Right-Wing Heads Explode Because Amtrak Engineer Is Gay
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Joe.My.God points to the homophobia rearing its ugly head because the Amtrak engineer is openly gay and has stood up for equality.
Teabagistan is ablaze tonight after the engineer of the Amtrak train that crashed in Philadelphia was identified as Brandon Bostian, an openly gay man who campaigned against Prop 8 while living in San Francisco and for gay marriage after moving to New York.
From Heavy:
Brandon Bostian, 32, has been an engineer for Amtrak since December 2010, according to his LinkedIn profile. He previously worked for four years with the company as a conductor. Bostian, originally from Memphis, graduated from the University of Missouri-Columbia in 2006 with a degree in business management and administration. He also worked as a cashier at Target while in college and previously lived in San Francisco. Bostian is gay and was quoted in a 2012 story by The Midtown Gazette about the fight for gay marriage in New York. He said he moved to New York from San Francisco and had been active in the Proposition 8 fight. “It’s kind of insulting to have to beg people for my right to marry,” he told the newspaper. “I feel like we shouldn’t even have to have this fight.” GotNews, which first reported his name, called him a “gay activist,” and many Twitter users have reacted negatively to his sexuality, claiming he may have been a “diversity” hire by the government-funded Amtrak.
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tracey marie May 13th, 2015 at 9:38 pm
The right needs to be destroyed, this is ridiculous
whatthe46 May 14th, 2015 at 1:10 am
they forget (why are they repukes i don’t know) that there are gay repukes too. (again, why i don’t know). they also vote and if they continue to attack them the way they are doing, they will never lead this country. there are also parents of gays who are repukes (again, i don’t know why) that love their children and will not stand for this rethoric. they don’t need to go to home depot to buy a shovel to dig their graves, i have one i’ll give to them for free.
Hirightnow May 14th, 2015 at 8:09 am
I’m wondering what would happen if a black lesbian voted Republican…
Wouldn’t the Universe implode?
whatthe46 May 14th, 2015 at 9:35 am
lol
madjayhawk May 14th, 2015 at 5:47 pm
There are black Republicans, Hispanic Republicans, women Republicans, gay Republicans, poor Republicans, rich Republicans, honest Republicans, crooked Republicans, Republicans that lie, Republicans that don’t lie, Republicans that belong to unions, Republicans that don’t belong to unions, etc.
What is the term that is used to define people who think of people different from themselves in terms of stereotypes? Is it ‘bigot’?
tracey marie May 14th, 2015 at 6:01 pm
shut up, reading your comments you are projecting your bigotry.
madjayhawk May 14th, 2015 at 6:43 pm
That is ridiculous. Please explain what you mean.
A bigot is a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially : one who regards or treats the members of a group (as a racial or ethnic group) with hatred and intolerance.
Apparently you hate and are intolerant towards Republicans because, judging from your comments you regard and treat Republicans with hatred and intolerance. It is not nice to be a hater.
tracey marie May 14th, 2015 at 6:44 pm
I will explain nothing, I will state you are a brietbart conservativechick projecting and trolling on LL.
Anomaly 100 May 13th, 2015 at 9:41 pm
That explains the accident. Also, too, abortion.
thinkingwomanmillstone May 14th, 2015 at 12:49 pm
and raining on the school picnic.
Annie May 13th, 2015 at 9:47 pm
Take away his food stamps!
Lorraine Easterling May 13th, 2015 at 9:48 pm
These rightwing nuts are not Christians. There is nothing about them that says Christ like.
katkelly57 May 13th, 2015 at 10:21 pm
Gandhi said the same…‘I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.’
ValianThor May 13th, 2015 at 10:02 pm
And so his last relationship flamed-out. Have we learned nothing from Lufthansa? Two engineers in the compartment of a what, 100 ton caravan, gonna cut into the margin? We’re paying for it.
Obewon May 13th, 2015 at 10:18 pm
After Lufthansa: a minimum of two pilots/navigators that must remain in commercial airline cockpits is the new rule.
Amtrack Engineer-error has nothing to do with airplane fatalities.
ValianThor May 14th, 2015 at 12:47 am
You’ll just keep on paying for it; just like all the rest of us saps.
rg9rts May 14th, 2015 at 1:21 am
Meanwhile the gopee in its wisdom cuts $300,000,000 from the amtrac budget and this section of track is due to upgrading to auto control which would have prevented the accident ….SAP
ValianThor May 14th, 2015 at 1:46 am
Its after the fact, d/s.
tracey marie May 14th, 2015 at 1:57 am
lol, dipchit, the decision was made before hand, just like cutting the embassy security.
ValianThor May 14th, 2015 at 2:04 am
Keep parroting the Left and Right newsies–lest your heads explode.
tracey marie May 14th, 2015 at 2:07 am
keep posting stupid and upvoting yourself loser
madjayhawk May 14th, 2015 at 5:40 pm
The equipment was at the site already I understand. They just hadn’t installed it yet on that stretch of track.
rg9rts May 15th, 2015 at 12:32 am
It was installed…..on the other side
tracey marie May 14th, 2015 at 1:57 am
paying for what?
causeican May 14th, 2015 at 9:24 am
You poor saps.
tracey marie May 14th, 2015 at 1:58 am
why do you upvote your own trolling comments?
ValianThor May 14th, 2015 at 2:17 am
Hey, wide-mouth bass: Just pay double- 600 mil. That will assure that Amtrak hasn’t been dragging their feet.
tracey marie May 14th, 2015 at 2:21 am
what are you babbling about?
ValianThor May 14th, 2015 at 2:56 am
Alan has just a passing acquaintance with the facts. By his own posted figures, the transportation bill was actually 270 mil. short of last year. But why quibble over a paltry 30 mil.? Let Congress app. 1.6 bill now. Surely the Republicans can afford that…..as well as the rest of us. Surely that will insure implementation of that “auto-control” feature that they’ve been dragging their feet over these many years ;=)
Hirightnow May 14th, 2015 at 8:06 am
You know, I got drunk last night, too.
But I stopped posting.
madjayhawk May 14th, 2015 at 5:39 pm
The money was allocated, spent, and the equipment is there on site from what I heard. Amtrak just hadn’t installed it yet on that particular stretch of track. Doesn’t sound like a congress problem to me as it relates to this particular accident. Going 107 mph around a curve sounds like some kind of engineer or equipment (throttle stuck) problem to me. Some of us will have to wait for the investigation to find out what really happened. The rest of us can start blaming whoever we hate the most. Or be like a congressman I saw this morning: did not wait until the bodies are cold and start wildly blaming people and asking for more money. It doesn’t get any creepier than that.
katkelly57 May 13th, 2015 at 10:23 pm
Just say he was part of The Village People…that might calm them down.
YellerKitty May 14th, 2015 at 12:41 am
Presumably he was not using his penis to operate the engine. I have no idea what difference his sexuality could possibly have. My husband worked for the railroad for over 34 years. Never have I ever heard him speculate about someone’s orientation. It could not matter less.
Gadea May 14th, 2015 at 1:07 am
Going around the bend at breakneck speed is a bad idea.
Has nothing to do with anyone’s sexual preference.
rg9rts May 14th, 2015 at 1:18 am
What does that have to do with the price of coffee in Jindalstan ????
whatthe46 May 14th, 2015 at 1:19 am
not a damn thing. that’s why they said it.
rg9rts May 14th, 2015 at 1:22 am
While cutting the budget
ValianThor May 14th, 2015 at 3:18 am
Other reports show that Amtrak’s sliver is reduced by about 240mil. chump change.
