Walker Would Destroy Unions Nationally
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D.B. Hirsch is a political activist, news junkie, and retired ad copy writer and spin doctor. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.
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robert May 5th, 2015 at 10:03 pm
and pensions for all workers, both union and non-union.
once they wipe out all the pension debt that exists today ? this might be a good idea
Dwendt44 May 6th, 2015 at 1:23 pm
Most corporations with fixed benefit pensions, thanks to unions, are short funding them year after year, funding stock dividends and CEO salaries and bonuses instead. In a few years, when large parts of their workforce start retiring, the pension plans will be way in the red and the federal government will have to take over those pensions. That is, unless, a Republican president and a Republican Congress can repeal then laws that protect private pensions. Then the retirees will be up a creek with no paddle.
robert May 6th, 2015 at 1:45 pm
i can think of 2 states that are 100 billion or more in pension debt
To say pension companies are in the red could be a compliment .
and you forgot to mention how unions and or pension companies contributed 1000s if not millions of dollars to campaigns with or without union members approval. sorry but i dont need my wages spent for me before i get my paycheck
Dwendt44 May 6th, 2015 at 11:51 pm
Those two state wouldn’t happen to be Republican lead would they?
Cutting taxes when you are already behind in funding agencies and programs and that’s what happens.
The majority of the monies spend on political campaigns is either WITH the members approval or from other sources of income. Some unions have a successful investment portfolio and other sources of income that doesn’t require member approval.
robert May 7th, 2015 at 7:50 am
buzzzzzzz your way off they are indeed not republicon led as a matter of fact the two states mentioned above have been blue for a very long time. Red states have found their way into the red through government grants and loans such as birmingham alabama. you might want to check out the debt in that city and state for non union debt
William May 5th, 2015 at 10:03 pm
Imagine what the Koch brothers and their pet squirrel Walker could do to a whole country.
allison1050 May 6th, 2015 at 6:45 am
They couldn’t even must enough signatures to have a recall and then voted his ass right back into office, the dolts.
Snick1946 May 6th, 2015 at 10:33 am
I felt at the time the unions overplayed their hand with the public. IDK whose idea it was to have screaming mobs day after day in the Capitol building but they ought to be replaced whoever it was. Lots of WI voters were on the fence on this issue and some of these tactics backfired.
allison1050 May 6th, 2015 at 12:52 pm
You ever wonder which side of the fence they’re on now? I don’t.
Dwendt44 May 6th, 2015 at 1:19 pm
Bear in mind that the unions gave the Republicans what they wanted in regards to the supposed reasoning behind the anti-union actions. Didn’t matter, the true target of the GOP was to weaken the unions as much as possible. Why? because most of union labor supported the Democrats, and the unions spent money (non dues money) on lobbying for and supporting Democrat politicians.
whatthe46 May 5th, 2015 at 10:26 pm
somebody’s not gonna become president of these United States of America.
John Tarter May 5th, 2015 at 11:06 pm
As President, the only unions he could get rid of would be the Federal public sector unions. Getting rid of the other private sector unions would be the job of the governors of each individual state.
Obewon May 5th, 2015 at 11:18 pm
Just 40% support Koch Walker’s right to work as president. Vs. 50% voting instead for HRClinton45~ NBC News/Wall Street Journal Poll conducted by Hart Research Associates (D) and Public Opinion Strategies (R). April 26-30, 2015. registered voters, adults nationwide.
allison1050 May 6th, 2015 at 6:42 am
You don’t know much about political history John. Go back to the early ’80;s when Ronnie was president and start reading and in short order you’ll find out what happened to the air traffic controllers union and on from there. Don’t comment unless you’ve done a little reading FIRST. That way, you won’t allow everyone to know how uninformed you are.
Robert M. Snyder May 5th, 2015 at 11:07 pm
Nobody needs to eliminate unions, because automation and robotics are steadily eliminating union jobs. Suppose you’re a manufacturer who makes a product that requires welding. Why would you hire human welders when robotic welding systems will work 24x7x365 without ever complaining or going on strike?
