to join them. Then douse the com[pound with anti-psychotic spray.
Billy Jack Liberals May 5th, 2015 at 12:30 pm
What’s more fun than effin’ with Texas? We’re comin’ for the weapons, pilgrims. lol
Cliff Webb May 5th, 2015 at 1:31 pm
Sociopathic zionist trash like Chuck Norris should be deported to their beloved racist, fascist “Israel”…
Jeffrey Samuels May 5th, 2015 at 1:58 pm
Woh Cliff, We Zionist Trash don’t want anything to do with morons like Chuck Norris. I would think, given your rhetoric, that you would have more in common with him.
Cliff Webb May 6th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
His ziofascism is what motivates his asinine utterances…
tracey marie May 5th, 2015 at 2:10 pm
“zionist trash”? stormfront is that way——>
Cliff Webb May 6th, 2015 at 4:09 pm
Palm Beach FL based ‘Stormfront’ Is a Jewish run racist front group dummy…
tracey marie May 6th, 2015 at 4:11 pm
troll somewhere else you inbred
flopdog May 5th, 2015 at 2:22 pm
What’s even worse, is that when Jade Helm goes off as planned, the whacked out right will claim “they stopped the takeover.”
Greg 'King Saeed' Williams May 5th, 2015 at 2:56 pm
The real problem is that a sitting US Governor acting pander to these crazies and called upon the State Guard to monitor and report back to him what the US Military was up too….That’s how you know that these Bat Shxt crazies have supporters in the higher echelons of the Gov’t (Local/State/Federal)……..
davegerber May 5th, 2015 at 3:44 pm
And this is the asshole Ron from Hollywwod Fl. wants to meet ?????
Nu Mil 3 Design May 6th, 2015 at 8:17 pm
In the last 10 years the GOP has had more loose screws than Hugh Hefner.
Man May 7th, 2015 at 9:51 am
GOP with the conspiracy theories make Americans ” scared, furious, and confused .” Cruz and his gang are beating the drums for more violence and disobedience …