William May 14th, 2015 at 11:23 am
Well it was just a matter of time.
allison1050 May 14th, 2015 at 12:29 pm
How in Hell did his sexuality even come up it doesn’t have anything to do with the accident?!
William May 14th, 2015 at 1:29 pm
Well it probably caused the crash. Remember how gay people caused all those earthquakes, tornadoes, and tsunamis? Don’t you listen to Pat Robertson?
It’s simple logic that a gay engineer incurred the wrath of the almighty and caused this derailment.
It’s all part of the gay engineer agenda.
allison1050 May 14th, 2015 at 4:44 pm
You’re right but when is someone going to tell Robertson that he’s dead?
whatthe46 May 14th, 2015 at 8:44 pm
still don’t have my attachment icon. william do you know how i can get it back? or did i ask you that already.
William May 15th, 2015 at 9:37 am
Sorry, I’m a baby boomer and a not as computer savvy as I should be.
whatthe46 May 15th, 2015 at 9:15 pm
lol
cecilia May 14th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
there are DEAD people and all those bigots focus on is ……The Gay
roll eyes
Obewon May 14th, 2015 at 8:47 pm
Overcompensating Repubs repress their only issue, falsely projecting their own Barry Manilow and Ellen fantasies.
mcalleyboy May 15th, 2015 at 2:26 am
Ugh, last thing I want to hear about is some dude from San Fran proclaiming his gayness issues but what why was he going twice the speed limit? Reason why his gayness is an issue it that the gay like to shovel on private business’s that don’t proclaim they’re for same sex, they stand out there kissing, holding hands making everybody sick actually anyone that can’t wait to do this in the bedroom is some what sick. They take down and sue business and they try to take down big business, so if he’s gay it’s a GOP news story and and a headliner.
knarf714 May 17th, 2015 at 6:33 pm
Odd I haven’t seen a single story making n issue of this guy’s sexuality until this one. All the other stories from the far left have blamed the republicans for the crash due to budget cuts that haven’t even happened yet. It is clear that the engineer did something wrong so the cover stories like this one are appearing as diversion.
OldLefty May 17th, 2015 at 6:59 pm
1) What does being gay have to do with it?
2) The GOP has been cutting Amtrak’s budgets every year.
3) What is the “far left”? Eisenhower Republicans?
knarf714 May 17th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
1. That was the point. The only article that discusses it is this one to distract from the guy’s incompetence.
2. Good, but people who can read know that safety funding was not touched.
3. The far left is the democratic party since it was hijacked by the neo stalinists and purchased by Soros.
OldLefty May 17th, 2015 at 7:45 pm
1. That was the point. The only article that discusses it is this one to distract from the guy’s incompetence.
What do we know about his competency/incompetency before the investigation is complete?
Assuming he is incompetent, why would anyone care to distract from it?
If you follow the links, there IS homophobia coming from the right about this and it is always funny, not distracting.
2. Good, but people who can read know that safety funding was not touched.
The NTSB has been calling for “positive train control” for years, and federal law requires that it be installed by the end of this year on all passenger railroads and major freight carriers.
3. The far left is the democratic party since it was hijacked by the neo stalinists and purchased by Soros.
Today’s Democratic Party is to the right of Eisenhower, but then the far right (the “tea party/Birchers” of the day) called Eisenhower a communist.
Just look up the Republican Party Platform of 1956.
I doubt most conservatives today would know a Stalinist from a Arminianist
knarf714 May 17th, 2015 at 10:29 pm
1. Wrong, not one site has made an issue of his sexuality other than this one. It is becoming increasingly clear he was not competent, the data shows the throttles were advanced before the turn, the nature of the throttles is that they must be pulled from a detente and moved to the next detente, they were designed that way to avoid accidental acceleration, if he didn’t do it who did?
2. The funding for the positive train control was there, AMTRAK has already admitted that they simply didn’t install it. The funding was there.
3. Wrong again, it is not the republicans who have moved to the right it is the democrats who have moved to the far left. The platform of the tea party emulates that of the last centrist democratic president, Kennedy, who would be considered a right wing extremist by today’s democrats.
OldLefty May 17th, 2015 at 10:48 pm
http://gotnews.com/breaking-gotnews-ids-gay-activist-train-engineer-who-caused-amtrak-crash/
And “I am not inferring to [sic] those of you who are gay rights activists and who like to monitor this show, I’m not inferring that this accident happened because he was gay,” said Rios, who hosts “Sandy Rios In The Morning” on American Family Radio. “But I do think it’s an interesting part of the story, and I bet it will be edited out.”
To name a few.
So clearly they need help with the positive train control, because the funding is not enough.
And the Teaparty of today is the John Birch Society of yesterday.
Obama is to the Right of JFK, (whom the right also called a communist.
Again, look at the Republican Party Platform.You guys would call THEM, far right wing Marxist, Maoist, Stalinists.
* TheRepublican Party platform of 1956 called for “broadened coverage in
unemployment insurance” and “better health protection for all our
people.” It vowed to “continue vigorously to support the United Nations.”
It pledged support for “progressive programs” to expand workers’ rights. It vowed an
immigration policy that ensured that America would remain a “haven for oppressed peoples.”
* The Republican Party platform of 1960 hailed the GOP’s success in extending
unemployment insurance. The GOP counted as an achievement its efforts to raise
the Federal minimum wage.
The platform hailed expanded Social Security coverage and pledged an aggressive Federal effort to help
those struggling with health care costs (in those pre-Medicare days, the
primary focus was on the elderly). It pledged to continue robust Federal
intervention to preserve the environment.
That is why today, old school Republicans are horrified at what their party has become;
SUE WAGNER, Reno’s former assemblywoman, state senator, lieutenant governor and gaming commissioner, has ended her days as a registered Republican. Wagner said she has grown tired of the GOP’s shift to the far right.
“It’s grown so conservative and tea-party orientated and I just can’t buy into that,” Wagner said. “I’ve left the Republican Party and it’s left me, at the same time.”
Former Florida Rep. Ana Rivas Logan announced her plans to leave the GOP and register as a Democrat, according to
the Tampa Bay Times.
“The GOP of today is not the
party I joined,” she said. “It’s not the party of my parents. It’s a
party that has been radicalized and held hostage by a group of extremists.”
1/31/14, Another Nevada Republican
Leaves The GOP
Days after Nevada’s first female
lieutenant governor left the GOP, a member of a notable Silver State Republican
family is following suit. The Associated Press reported
Friday that lobbyist Neena Laxalt, daughter of former Nevada governor and U.S.
Sen. Paul Laxalt (R), decided to register as nonpartisan.
~ Michael Fumento is an attorney, author, journalist and former
paratrooper who has written for National Review, The Weekly Standard,
Commentary, The American Spectator, Human Events, Forbes, Forbes.com, Reason,
Policy Review, The Spectator (London), The Sunday Times of London, The Wall
Street Journal
“I’ve written for umpteen major conservative publications –
National Review, the Weekly Standard, the Wall Street Journal and Forbes, among
them. But no longer. That was the old right. The last thing
hysteria promoters want is calm, reasoned argument backed by facts. And I’m
horrified that these people transformed our party into the political arm of
conservative Christians.”
—” BY a series of recent initiatives, Republicans have transformed our party into the
political arm of conservative Christians “-
John Dansforth – former Republican United States senator from
Missouri and Episcopal minister
~ “I still consider myself to be a conservative in the
tradition of Edmund Burke, Russell Kirk and William F. Buckley. I don’t think
most of today’s conservatives have any idea who those people were.”