These systems are becoming very affordable and easy to set up. Two family-owned businesses in my community are using these systems in their small factories:
http://eu.industrial.panasonic.com/products/robot-welding-system-solutions
Labor unions are headed for the dust bin of history.
frambley1 May 6th, 2015 at 12:38 am
Along with all laborers. Anything repetitive or requiring physical strength will be done by robots within our lifetimes.
Hint: train to be a robot technician and/or programmer.
Robert M. Snyder May 6th, 2015 at 12:56 am
The future does not look promising for people who harvest fruits and vegetables for a living.
fahvel May 6th, 2015 at 3:57 am
and may your tomorrows be filled with empty space and cold aluminum emotions.
Robert M. Snyder May 6th, 2015 at 8:49 am
Wishing for something doesn’t make it so. Mechanization happened in the twentieth century. This eliminated most of the physical labor as workers traded picks and shovels for earth moving equipment. In the twenty-first century, Automation is giving us smart machines that don’t require human operators. This trend cannot be stopped. We have to find ways to adapt.
frambley1 May 6th, 2015 at 9:30 pm
Agreed. But eventually the Robots will take over, I think it is inevitable for that to happen.
frambley1 May 6th, 2015 at 9:28 pm
Bite my shiny metal a**.
-Bender
fahvel May 6th, 2015 at 3:56 am
maybe choose human because they eat and drink and work and fart and pee and do so many wonderful human things. Replace a spouse with a perfect inflatable doll said the doctor walker, call me in the morning. Crap reasoning there fella.
Robert M. Snyder May 6th, 2015 at 8:53 am
You’re in denial. Automation and robotics are happening all around us. This is the new status quo. We need to find ways to adapt instead of trying to roll back the clock. Chinese workers face the same problems. The largest manufacturer in China, Foxconn, is making massive investments in robotics. Jobs for welders and machinists will soon be as scarce as jobs for blacksmiths. People need to have marketable skills, but the market is changing.
arc99 May 6th, 2015 at 10:45 am
Given that ordinary Americans who are in labor unions already face these challenges, it makes it all the more obscene that the Republican party supports the destruction of labor unions.
I think it is no accident that government and unions, the two institutions which give the ordinary citizen some leverage against the influence of big corporations, are targeted by the GOP.
Yet they claim they are the party of the working class. So who am I supposed to believe? The Republican party is not the party of working class America. It is the party that would have each of us be nothing more than a spare part for corporate America. If we are no longer a useful spare part, the corporation can discard us as obsolete.
The Republicans in Washington will make sure that we have no unemployment compensation, no welfare, no health insurance other than the emergency room, while they spend trillions of dollars in foreign countries killing people.
Pretty much sums up why I think the 21st century Republican party is a living,breathing obscenity. They call themselves “pro life” and oppose every effort to make sure that every one of us has what is needed to live a decent life. If we cannot make ourselves valuable enough to some corporation so that we can provide for our needs, the GOP says tough sh*t.
That is not the kind of country America should be.
Robert M. Snyder May 6th, 2015 at 11:51 am
I’d be more sympathetic to the plight of labor unions if my kids hadn’t had so many sub-standard teachers in public school. Nobody ever gets fired for incompetence. The only teachers who have ever been dismissed from my local school in the past couple of decades were a female who viewed porn on a school computer and a male who was arrested for clandestine videotaping of his step-daughter in the bathroom. The third grade teacher who assigned numbers to his students instead of learning their names was not even dismissed after throwing a desk at a student. Instead, he spent one year in the library correcting papers for other teachers, and then went right back to teaching. Then he retired with normal pension. Union leadership and union contracts work to ensure that sub-standard teachers keep their jobs. Is it any wonder that many of us are disgusted with unions?
arc99 May 6th, 2015 at 12:35 pm
Given that my education was provided by unionized inner city public school teachers (High school class of 1970 Washington DC – MckInely Tech High school), clearly my experience was different than that of your children. I received an excellent education that I will gladly compare to the best of K-12 private schools.
So it raises the question, are unions really the problem or is the problem simply bad negotiators on the school board? Simply destroying a union is not going to make that teacher a more conscientious instructor.
Robert M. Snyder May 6th, 2015 at 1:14 pm
I’ll grant that it’s a complex issue, and unions aren’t the only factor. I graduated in 1978. One clear difference I see today is that teachers are getting more pressure and less help from parents and administrators.
My sister was a teacher until the stress forced her to quit. She was literally vomiting every night prior to a school day. After she quit, no more vomiting. A lot of her stress came from parents who would raise hell with the administration if she ever made their kids uncomfortable in any way. One day a kid lied about something. She knew it was a lie, so she called him on it. The next day, she was called into the principal’s office and asked to apologize to the kid and the parents. She refused. Things went down hill from there.
So I understand that teachers are under a lot of stress. But as a result, many teachers abandon their principles and just take the easy road. They try to be the students’ friends, which means don’t ask too much, grade easily, and never criticize. They give the kids what they *want*, but fail to give them what they *need*.
Unions compound the problem by making it virtually impossible to terminate an underperforming teacher. One of my neighbors is an elementary principal. How do you motivate underperforming teachers? How do you motivate underperforming students? Unions rush to the defense of teachers just as parents rush to the defense of students. Everyone is a victim. Nobody is required to perform.
There are valid reasons for unions to exist. A friend of mine is a commercial airline pilot. He is a staunch conservative, but also a union member. He strongly supports collective bargaining. I suppose it makes sense in his industry. But if substandard pilots could keep their jobs as easily as substandard teachers, we’d be seeing a hell of a lot more plane crashes. If airline unions don’t defend substandard pilots, why should teacher unions defend substandard teachers?
cogitoergodavesum May 6th, 2015 at 8:55 pm
It’s probably more accurate to say your sister’s union prevented her from being fired for not apologizing to the lying kid.
Dwendt44 May 6th, 2015 at 1:13 pm
EVERY teachers union contract has procedures for firing teachers that don’t measure up. IF the school administration doesn’t use them, why is the union at fault? No union at my local schools, (to small a city I guess), a married couple were teachers; the man was drunk by the afternoon classes and the wife was one of those mean vengeful types of harpy. Took years for them to be pushed out.
Gadea May 6th, 2015 at 12:56 am
“Mandate my ass!” Gil Scott Heron – “B” Movie
http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article41762.htm
What has happened is that in the last 20 years,
America has changed from a producer to a consumer.
And all consumers know that when the producer names the tune…
the consumer has got to dance.
That’s the way it is.
We used to be a producer – very inflexible at that,
and now we are consumers and, finding it difficult to understand.
Natural resources and minerals will change your world.
The Arabs used to be in the 3rd World.
They have bought the 2nd World and put a firm down payment on the 1st one.
Controlling your resources will control your world.
This country has been surprised by the way the world looks now.
They don’t know if they want to be Matt Dillon or Bob Dylan.
They don’t know if they want to be diplomats
or continue the same policy – of nuclear nightmare diplomacy.
John Foster Dulles ain’t nothing but the name of an airport now.
Robert M. Snyder May 6th, 2015 at 8:43 am
“America has changed from a producer to a consumer.”
That’s a common misperception, but it’s just not true. The USA is still the world’s number one producer. The real story is that workers are being replaced by machines.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/246484-the-u-s-is-still-the-worlds-top-manufacturer
http://www.aei.org/publication/making-more-with-less-u-s-manufacturing-efficiency/print/
Elliot J. Stamler May 6th, 2015 at 2:05 am
I hold no brief for Gov. Walker nor do I support a national right -to-work law but my experience in my life having been in two unions, one of which was a local affiliated with the giant SEIU, taught me that many, many unions are not worth the dues…they are now organizations for the high-pay aggrandizement of full-time union officers whose principal motivation is their own huge pocketbooks not the interest of their workers. Sorry all you lefties (I’m a centrist moderate Democrat) but it’s the truth. I have witnessed it. When I was young unions were lead by idealists and men of principle (few women back then): Walter Reuther, George Meany, Philip Murray, David Dubinsky, etc. Now they are run by people not too different from top corporate execs…paying themselves high six-figure salaries and stifling internal union democracy-which is a joke
THAT is why with the rtw law so many union members dropped their membership…if they had good reason to esteem and respect their union and it genuinely worked for THEM they’d have kept paying dues. Unions made a great contribution to a better and more equitable economy..IN THE PAST…THEIR OWN CORRUPTION AND SELF-INTEREST IS WHAT HAS DONE THEM IN TODAY IN THE MINDS OF WORKERS.