BruceBartlett – policy advisor to Reagan;
~Norman J. Ornstein, American Enterprise Institute
“Let’s just say it: The Republicans are the problem.”
~Michael Smerconish
For me, the party is over,” Smerconish outlines his transformation from a Republican who found that because he wasn’t sticking to a strict party line he was being shoved into categories to someone who finally
felt he could no longer in good conscience belong to the GOP.
MichaelLofgre ; Goodbye to All That: Reflections of a GOP Operative Who Left the
Cult
~Judge Richard Posner ; was appointed to the bench by former
President Ronald Reagan, and has earned a sparkling reputation as a conservative
jurist;
“I’ve become less conservative since the Republican Party
started becoming goofy,” Posner said.
He is concerned about “real deterioration in conservative thinking”.
That’s why David Frum said, “Republicans have been Fleeced, Exploited And Lied To’ by a Conservative Entertainment Complex”
I know…. they are ALL RINOS.
That’s why you are left with only the cartoons.
knarf714 May 17th, 2015 at 11:38 pm
So the instance you point out proved my point…the only once making an ISSUE out of the guys sexuality is this article.
AMTRAK already indicated that funding was not the issue in installing the controls, admitting that it was primarily their incompetence which has been long established.
Obama is definitely not to the right of JFK, he is far to the left, JFK believed in tax cuts and limited government, he was a life member of the NRA and he strongly supported the military. He also believed in the Constitution, as opposed to Obama who doesn’t even understand the Constitution. The Tea Party has absolutely no connection the the John Birch Society which was an extremely small group.
While you cite some extreme examples, they are people who have been bought out by Soros, the former nazi bag man, the guy who bought the democratic party.
OldLefty May 18th, 2015 at 7:38 am
The intances I pointed out proves you are wrong.
This article is in response to the right wingers making an issue of the conductor’s sexuality.
(And it’s an opinion piece, not an article).
The control system, which should be programmed with specific speed limits based on work schedules, track curvature and other conditions is in service on only 50 of the 226 miles between Washington and New York.
Amtark was involved with highway-rail incidents, which the Federal Railroad Administration says rose by 7 percent per million train miles. This number refers mostly to collisions — usually with vehicles or pedestrians — at railroad crossings.
That comes from funding cuts over years. (It doesn’t matter if cuts were not specified for safety and operations when cuts were made everywhere else….money is fungible)
And Obama is far to the right of Eisenhower and JFK.
~ Kennedy;
1)”tax cuts”- Kennedy dropped dropped the top marginal rate from Eisenhower’s 91% to 77% while closing corporate loopholes.
http://taxfoundation.org/article/us-federal-individual-income-tax-rates-history-1913-2013-nominal-and-inflation-adjusted-brackets
Unlike the deficit peacocks of today’s GOP
2) “limited government”- That’s not what YOU said when he sent federal marshals to the South to escort James Meredith to classes at the University of Mississippi, and to protect MLK.
YOU guys called that “tyranny”.
Remember handbills in Dallas;
“This man is wanted for treasonous activities against the United States:
1. Betraying the Constitution (which he is sworn to uphold): He is
turning the sovereignty of the U.S. over to the communist controlled United
Nations.”
3)”life member of the NRA”- You mean when it was a gun safety club, before it became a lobbying firm for the gun industry, opposing even a ban on plasitc weapons that couldn’t be picked up by metal detectors at airports, taggant technology and smart guns?
Ask yourself why GH Bush resigned HIS membership. Could it be because they veered far,far away from any principle that JFK once embraced?
4) “strongly supported the military”- EVERY president says that and it is only a matter of opinion what that means.
For example; Reagan and Bush supported more waste, fraud and abuse while calling it support for the military.
“support for the military” doesn’t mean lining the pockets of defense contractors. I’ll put Obama against the phonies in the GOP any day.
And Obama certainly understands the Constitution more than his critics do. You guys have just gone so far over the cliff that you don’t even recognize it anymore.
Hint; Understanding the Constitution involves more than waving made in China flags and wearing tri-cornered hats.
Soros- You mean when he was 13 and made to report to the Jewish Council, and then did NOT go back to that job, and instead went into hiding?
As opposed to today’s conservatives who obediently obey the Kochs, while Papa Koch was the Stalin’s “bag man”? (also a founder of the John Birch Society which IS the modern Tea Party, right down to calling EVERYONE communists to the same hatred of John FITZGERALD Kennedy as Barack HUSSEIN Obama), and who’s ne’er do well sons have bought the Republican Party?
knarf714 May 18th, 2015 at 12:11 pm
Wrong on all counts, but you are used to that, the only people making an issue of this guy’s sexuality are those who wish to divert attention from the fact that he killed 8 people. The reason the control system was not installed had nothing to do with money.
AMTRAK and the NTSB already established that as fact. The AMTRAK internal auditors had already admonished AMTRAK for failure to complete the project. This ignores the fact that AMTRAK swhould not req
arc99 May 18th, 2015 at 12:31 pm
yes we know. the most CONSERVATIVE elements in America fought tooth and nail against civil rights.
whether those CONSERVATIVES were in the Democratic party in the 1950’s or the Republican party of the present, is a minor consideration.
not all conservatives are Klansmen, but all Klansmen are conservatives.
knarf714 May 18th, 2015 at 12:41 pm
wrong again…but you are used to that…conservatives fought the hardest for civil rights…the republican party was founded in 1854 with the sole purpose of ending slavery. the democratic party fought them tooth and nail then and it still does to maintain modern social slavery. A conservative can’t be a Klansman because klansman are the antithesis of being a conservative which is respect for the individual regardless of ethnicity etc. Klansman represent the worst of the liberals which is the domination by the collectivist state over the individual. Contrary to popular belief there are also many gay conservatives, several of my friends are conservatives who happen to be gay. I prefer people who actually think for themselves rather than spew boiler plate propaganda, their sexuality is immaterial.
jasperjava May 18th, 2015 at 6:26 pm
TheRepublican Party was not conservative in 1854, it was a left-wing liberal party that wanted fundamental economic, social, cultural, and political change. That’s the textbook definition of liberalism.
The Democratic Party in the 1800’s was the conservative party, because they wanted to maintain the status quo. they were the party of the entrenched moneyed interests in the South.
There were several realignments in history. Why do you think states of the Old Confederacy used to be solidly Democratic, and now are Red Republican states? Why do you think states like Vermont and California were rock-solid Republican for 100 years, and now would never vote for Republicans?
It’s not the basic political orientation of the states that have changed. The South is still conservative, and the northeast and west coast are still relatively liberal. It’s the polarity of the political parties that have switched.
Anybody who understands history and political science knows this. obviously you don’t.
knarf714 May 18th, 2015 at 12:45 pm
More information about why the safety system wasn’t installed…it wasn’t just AMTRAK and it had nothing to do with $$$
“Congress had required that Amtrak and other American rail companies add the
technology to their operations, but only a fraction of the rail systems were by
then covered. Had the PTC technology been in place in Philadelphia, federal
regulators say, this week’s derailment might well have been
prevented.
This isn’t just Amtrak’s problem, all the
railroads have had problems buying enough bandwidth for PTC. This was one of the
things Congress didn’t considered when they passed PTC legislation in 2008.
Software problems have also created headache.”
OldLefty May 18th, 2015 at 1:41 pm
For someone who doesn’t seem to let facts get in the way, you sure like to call others “wrong”.
Must be that old Right Wing Projection.
Neurotic projection is perceiving others as operating in ways one unconsciously finds objectionable in yourself.
Where is that report?
The most recent I can find is;
https://www.amtrakoig.gov/sites/default/files/reports/fy2014_final_audit_and_evaluation_plan.pdf
Where is the “admonishment”?