P.S. I was a shop steward and executive committeeman of one of the 2 unions I was a member of. I SAW what was going on.
Hirightnow May 6th, 2015 at 3:50 am
My dog once crapped on the floor.
We should kill all dogs.
Elliot J. Stamler May 6th, 2015 at 4:34 am
That moronic reply Hirightnow shows that your dog has more brains than you do.
arc99 May 6th, 2015 at 10:51 am
The reply was not moronic at all. It simply points out that your singular personal experience is irrelevant when it comes to the overall role of labor unions in this country.
Your personal opinion about your experience is supposed to convince us of what? The only thing it convinces me of is just like every company in the Fortune 500, or for that matter nearly every company in this country, if you look hard enough, you will find someone who was extremely dissatisfied with the product or service they receive.
Ford Motors, General Electric, Time Warner etc etc. etc. Go check out consumer complaints about those countries. Do those complaints mean it is time to get rid of Ford, GE and Time Warner? Of course not. By the same token, your personal experience is meaningless in the debate over the role of unions in this country.
Hirightnow May 6th, 2015 at 12:10 pm
More eloquent than how I would have put it, and containing fewer instances of the word “jackass”, too!
Elliot J. Stamler May 6th, 2015 at 1:17 pm
Sir: If mine were a rare and unique experience you would have a point. It is a very very common experience and you can verify that by doing research. If my comment were “irrelevant” unions would not be in the hemorrhaging condition they are now in-members would be glad to stay in–or join. The RTW laws do not prohibit union membership remember. I did not call for the destruction of unions-read my comment carefully-but the simple fact is that to a large extent they have brought this onto themselves for the reasons I set forth. You just can’t blame it all on RTW laws, Reagan, the Republicans, etc. The Republicans have always been anti-labor and always will be but in decades past unions remained strong.
Dwendt44 May 6th, 2015 at 1:28 pm
And who elected the boards of those unions that gave those high salaries to those running the union? Local members elect representatives to the districts who elect representatives to the national boards. One assumes (always dangerous) that those local members knew what they were doing at the time.
arc99 May 6th, 2015 at 1:44 pm
Unions were in fact quite strong at one time. Then we started to ship manufacturing jobs to foreign countries. The fundamental rights that unions fought for like paid vacations and 40 hour weeks have become commonplace for union and non-union workers alike thanks to public policy and law advocated by unions.
So what happens when unions are powerless or nonexistent? Who advocates for ordinary working people, especially in physically demanding and dangerous occupations such as mining?
I do not dispute that one reason for shrinking union membership is the fact that so much of what unions fought for is now mandated by law. But it is extremely shortsighted to take the view that unions are no longer useful. As you concede, the GOP is anti labor. Benefits that have been legislated into existence such as overtime after 40 hours can easily be legislated away. And then, there would be no union to advocate on behalf of ordinary people, just lobbyists and politicians explaining how treating workers as disposable spare parts is “freedom”.
tracey marie May 6th, 2015 at 3:48 pm
hey moron, go troll somewhere else
tracey marie May 6th, 2015 at 3:48 pm
you are moronic
Dwendt44 May 6th, 2015 at 1:05 pm
the anti-union forces in the Republican Party often talk about corruption and graft and dirty dealings. They are talking about the Teamsters union and using that to smear all other unions. That mess has been cleaned up with Justice Dept. oversight. Most violations of the law are exposed or pointed out by unions themselves, and they still get blamed for the misdeeds.
Unions are under a lot of pressure. The members would like higher wages and better benefits, and the companies they deal with want lower wages and fewer/lesser benefits.
Corporations threaten to move overseas all the time, and some do it regardless. Some members, want the pay and benefits but don’t want to pay the dues that supports them.