Of course Amtrak requires government like ALL big things we USED to do in these United States.
During the Reagan administration, appropriations were halved and by 1986, federal support fell to a decade low of $601 million, almost none of which were capital appropriations.[119] In the late 1980s and early 1990s, Congress continued the reductionist trend even while Amtrak expenses held steady or rose. Amtrak was forced to borrow to meet short-term operating needs, and by 1995 Amtrak was on the brink of a cash crisis and was unable to continue to service its debts.
From the 1999 Annual Report National Railroad Passenger Corp.
But, you get what you pay for.
As for; “I didn’t say anything when Federal marshals were sent to integrate schools, it was YOU who fought with all your might to prevent integration of school”…
Your ilk did.
That old, the KKK was made up of Democrats chestnut?
You know why?
Because the White South WAS raccist and the end of slavery damaged the economy their, and FDR’s policies did a lot to restore it.
After the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 (which was voted nay by almost ALL Southern Congressmen of both parties), the “Southern Strategy” was born and the South has been solidly Red ever since.
Now, the Party of Lincoln and Union has become the party of Lincoln’s assassin and secession.
Again, Obama clearly understands the Constitution better than his critics do, (who count on their audience know little about the document and never fact checking them).
What EXACTLY did Obama say?
Usually when one finds the source of the quotes , they are half truths, cut off or edited.
And no, he never thought there were 57 states any more than Bush thought people were “trying to put food on their families”.
Frankly, if I was touring so many states, and went to Pa, Ky, Ny, Oh, NC, Texas, than back to OH, then on to Va, then back to PA, I would probably say, I was in 9 states.
But that state says more about YOU than it does about Obama.
The Kochs are oligarchs and corporate socialists.
And Bush’s grandfather was a supported of Hitler as well, and lost his Union Bank under the Trading With The Enemy Act.
The Tea Party of today IS the John Birch Society of yesterday, and I have no rational reason to assume that you would not have been saying the same thing about John FITZGERALD Kennedy as you say about Barack HUSSEIN Obama back in the day.
knarf714 May 18th, 2015 at 4:34 pm
I suppose I would be concerned if you had actually cited facts rather than the standard leftist boiler plate propaganda which actually ignores reality and rewrites history to let the democrats run from their sordid past. Actually we don’t get what we pay for, we get far less than what we pay for, which is the problem.
The KKK existed well before FDR, the KKK was primarily started by northern carpetbaggers democrats who came south during reconstruction to rape and pillage and do everything they could to hinder the freed slaves from obtaining the liberty they had opposed.
The democrats invented the “Southern Strategy” to try to run from their history of bigotry.
It’s true that a Democratic president, Lyndon Johnson, shepherded the 1964 Civil Rights Act to passage. But who voted for it? Eighty percent of Republicans in the House voted aye as against 61 percent of Democrats. In the Senate, 82 percent of Republicans favored the law, but only 69 percent of Democrats. Among the Democrats voting nay were Albert Gore Sr.,Robert Byrd and J. William Fulbright.
The Republican presidential candidate in 1964 also opposed
the Civil Rights Act. Barry Goldwater had been an enthusiastic backer of the 1957 and 1960 civil rights acts (both overwhelmingly opposed by Democrats). He was a founding member of the Arizona chapter of the NAACP. He hired many blacks
in his family business and pushed to desegregate the Arizona National Guard. Hehad a good-faith objection to some features of the 1964 act, which he regarded as unconstitutional.
Goldwater was no racist. The same cannot be said of
Fulbright, on whom Bill Clinton bestowed the Medal of Freedom. Fulbright was one of the 19 senators who signed the “Southern Manifesto” defending segregation.
OK, but didn’t all the old segregationist senators leave the
Democratic Party and become Republicans after 1964? No, just one did: Strom Thurmond. The rest remained in the Democratic Party — including former Klansman Robert Byrd, who became president pro tempore of the Senate.
Former racists of both parties renounced their old views (as
Kevin Williamson points out, Johnson himself voted against anti-lynching laws and poll-tax repeals), and neither party has a perfect record on racial mattersby any stretch. But it is a libel to suggest that the Republican Party, the anti-slavery party, the party of Lincoln, and the party that traditionally supported civil rights, anti-lynching laws and integration, became the racist
party after 1964.
The “solid south” Democratic voting pattern began to break
down not in the 1960s in response to civil rights, but in the 1950s in response to economic development and the Cold War. (Black voters in the north, who had been reliable Republicans, began to abandon the GOP in response to the New Deal, encouraged by activists like Robert Vann to “turn Lincoln’s picture to
the wall. That debt has been paid in full.”) In the 1940s, the GOP garnered only about 25 percent of southern votes.
The big break came with Dwight Eisenhower’s victories.
Significant percentages of white southerners voted for Ike, though the Democratic Party remained firmly segregationist and though Eisenhower backed two civil rights bills and enforced the Brown decision by federalizing theNational Guard. They also began to send GOP representatives to the House.
These Republican gains came not from the most rural and
“Deep South” regions, but rather from the newer cities and suburbs. If the new southern Republican voters were white racists, one would have expected that Mississippi,
Alabama and Georgia would have been the first to turn. Instead, as Gerard Alexander notes in “The Myth of the Racist Republicans,” the turn toward the GOP began in Virginia, North Carolina, Texas, Tennessee and Florida. Eisenhower
did best in the peripheral states. Alexander concludes: “(T)he GOP’s southern electorate was not rural, nativist, less educated, afraid of change, or concentrated in the . . . Deep South. It was disproportionately suburban, middle class, educated, young, non-native southern, and concentrated in the growth points that were the least ‘Southern’ parts of the south.”
The Tea Party has no kinship with the JB Society that is simply a low information opinion. I have no rationale reason to beleive that you re little other than running from his past.
Actually I was Kennedy supporter but I never cared for LBJ. However Obama makes LBJ and Nixon look like paragons of integrity.
OldLefty May 18th, 2015 at 5:29 pm
“I suppose I would be concerned if you had actually cited facts rather than the standard leftist boiler plate propaganda …”
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No you wouldn’t. You just ignore the facts.
You have not cited ONE source or fact, just the usual RIGHTIST boiler plate propaganda which actually ignores reality and rewrites history to let THEIR sordid past.
Thou dost project too much, Methinks!
[The KKK existed well before FDR…]
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So what?
EVERYBODY know that the South was built on racism.
The Democrats have no need to run from their history. They saw the light and rectified it. The Republicans have picked up the mantle of racism that the Southern Democrats threw off.
YOU guys have had to rewrite history, (also why you rewrite the history books in Texas).
As for the vote for the Civil Rights Act;
Bother to do a little math and you will learn that, the majority of (R) v (D) comes from the larger proportion of Democrats in the South;
The Civil Rights Act of 1964;
Total Votes;
-The House – (Yea to Nay);
Southern Democrats: 7–87 (7%–93%)
Southern Republicans: 0–10 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 145–9 (94%–6%)
Northern Republicans: 138–24 (85%–15%)
– The Senate version – (Yea to Nay);
Southern Democrats: 1–20 (5%–95%)
Southern Republicans: 0–1 (0%–100%)
Northern Democrats: 45–1 (98%–2%)
Northern Republicans: 27–5 (84%–16%)
So you see, Democrats did better over all than Republicans, even in the South.
What’s the Republican’s excuse now??
Barry Goldwater???
So what??
He also supported gays in the military and warned against religion.
You guys would ride him out of town on a rail today.
Why do you keep giving me these old people who come from a time when the Republicans were almost progressives and Democrats were a huge majority that included a big tent when the majority of Americans were racist?
Condemned the radical foreign and domestic policies, espoused by the John Birch
Society and wealthy oil-man H. L. Hunt,…He was, then denounced by Republican
Senators J. Strom Thurmond and Barry M. Goldwater.
(And remember Eisenhower Eisenhower wrote a letter to his
brother Edgar on November 8, 1954;
“Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes you can do these things. Among them are H. L. Hunt (you possibly know his background), a few other Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or business man from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.”
As for the Republicans, do you want to go back to Lincoln? Bob La Follette? Teddy Roosevelt??
You guys would have trashed them as you trashed FDR, Truman, JFK and BHO.
Your rhetoric is the same as it was then.
Do you realize that when debating right wingers, you can almost go, “4…3…2…1…Robert KKK Byrd”?
But I guess, YOU would have been the only one with the courage to stand against YOUR community, church, family, friends, coaches, teachers, police, scout leaders…
And Byrd changed and renounced his past.
What’s the current GOP’s excuse?
-Dean Grose, mayor of Los Alamitos, sent around a picture of the White House surrounded by a watermelon garden
-Obama as an African witchdoctor
-Tea Party leader Mark Williams’ letter to Lincoln; “Dear Mr. Lincoln, We coloreds…”
-TheOctober newsletter by the Chaffey Community Republican Women, Federated says if Obama is elected his image will appear on food stamps — instead of dollar billslike other presidents. The statement is followed by an illustration of “Obama
Bucks” — a phony $10 bill featuring Obama’s face on a donkey’s body, labeled
“United States Food Stamps.
-Walt Baker, CEO of the Tennessee
Hospitality Association doesn’t seem so hospitable to Michelle Obama. Baker
sent an email comparing Michelle
Obama to Cheeta.
– Tea Party leader, Mark Williams; “We
Coloreds have taken a vote and decided that we don’t cotton to that whole emancipation thing. Freedom means having to work for real…
-Florence SC Republican Rep. Kris Crawford said Thursday he was telling a group of doctors the fight over Medicaid was a political one. “it is good politics to oppose the black guy in the White House”
– South Carolina Republican activist Rusty DePass compared an escaped gorilla from a Columbia zoo to first lady Michelle Obama’s ancestors
-Montana Chief U.S. District Judge Richard Cebull, a George
W. Bush nominee, admitted on Wednesday that he forwarded a racially-charged
email implying that President Barack Obama might have been the product of a
sexual encounter between his mother and a dog.
????????
But I’m glad you’ve got your, “The Myth of the Racist Republicans” to white wash YOUR past, it’s pretty old, been, there, done that.
As for integrity….after Reagan and Bush, you have a long, long way to go before any Democrat gets close to that.
EVERYBODY looks like exemplars of virtue and ethics compared to those two.
knarf714 May 18th, 2015 at 5:49 pm
Keep running from the past…democrats supporters of slavery and it’s modern cheap labor replacement illegal immigration..spending the last 50 years trying to explain away their racist past…Reagan,
Bush, Nixon all had far more integrity than Obama who has never opened his mouth without lying……and of course you failed to mention Congresswomen Sanchez in the list of politicians who made racist remarks…oh that’s right she’s a democrat…or how about Jessie Jackson’s “hymie town” or Lynden Johnson when discussing the great society legislation: If we pass this we will have the nig*** vote for the next 200 years.”..This pretty much describes the democrat’s platform… . I have list much longer than yours.
JFK was never trashed by the republicans, in fact he and Nixon were very close friends.
Truman on the other hand was another KKK member, the core of the democrats.
But keep deflecting I m sure it soothes your conscience.
OldLefty May 18th, 2015 at 7:35 pm
There is that old right wing projection again.
Reagan and Bush both supported immigration.
But cheap labor like;
Like whenTom Delay went to the Marianas in 1997 with Jack Abramoff, where workers were forced to live behind barbed wire in squalid rat-infested shacks minus plumbing, work 12 hours a day, often seven days a week, he fully approved of the working and living conditions.
A Department of the Interior report found that “Chinese women were subject to forced abortions and that women and children were subject to forced prostitution in the local sex-tourism industry.” The Texan’s salute to the owners and Abramoff’s government clients was recorded by ABC-TV News: “You are a shining light for what is happening to the Republican Party, and you represent everything that is good about what we are trying to do in America and leading the world in the free-market system”
Frank Murkowski, submitted a bill to extend the protection of U.S. minimum-wage labor laws to the workers in the
CNMI, which passed unanimously.
The bill was then blocked by Tom DeLay in the House.
Jack Abramoff hired Ralph Reed’s Century Strategies to “send out a mailer to Alabama conservative Christians;
“The radical left, the Big Labor Union Bosses, and Bill Clinton want to pass a law preventing Chinese from coming to work on the Marianas Islands,” the mailer from Reed’s firm said. The Chinese workers, it added, “are exposed to the teachings of Jesus Christ” while on the islands, and many “are converted to the Christian faith and return to China with Bibles in hand.”
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/28/AR2006052800964.html
“When people show you who they are believe them.”
Maya Angelou
Do YOU honestly believe that any Democrat who bothers to post on a political site does not know everything that you are reciting from the right wing echo chamber.
Again, everybody in the south and much of the US was racist, WE saw the light 50 years ago, you did not.
About LBJ and Jessie Jackson (who is to us what Pat Robertson is to you.)
The LBJ quote?? Not known for sure, but he did use the n word as did almost EVERYONE in the south in those days.
But know what?
Doesn’t matter what language LBJ used, he pushed through the Civil Rights Act, and the Voting Rights Act and the War on Poverty wherein Poverty among blacks was 55 percent in 1959 and 41 percent in 1966. By 2009, the rate had fallen to 25.9 percent. For black single moms without a father present, the poverty rate fell from 70.6 percent in 1959 and 65.3 in 1966 to 39.8 percent in 2009, and fought for Medicare, including requirement that hospitals treating Medicare patients must treat all those eligible, leading to the desegregation in the 1960s of many hospitals that had formerly excluded black Americans.
[“JFK was never trashed by the republicans, in fact he and Nixon were very close friends.”]
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I’m not talking about “Republicans” who were actually elected officials.
The Tea People of the day trashed JFK in the same manner they do BHO.
[Truman on the other hand was another KKK member, the core of the democrats.]
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Doesn’t matter what he dabbled in when he was very young and following the lead of his community.
He desegregated the military and expanded SS to cover many black Americans.
But keep deflecting I m sure it soothes YOUR conscience.
Remember Reagan’s Neshoba County Fair “states’ rights” speech?
Where “states’ rights” is code for institutionalized segregation and racism?
Remember Lee Atwater?
Betcha don’t.
My conscience is with those who brought about the most freedom to the most people in the last 80 years.
YOUR crowd quit that pursuit in the 1960′ and the old Confederacy is now the Tea party and the Republican Party.
There is a reason why black Americans don’t buy your hooey.
( Although I think you think that refutation of your talking points is deflection.)
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 5:57 pm
Bush and Reagan supported legal immigration, not illegal immigration. Actually I expected your reaction simply because I know democrats who post to political sites are well entrenched in propaganda. I do this for my amusement as it simply reinforces how ell entrenched the culture of stupidity is in the democratic party.
tracey marie May 19th, 2015 at 6:08 pm
reagan is the only President to give amnesty, fact.