Greedy workers with no loyalty are the ones dropping out of unions. They are also the first ones to complain when there’s a dispute on the job.
tracey marie May 6th, 2015 at 3:47 pm
when you start out calling people lefties then claim to be a dem…we know you are tyrolling
Hirightnow May 6th, 2015 at 3:49 am
Funny how, when Republicans use the word “freedom”, it almost always means the polar opposite.
Funny…
allison1050 May 6th, 2015 at 6:31 am
They actually mean freedom for the 1% but their masses think that they’re included ’cause they think they’re ‘special’.
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 12:00 pm
This is the “free market” and “freedom” in the eyes of Republicans..
http://www.education.ne.gov/SS/CSSAP%20Modules/CSSAP%20First%20Phase%20Modules/images/coal2.jpg
rhzszm May 8th, 2015 at 1:58 am
Democrat party political poster from Civil War era
StoneyCurtisll May 8th, 2015 at 2:33 pm
My how things have changed in 150 years…
No longer is the republican party “liberal”
Or the Democratic party southern conseratives..
Ya might want to look at the date on a calender..
It doesnt say 1860..
It’s 2015…
tracey marie May 8th, 2015 at 2:44 pm
what year do you live in?
fahvel May 6th, 2015 at 3:52 am
did the unions in walkers state not see it coming? If the unions were strong, a state wide strike might have discouraged the walker from going there. The union people copted out.
allison1050 May 6th, 2015 at 6:30 am
They voted this ass right back into office what can 1 say?
Dwendt44 May 6th, 2015 at 12:57 pm
I don’t recall him saying he’d attack the unions when he was running for office. As it was he divided the unions by not touching the police, state patrol, or prison guards, and fire fighters.Just went after the teachers and other public employees unions. He waited a couple of years and then went after them too.
Warman1138 May 6th, 2015 at 4:31 am
Woof! Woof!
Snick1946 May 6th, 2015 at 10:28 am
I have a long time friend my age- he is one of those guys who votes against his own interests on everything. Currently he is supporting Walker because he wants to smash the unions. My friend worked 30 years at a union job. He has a cushy retirement income, health insurance and all the other perks his union fought for and got for him. He tells me ‘we don’t need unions now’ although he does admit there was a time we did, ‘that’s all over now.’ He literally makes me physical ill not just on his own but because he represents so many guys his age who vote Republican, no connection in their minds.
Dwendt44 May 6th, 2015 at 12:53 pm
And he’d be screaming like a mad man if they took his pension and health benefits away.
tracey marie May 6th, 2015 at 3:46 pm
which will happen if the gop destroys the Unions
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 11:53 am
The Koch brotherts are just Walking the Dog…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6AZNywvF-s
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 11:56 am
Vote republican….
If you want to see your children working in a mine..
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b3/Childlabourcoal.jpg
This was common place and the standard before unions took the control out of the hands of the robber barons, and put power in the hands of the worker.
Robert M. Snyder May 6th, 2015 at 1:29 pm
In 1900 there were 640,000 people employed in the coal mining industry. Today there are about 80,000, but we are producing twice as much coal. That’s a sixteen-fold increase in productivity. It’s also a loss of 560,000 jobs. What happened? Mechanization. What’s happening today? Automation and robotics. Pretty soon there will be no need for miners. Highly intelligent people will find employment in high-tech jobs and healthcare. But not everybody is cut out for that type of work. I worry about those folks. Is a lifetime of welfare the only answer? Does either party have a solution? I certainly hope that the effects of automation and robotics are part of the presidential debates, because as a society we need to be thinking about this.
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 2:19 pm
I have worked in the mining industry for the last 30 years…(limestone)
I would love to hear what exactly what “mechanization” in the mining industry that caused a job loss from 640k to 80k from 1990 till the present…
Please list them, cause love to know what they are..
I’m going to bet you have never seen a mining operation, be it on the surface, or underground..
Robert M. Snyder May 6th, 2015 at 2:49 pm
Dude, I live in western PA. The rural town where I live was built around coal mining and timber. In the old days they dug deep mines and used mules to haul the coal out of the mines. The men broke the coal loose with picks. I have several pick heads in my garage with my wife’s grandfather’s initials punched into them.
Today they do surface mining (strip mines) using drag lines. Our local power plant is coal fired. A lot of my neighbors make their living working at that plant or driving tri-axle trucks (coal buckets) to carry the coal to the plant. All of the mining and transport is now mechanized. The amount of coal produced per worker is an order of magnitude higher than it used to be.
If you don’t think that mechanization has made limestone quarries more productive, then let’s take away high-torque diesel engines and go back to wimpy gasoline engines. Or steam shovels. Or picks.
Dude, when my grandfather was a young man, he worked in a limestone quarry breaking big rocks into little rocks with a sledgehammer so they could go through the rock crusher.
Mechanization happened in the twentieth century. Automation is happening in the twenty first. The machine no longer need operators. I don’t know where it will lead, but there’s no way those jobs are coming back.
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 2:55 pm
I have no argument with that comment..
Robert M. Snyder May 6th, 2015 at 3:09 pm
Seriously? Why would anyone want to hire children with so many adults unemployed?
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 3:25 pm
Cause they could pay them less than a living wage?…
It happened in the past..
let’s not think the idea isn’t floating about in the minds of those who do not what to pay adults a living wage..
They do it overseas…
And now the wages of American workers are being lowered to those who are willing to work for a bowl of rice a day, (hyperbole) but almost..
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 3:32 pm
Good question…
Ask the shoe and clothing manufactures why they are using child labor in India and Pakistan…
And even Vietnam is now low wage manufacturing country more than willing to do the jobs of the American worker for a fraction of the cost..
Robert M. Snyder May 9th, 2015 at 8:05 pm
My local pizza shop is owned and operated by a family of Guatemalan immigrants. I once asked them why they don’t hire American teenagers to work there. The response was “American kids don’t want to work.”. My daughter worked at a local McDonald’s when she was in high school. Management scheduled her as much as they could, because she knew how to work. Other kids from her school were showing up late, if at all, and giving senior citizen discounts to their teenage friends. So if you think that any employer is looking to exploit American children, think again. If the job requires an attention span greater than five minutes or walking faster than 2 MPH, forget it. Most kids today can’t handle that, because their parents never required them to do anything like doing laundry or mowing the lawn. Hiring today’s teenagers is a liability, not an asset.
StoneyCurtisll May 9th, 2015 at 8:06 pm
This thread is so 3 days ago…
Let them bones lay in the ground…
StoneyCurtisll May 9th, 2015 at 8:06 pm
This thread is so 3 days ago…
Let them bones lay in the ground…
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 2:39 pm
And we can thank the Unions..(not Mechanization) for no longer allowing American children to work in coal mines..
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 2:51 pm
It appears that you are so out of touch with reality that you think only uneducated people, who swing a pick and use a shovel work in the modern mining industry..
Your mindset seems to that of 100 years ago…
I would love to take you on a tour of what a 2015 mining operation looks like..
tracey marie May 6th, 2015 at 3:44 pm
you phony concern troll that you spam for everything cracks me up
StoneyCurtisll May 6th, 2015 at 4:10 pm
working in a Coal Mine..
DEVO.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAzAucMOE0s
rhzszm May 8th, 2015 at 1:52 am
Democrats… the party of slavery and taxes.
burqa May 8th, 2015 at 2:54 am
So please explain why Democratic Party nominees for the presidency routinely get about 90% of the black vote.
Why is that?
Why won’t they vote for the Republican candidate, hmmmm?
burqa May 8th, 2015 at 2:59 am
Yup, and vote Republican if you want to eliminate weekends and go back to the 6-day work week (in which it was common to pay people half wages for the work they did on Saturday).
Vote Republican if you don’t like workplace safety laws or want to get rid of food inspections.
Vote Republican if you want to no longer be paid time-and-a-half for overtime.
William May 6th, 2015 at 3:12 pm
Unions.
rhzszm May 8th, 2015 at 1:49 am
In 1981, President Ronald Reagan fired more than 11,000 air traffic controllers who ignored his order to return to work. Society didn’t collapse and – gasp – democrats could not return to the days of slavery.
Walker will make the union parasites work an honest day for their paycheck.
burqa May 8th, 2015 at 3:04 am
You did not address the point made in your reply to it.