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 6:52 pm
Actually that’s not a fact it’s a rather blatant lie…the facts are:
1) Reagan and Bush acted in conjunction with Congress and in furtherance of a congressional purpose. In 1986, Congress passed a full-blown amnesty, the Simpson-Mazzoli Act, conferring residency rights on some 3 million people. Simpson-Mazzoli was sold as a “once and for all” solution to the illegal immigration problem: amnesty now, to be followed by strict enforcement in future. Precisely because of their ambition, the statute’s authors were confounded when their broad law generated some unanticipated hard cases. The hardest were those in which some members of a single family qualified for amnesty, while others did not. Nobody wanted to deport the still-illegal husband of a newly legalized wife. Reagan’s (relatively small) and Bush’s (rather larger) executive actions tidied up these anomalies. Although Simpson-Mazzoli itself had been controversial, neither of these follow-ups was.
tracey marie May 19th, 2015 at 8:28 pm
amnesty by repubs, stop blaming others troll
tracey marie May 19th, 2015 at 6:09 pm
you come here to troll and post stupid.
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 6:53 pm
No the posting stupid is you…I prefer facts and history…whenever I see a ridiculous headline like the one for this story, I know it’s a propaganda site. So, I confuse the idiots with facts and watch them get defensive.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 6:56 pm
No the posting stupid is you…I prefer facts and history…
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No you don’t.
You prefer newly approved right wing talking points, meant to appeal to a niche audience.
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 7:04 pm
Ha ha ha… you are very funny…but keep it up…you are proving my point….by Mr Alinsky would be very proud of you.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 7:34 pm
Saul Alinsky????
Never met a conservative yet who knows ANYTHING about Saul Alinsky.
Real Saul Alinsky or Fictional Saul Alinsky who was invented for Right Wing World??
(and yes, ANYONE can copy paste “rules”, but do you know what they mean??)
Actually, talk about funny, I’m beginning you are a liberal doing right wing schtick, to make them look foolish.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 6:51 pm
Bush and Reagan supported legal immigration, not illegal immigration.
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So does Obama.
You had the “Family Fairness” policy implemented by both Ronald Reagan and George Bush, Sr.
IRCA gave up to 3 million unauthorized immigrants a path to legalization if they had been “continuously” present in the U.S. since January 1, 1982. But the new law excluded their spouses and children who didn’t qualify.
In 1987, Reagan’s Immigration and Naturalization Service (INS) commissioner announced a blanket deferral of deportation (same as to today’s DACA program) for children under 18.
Why in the the world would you think that anyone would think that it is not YOU who is steeped in propaganda?
Again; As David Frum said, “Republicans have been Fleeced, Exploited And Lied To’ by a Conservative Entertainment Complex”.
I have already given you a long list of Old School conservatives who become disgusted with the radical turn the party has taken.
We see it again and again as;
STUDY: Watching Only Fox News Makes You Less Informed Than Watching No News At All Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/study-watching-fox-news-makes-you-less-informed-than-watching-no-news-at-all-2012-5#ixzz3PehLjCj2
Fox News Viewers Uninformed, NPR Listeners Not, Poll Suggests
http://www.forbes.com/sites/kenrapoza/2011/11/21/fox-news-viewers-uninformed-npr-listeners-not-poll-suggests/
And please don’t bother stating that you don’t watch Fox, because you repeat the same Pavlovian talking points and use the same language from Newt Gingrich’s 1996 GOPAC Memo, Language; A Key Mechanism of Control.
Guess you have been successfully controlled.
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 6:57 pm
Sorry buddy you are wrong again.. I was waiting for the standard Fox News reference…which demonstrates that you are simply using the left wing propaganda play book, a version of Mao’s little red book that all good party members must memorize so they can goose step together. You even reference the lie about Reagan and Bush regarding amnesty…the facts are:
1) Reagan and Bush acted in conjunction with Congress and in furtherance of a congressional purpose. In 1986, Congress passed a full-blown amnesty, the Simpson-Mazzoli Act, conferring residency rights on some 3 million people. Simpson-Mazzoli was sold as a “once and for all” solution to the illegal immigration problem: amnesty now, to be followed by strict enforcement in future. Precisely because of their ambition, the statute’s authors were confounded when their broad law generated some unanticipated hard cases. The hardest were those in which some members of a single family qualified for amnesty, while others did not. Nobody wanted to deport the still-illegal husband of a newly legalized wife. Reagan’s (relatively small) and Bush’s (rather larger) executive actions tidied up these anomalies. Although Simpson-Mazzoli itself had been controversial, neither of these follow-ups was.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 7:26 pm
Sorry buddy you are wrong again.. I was waiting for the standard Fox News reference..
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Calling someone wrong all the time doesn’t make it so.
Nor does dismissing uncomfortable facts as left wing propaganda, (especially when ALL you have is Right wing propaganda, AND you ignore every reference to it.
Don’t be silly. Congress has nothing to do with Reagan’s executive orders.
AG Meese directed INS not to deport Nicaraguans and granted them work authorizations., even if they were denied asylum.
Also, executive order deferred action on Chinese nationals and Indochinese, even when denied refugee status.
Maybe you should step out of the Echo Chamber once in a while.
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 7:31 pm
It does when they are wrong. Once again, Reagan and Bush corrected problems with legislation passed by congress, they did not unilaterally bypass the legislative process and ignore the constitution.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 7:43 pm
I’m STILL waiting to hear about Saul Alinsky.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 8:17 pm
But YOU are wrong.
Once again, Reagan and Bush corrected problems with legislation passed by congress, they did not unilaterally bypass the legislative process and ignore the constitution.
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And that is EXACTLY what Obama did.
It does not matter WHEN the legislation was past.
It corrects a problem with the current law.
The president, and DOJ have authority to refuse To enforce unconstitutional laws;
1994 DOJ Memo Outlines Circumstances In
Which The President May Appropriately Decline To Enforce A Statute That He Views As Unconstitutional.
Just like;
The Clinton administration didn’t defend
a law requiring dismissal of HIV-positive service members.
George W. Bush didn’t defend a law
prohibiting the display of marijuana policy reform ads.
George H. W. Bush didn’t defend
federal statutes that required minority preferences in broadcast
licensing.
Statement on Signing the Union Station Redevelopment Act of 1981,
Pub. Papers of Ronald Reagan 1207 (Dec. 29, 1981): President Reagan stated that
a legislative veto was unconstitutional and announced that “[t]he
Secretary of Transportation will not . . . regard himself as legally bound by
any such resolution.” Id.
Statement On Signing the National and Community Service Act of 1990,
Pub. Papers of George Bush 1613 (Nov. 16, 1990): President Bush rejected the
constitutionality of provisions that required a Presidentially appointed board
exercising executive authority to include, among its 21 members, “seven
members nominated by the Speaker of the House of Representatives .
Ronald Reagan did not defend a
Congressional resolution vetoing an INS Deportation Decision.
Statement on Signing the Union Station Redevelopment Act of 1981,
Pub. Papers of Ronald Reagan 1207 (Dec. 29, 1981): President Reagan stated that
a legislative veto was unconstitutional and announced that “[t]he
Secretary of Transportation will not . . . regard himself as legally bound by
any such resolution.”
Statement on Signing the Department of Defense Appropriation Act of
1976, Pub. Papers of Gerald R. Ford 241 (Feb. 10, 1976): President Ford stated
that a committee approval mechanism was unconstitutional and announced that he
would “treat the unconstitutional provision . . . to the extent it
requires further Congressional committee approval, as a complete nullity.
Over 230 legal experts, public officials call Obama’s immigration actions ‘lawful’
The President’s Commonsense
Executive Actions on Immigration Are Lawful
For the last half century, presidents of both parties have used their authority to set priorities in enforcing our immigration laws. That legal authority has been recognized by the Supreme Court, Congress, the Department of Justice, legal scholars, mayors, and top law enforcement officials from across the nation. The organizations and individuals below have all made clear that the President’s executive actions on immigration fall well within his authority.
http://aufc.3cdn.net/b9db977873d1016b87_ghm6bx6x3.pdf
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 7:02 pm
Why would I think that it is others who are steeped in propaganda…well because I think…I know that’s a foreign concept to you but you should try it. I have read those studies that you mention, they are not studies in any scientific sense of the word.
A real study that was done by Yale found that conservatives had more scientific knowledge than liberals and in fact one interesting fact form that study was that 70% of democrats think astrology is science. I can see that kind of thinking on these boards.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 7:16 pm
Why would I think that it is others who are steeped in propaganda…well because I think…I know that’s a foreign concept to you but you should try it. I have read those studies that you mention, they are not studies in any scientific sense of the word.
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Actually, I don’t believe you did.
I don’t think you read the results nor the methodology.
Anybody can spout off this hooey without offering any refutation other than name calling.
Also; Here, for your benefit, is Kahan’s empirically based explanation of his study (not, as he points out, a Yale study, incidentally):
http://www.culturalcognition.net/blog/2013/10/19/congratulations-tea-party-members-you-are-just-as-vulnerable.html
And, Methods. Study subjects consisted of a nationally representative general
population sample of 1540 Americans who participated in the study via the
on-line testing facilities of Knowledge Networks. Knowledge Networks
(http://www.knowledgenetworks.com/) is a public opinion research firm with of-
fices located throughout the United States. It maintains an active respondent
pool of some 50,000 adults who are recruited to participate in online surveys
and experiments administered on behalf of academic and governmental researchers
and private businesses. Its recruitment and sampling methods assure a di-
http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=2182588
{A real study that was done by Yale found that conservatives had more scientific knowledge than liberals and in fact one interesting fact form that study was that 70% of democrats think astrology is science. I can see that kind of thinking on these boards.}
So?
There are a lot of poor, working people who are Democrats and a lot of Republicans who don’t believe because of religion.
Meanwhile;
Do Racism, Conservatism, and Low I.Q. Go Hand in Hand?
Lower cognitive abilities predict greater prejudice through right-wing ideology.
HOMOPHOBIA LINKED TO LOW ABSTRACT REASONING SKILLS
Post published by Goal Auzeen Saedi Ph.D. on Apr 22, 2013 in Millennial Media
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20665331
Conservatives Big on Fear, Brain Study Finds
Are people born conservative?
Post published by Nigel Barber Ph.D. on Apr 19, 2011 in The Human Beast
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/the-human-beast/201104/conservatives-big-fear-brain-study-finds
I see a lot of that in the posts of conservatives.
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 7:28 pm
This not an “empirically based” based explanation, it is his rationale to explain his findings which he had previously stated were contrary to his belief system. This is simply him rationalizing why the study showed the opposite of what he expected.
I don’t know anyone who is “homophobic” as I see nothing about homosexuals that would instill fear in anyone.
The story you reference from Psychology Today should is not science it should have been published ion the National Inquirer. Only people who think astrology is science would think that article is in any way scientific. Actually the article which started this whole discussion demonstrates more irrational fear than anything else I have seen.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 7:42 pm
So basically, nothing you state IS scientific.
From the Psychology Today piece:
“we related self-reported political attitudes to gray matter volume using structural MRI”
“Moreover, the amplitude of event-related potentials reflecting neural activity associated with conflict monitoring in the anterior cingulate cortex (ACC) is greater for liberals compared to conservatives.
Neurocognitive correlates of liberalism and conservatism.Amodio, D.M., Jost, J.T., Master, S.L., and Yee, C.M.Nat. Neurosci. 2007; 10: 1246–1247
We then used voxel-based morphometry (VBM) analyses [8] to investigate the relationship between these attitudes, expressed as a numeric score between one and five, and gray matter volume. We found that increased gray matter volume in the anterior cingulate cortex was significantly associated with liberalism.
You can read the whole thing here;
http://www.cell.com/current-biology/fulltext/S0960-9822(11)00289-2
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 6:53 pm
1) Reagan and Bush acted in conjunction with Congress and in furtherance of a congressional purpose. In 1986, Congress passed a full-blown amnesty, the Simpson-Mazzoli Act, conferring residency rights on some 3 million people. Simpson-Mazzoli was sold as a “once and for all” solution to the illegal immigration problem: amnesty now, to be followed by strict enforcement in future. Precisely because of their ambition, the statute’s authors were confounded when their broad law generated some unanticipated hard cases. The hardest were those in which some members of a single family qualified for amnesty, while others did not. Nobody wanted to deport the still-illegal husband of a newly legalized wife. Reagan’s (relatively small) and Bush’s (rather larger) executive actions tidied up these anomalies. Although Simpson-Mazzoli itself had been controversial, neither of these follow-ups was.
knarf714 May 18th, 2015 at 6:23 pm
few more:
You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking!” – Joe Biden, Vice President
“I mean you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice-looking guy.” – Joe Biden, Vice President
“[Harry Reid] was wowed by Obama’s oratorical gifts and believed the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as a Obama — a ‘light-skinned’ African American with ‘no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.’” – Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader,
“You f*cking Jew b@stard.” — Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray.
“The Jews don’t like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that’s a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes.” — Louis Farrakhan
“A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” — Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy
“Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness.” –Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights
“We got to do something about these Asians coming in and opening up businesses and dirty shops. They ought to go.” — Marion Barry
DEMOCRAT: Rod Blagojevich
QUOTE: “This guy, he was catapulted in on hope and change, what we hope the guy is. What the fuck? Everything he’s saying’s on the teleprompter. I’m blacker than Barack Obama. I shined shoes. I grew up in a five-room apartment. My father had a little laundromat in a black community not far from where we lived. I saw it all growing up.” [To Esquire in their new issue]
Complex Says: What? All he’s saying is that blackness is nothing more than being poor and shining shoes! You’re gonna let a little thing like that distract you from his long career of ethically unimpeachable civil service? Wait a minute…
DEMOCRAT: Harry Truman
QUOTE: “I think one man is just as good as another so long as he’s not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n*gger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America.”
It was the Democrat controlled Supreme Court in 1854 that ruled in the Dred Scott case blacks weren’t citizens but mere property with no rights.
In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan whose sole purpose was to destroy Republican dominated state legislatures in the south after the Civil War. The KKK and Democrats originated voter intimidation by threatening to murder blacks if they voted Republican, following through on threats, forcing blacks to take literacy test to vote and instituting poll taxes. In 1875, Republicans voted to pass the civil rights bill ending segregation and discrimination. Congress wouldn’t pass another civil rights bill until 89 years later because Democrats gained control of the House and blocked or rolled back equality laws.
After the Supreme Court 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education ended segregation in schools, southern Democrat governors refused to desegregate schools, some even closing them to avoid following the law. Democrats trapped blacks in failing schools then and still do so today. More blacks attend our nation’s subpar public schools than whites. While Republicans support school choice policies, which promote vouchers and charter schools, enabling kids to escape education prisons, Democrats oppose these policies and support teachers unions instead.
OldLefty May 18th, 2015 at 8:11 pm
_ You cannot go to a 7-11 or a Dunkin Donuts unless you have a slight Indian accent. I’m not joking!” – Joe Biden, Vice President
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And you know why Indians vote for him? (My husband is Indian)
Because they say it themselves, and he worked FOR them in the Senate. He is not seen as malicious as my examples are.