I take it you agree with the Reagan quote or find it impossible to rebut.
The debate point goes to William.
No points for those who try to slip-slide and change the subject.
Nope, that’s a loser tactic, just like letting others read your history for you and tell you what to think.
StoneyCurtisll May 8th, 2015 at 2:41 pm
I have seen some delusional people who make comments on line..
Some are just misguided, others brainwashed to tow the party line..
Others are like yourself, who appear to be lost in a time warp, and willfully ignorant of facts.
But you do make an easy target for mockery…(for that I applaud you)
rhzszm May 8th, 2015 at 1:59 am
Democrats
burqa May 8th, 2015 at 2:49 am
You’re just shooting yourself in the foot. The GOP will not get African American votes until they propose policies that the African American community supports. An apology for past policies would be helpful, too. As long as the GOP tells them what they should think and hvae no reason for blacks to voyte for them, the GOP will continue to lose national elections.
FACT: The 1964 Civil Rights Act was written by LIBRUL Democrat Nicholas Katzenbach and was put in the platform of the Democratic Party in 1960 by LIBRULS.
FACT: The 1964 Civil Rights Act was introduced at the command of LIBRUL Democrat President Johnson.
FACT: The man who shepherded the 1964 Civil Rights Act through Congress was LIBRUL Democrat Hubert H. Humphrey.
FACT: The man who, to break a tie, brought in a LIBRUL congressman from the hospital on a bed with an IV drip going was LIBRUL Democrat Lyndon Johnson. Without that vote the 1964CRA would have died.
FACT: The minority of Democrats who opposed the 1964 Civil Rights Act were conservatives and the Republicans who voted for it were LIBRULS, primarily from the northeast, well known as a breeding ground for RINOs.
Nice picture, though. Do you know who any of those people are in it who seem so happy?
rhzszm May 8th, 2015 at 2:02 am
……
burqa May 8th, 2015 at 2:33 am
HA! HA! Love it when a conservative endorses what LIBRUL RINO Republicans did and opposes conservatives because they were Democrats like Strom Thurmond.
More history for you: The Great Depression occurred when we had an economic policy much like what Republicans advocate now. Fortunately, the American people threw them out and put the Democrats in power who enacted the New Deal which featured economic growth more than twice that under any president since (over 8.5% GDP).
The Democrats then went on to lead the nation to victory in World War II and create the policy that won the Cold War.
Next time you enjoy a weekend, thank the Democrats. They invented weekends for the American people as well as the concept of being paid time-an-a-half for overtime. They also abolished child labor.
While some conservative Democrats did indeed oppose civil rights legislation, it was Democrats who wrote, introduced and shepherded through Congress the most important civil rights legislation, whereas it was Republicans who kept trying to introduce watered down laws that would more preserve the status quo than anything else.
Republicans are also the Party of Recession. Since 1900:
Number of recessions since the one in 1899-1900: 23
Number of Democratic Party presidents: 8
Number of Republican Party presidents: 12
Democrat presidents with a recession that began on their watch: 4 out of 8
Republican presidents with a recession that began on their watch: 10 of 12
Republican presidents with multiple recessions that began on their watch: 6 out of 12
Democrat presidents with multiple recessions that began on their watch: 2 out of 8
Recessions that began under a Republican administration: 17
Recessions that began under a Democratic Party administration: 6
Republican recessions handed off to a Democratic Party president: 4
Democratic recessions handed off to a Republican Party president: 1
Republican presidents without a recession that began on their watch: 2 out of 12
Democrat presidents without a recession that began on their watch: 4 out of 8
Average length of a recession beginning under a Republican administration: 16.23 months
Average length of a recession beginning under a Democratic administration: 10.5 months
Total length of recessions that began under a Democratic Party president: 5 years, 3 months
Total length of recessions that began under a Republican Party president: 23 years
Average length of a recession that began under a Republican: 16.23 months
Average length of a recession that began under a Democrat: 10.5 months
Oh, and in that time the worst political scandals we have seen have come under Republican administrations: Teapot Dome, Watergate and arms-for-hostages – Iran/Contra