– “I mean you’ve got the first sort of mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and nice-looking guy.” – Joe Biden, Vice President
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Is he wrong? Is he implying that Obama is ” less than” and unqualified because he said that? Is he putting him DOWN, because of his race as my examples do?
He is not seen as malicious as my examples are.
– “[Harry Reid] was wowed by Obama’s oratorical gifts and believed the country was ready to embrace a black presidential candidate, especially one such as a Obama — a ‘light-skinned’ African American with ‘no Negro dialect, unless he wanted to have one.’” – Harry Reid, Senate Majority Leader,
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Again, is he wrong?
Is he putting him DOWN, because of his race as my examples do?
Do you REALLY think that a large, dark black male who said, “America, let me axe you this…” would have had a chance of becoming the first African America president? That WAS Harry’s job, when deciding whom to support)
-“You f*cking Jew b@stard.” — Hillary Clinton to political operative Paul Fray.
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That’s been debunked
https://www.nytimes.com/books/00/08/06/reviews/000806.06eakint.html
-“The Jews don’t like Farrakhan, so they call me Hitler. Well, that’s a good name. Hitler was a very great man. He rose Germany up from the ashes.” — Louis Farrakhan
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Nobody cares what Louis Farrakhan says. He’s a religious nut job.
-“A few years ago, (Barack Obama) would have been getting us coffee.” — Bill Clinton to Ted Kennedy
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Why would you think that has ANYTHING to do with race???
Kennedy was 29 years older than Obama and Clinton was 15 years older.
My daughter interned in a Rep’s office. She and the guy who interned with her got coffee.
Clinton was trying to sway Kennedy from supporting Obama to supporting Hillary based on Obama’s youth.
Again, why would you see race. (I know because ALL these “examples” are from the right wing echo chamber and it never occurs to you to engage in critical thinking.
Obama was
“Tainting the tea party movement with the charge of racism is proving to be an effective strategy for Democrats. There is no evidence that tea party adherents are any more racist than other Republicans, and indeed many other Americans. But getting them to spend their time purging their ranks and having candidates distance themselves should help Democrats win in November. Having one’s opponent rebut charges of racism is far better than discussing joblessness.” –Mary Frances Berry, former Chairwoman, US Commission on Civil Rights
She has her opinion, and I respect it but she was wrong.
Racism is their driving force
— Marion Barry??
1) Nobody’s hero.
2) He was always complaining about immigrants taking jobs away from those in the community, (like you, remember?)
3) Every Democrat called him on it.
– DEMOCRAT: Rod Blagojevich
QUOTE: “This guy, he was catapulted in on hope and change, what we hope the guy is. What the fuck? Everything he’s saying’s on the teleprompter. I’m blacker than Barack Obama. I shined shoes. I grew up in a five-room apartment. My father had a little laundromat in a black community not far from where we lived. I saw it all growing up.” [To Esquire in their new issue]
Complex Says: What? All he’s saying is that blackness is nothing more than being poor and shining shoes! You’re gonna let a little thing like that distract you from his long career of ethically unimpeachable civil service? Wait a minute…
Sounds like he’s jealous….and he is in prison where he belongs.
DEMOCRAT: Harry Truman
QUOTE: “I think one man is just as good as another so long as he’s not a n*gger or a Chinaman. Uncle Will says that the Lord made a White man from dust, a n*gger from mud, then He threw up what was left and it came down a Chinaman. He does hate Chinese and Japs. So do I. It is race prejudice, I guess. But I am strongly of the opinion Negroes ought to be in Africa, Yellow men in Asia and White men in Europe and America.”
And yet he did more to improve the lives of black Americans than any Republicans ever did. Funny, huh?
It was the Democrat controlled Supreme Court in 1854 that ruled in the Dred Scott case blacks weren’t citizens but mere property with no rights.
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The Republican party was only founded in 1854. Most people were racist in 1954.
Again, now the Republicans have traded places.
From, “In 1866 Democrats formed the Ku Klux Klan to After the Supreme Court 1954 Brown vs. Board of Education…
EVERYBODY knows this.
The vast majority of Northern Republicans and Democrats were anti-racist.
The vast majority of Southern Republicans and Democrats were racist.
The vast majority of all elected offices back then were held by Democrats.
The Northern Democrats with the help of Northern Republicans were the driving force behind ending institutional discrimination.
With the end of Jim Crow, the the Republicans saw a window, and the racists found a new home with the Republican Party.
They have been there ever since.
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 5:54 pm
No everyone doesn’t know it, only left wing extremists believe that propaganda. Typical leftist…you make excuses for comments by racist democrats…no one traded places the democrats have just traded welfare programs for the plantations and illegal immigrants for slaves.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 6:55 pm
No everyone doesn’t know it,
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Know what????
You have not told us anything new, and you have not refuted anything.
You have also not explained why ALL minorities go for Democrats.
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 7:07 pm
ALL minorities don’t go for democrats, only those whose votes have been bought and paid for…see LBJ’s quotes…I don’t need to refute anything because you have provided no facts to refute…you simply ignore history and fail to see that nothing has changed.. the democrats simply hide their racism, but LBJ’s quote explains it….
A government that robs Peter to pay Paul will always have the support of Paul.
OldLefty May 19th, 2015 at 7:47 pm
ALL minorities don’t go for democrats, only those whose votes have been bought and paid fo
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Like the African Americans, the Indians, the Asians, the Hispanics…?
Basically, people who work hard and want a fair shake, without wealth being redistributed to the the top.
That’s why they vote for the party that values money made from hard work and innovations over the party who values money made from money.
And sorry, but you are the Confederacy of the 21st century.
ohpaleasegivemeabreak May 18th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
No one knows if he acted in any way unprofessionally.
There was never enough safety money to start.
The overwhelmingly vast majority of Americans – especially Democrats – do not know or care to know who Soros is. He’s a non-entity.
You obviously do not comprehend anything about Stalinism except the part that has that evil word socialism connected to it.
You should try to comprehend who is and who is not promoting Stalinistic and other really bad policies by really really really bad people from Europe in the last century.
Go look in the mirror please.
Learn
knarf714 May 18th, 2015 at 5:57 pm
another low information response…there was plenty of safety money. Soros is far from a non entity, he is Obama’s handler nd controls the democratic party’s platform.
Wrong again…Stalin was a represents a lot worse than one form of socialism…you apparently know only just enough to know that Stalin and socialism go together but lack the depth of knowledge to know it;’s worse than that.
I have no need to look in the mirror…you re the one who needs to do some soul searching to admit to the bigotry you try to deny.
knarf714 May 19th, 2015 at 5:49 pm
Many in Washington and across the country this week have asked about technology called Positive Train Control (or PTC), which regulates speed and prevents train crashes through a special alert system. Amtrak has been working all year to make a December 31, 2015 deadline to install a type of PTC called Automatic Train Control (or ATC) throughout the Northeast Corridor. Amtrak has been given the resources to install their PTC technology, and yet has chosen to spend resources elsewhere.
Amtrak’s decision not to install ATC on this particular curve was not due to a lack of funding. Amtrak chose not to install ATC on the side of the curve departing the station because they never expected a train leaving the station to accelerate so quickly.
ohpaleasegivemeabreak May 18th, 2015 at 5:38 pm
At least one of the peeps on fox made a big ugly issue out of it.
Said it was a FACTOR in the wreck.
Dunno how it could have been unless she believes that being gay is a debilitating disease.
knarf714 May 18th, 2015 at 5:59 pm
I don’t see where anyone made a point of it or tried to relate it to the wreck. They also discussed thew background of the pilots of the recent mysterious plane wrecks.