We Were Warned: Right-Wing Extremists Bigger Threat Than Muslims
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Just two days ago, in an editorial called “The Other Terror Threat”, the NY Times warned us: Despite public anxiety about extremists inspired by Al Qaeda and the Islamic State, the number of violent plots by such individuals has remained very low. Since 9/11, an average of nine American Muslims per year have been involved in…
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illinoisboy1977 June 18th, 2015 at 4:41 pm
Logically speaking, ANY extrimist is dangerous. By their definition, an extrimist is one who subscribes to extreme ideologies and advocates extreme acts of opposition, often up to and including violence. Right-wing, left-wing, Muslim, Christian, Enviornmental, etc. Extremists from all of those groups have committed acts of extreme violence and/or disruption. Extremism, as a philosophy, isn’t limited to any ONE group.
anothertoothpick June 18th, 2015 at 5:23 pm
Not true
Hirightnow June 18th, 2015 at 5:55 pm
.” Right-wing, left-wing, Muslim, Christian, Enviornmental”
I’ll give you this: you managed to lump about a dozen different groups under that first (non-bold) word….
(But I agree to the point that extremism is dangerous)
fahvel June 19th, 2015 at 3:18 am
not all!!!! I know extremist artists and athletes whose energy is well directed – the word should be used with care and not as a general comment.
arc99 June 18th, 2015 at 6:29 pm
But what is limited to ONE group is the resistance to any attempts at protecting ourselves against the extremists in that group.
Or have you forgotten the self-righteous wailing of the right wing BS machine when DHS published a report that in retrospect was remarkably accurate
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/dhs-report-warns-of-right-wing-extremists/
Conservatives are up in arms about a report from the Department Of Homeland Security entitled “Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic And Political Climate Fueling Resurgence In Radicalization And Recruitment.” (Here it is, in PDF form.)
The report is “one of the most embarrassingly shoddy pieces of propaganda I’d ever read out of DHS,” writes Michelle Malkin, who deems it a “piece of crap report” that serves as “a sweeping indictment of conservatives.”
Gert Brown June 18th, 2015 at 7:19 pm
Except when it is the Democratic Party supporting Irish terrorist murderers then it is okay.
Larry Schmitt June 18th, 2015 at 7:27 pm
Who said that was okay?
Gert Brown June 18th, 2015 at 7:34 pm
Th tens of thousands of Democrats who over the last forty years gave money to the IRA?
Larry Schmitt June 18th, 2015 at 7:52 pm
You’re sure there were no republicans giving money also? Seems to me it was mostly Irish, regardless of their political party, who gave.
Obewon June 18th, 2015 at 7:53 pm
(R-NY) Rep. Pete King is a HUGE IRA confirmed terrorist donor!
Gert Brown June 18th, 2015 at 9:22 pm
Of course there would be Republicans but the connections between the IRA, the IRA Provisionals, Qaddafi’s arms suppliers, Irish-American organisations moving money around and shipping weapons and many figures in the Democratic party is a matter of historical fact.
As one commentator put it in the UK after 9/11 (I paraphrase him). ”Well, now the folk of New York know what it is like to be attacked by terrorists. Maybe they will now stop supporting them.”
Obewon June 18th, 2015 at 7:56 pm
“For (R-NY) Rep. Pete King) Lawmaker Examining Terror, a Pro-I.R.A. Past”-Pulitzer Prize winning NYT, DHS, et al. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/us/politics/09king.html
tracey marie June 18th, 2015 at 9:55 pm
you are an idiotic troll forget about king
Obewon June 18th, 2015 at 7:46 pm
Reality by DHS: “An attack by right wing radicals is either carried out or foiled every 34 days” in the USA via DHS Secretary Jeh Johnson. Partial list of FBI Crime Data linked Terrorism Directed At ‘Liberal’ And ‘Government’ Targets July 2008-2011. http://crooksandliars.com/david-neiwert/violence-directed-liberal-and-govern
Just 31% of U.S. households own guns but commit 2/3 of Homicides in America: USA “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year (1 per day) in the decade after 9/11, causing a total of 254 fatalities”-^Story above^-Look up, R E A D and educate yourself Gert!
Gert Brown June 18th, 2015 at 8:01 pm
I am not denying or contradicting any statements made here about events in the United States. But when it comes to getting preachy about terrorism, Democrats might do well to remember that thousands of their party members were complicit in the murder of over two thousand British citizens.
After 9/11 laws were rushed through to stop money going to terrorist organisations. The first two organisations shit down were not Islamist or Muslim, nor Christian or hard right. they were Irish-American organisations with close links to the Democratic Party.
The reason this still has relevance is that he hate of the British by Irish Americans is still voiced online using violent forms of hate speech. That problem lingers on.
And during the height of the troubles some of the things that were said by senior democratic Party politicians were tantamount to the advocacy of ethnic cleansing of Protestants from Northern Ireland. Teddy Kennedy said they should be ‘repatriated’! They are descended from communities that have been in Ulster for twice as long as the United States has existed. If they have no right to be there what right does the United States have to exist?
Obewon June 18th, 2015 at 8:28 pm
Any comment on this articles posted topic? E.g. USA “right-wing extremists averaged 337 attacks per year (1 per day, minus frozen February) in the decade after 9/11.”
Even (R-NY) Peter King debunks your GOP TV fantasies as troll scat.
tracey marie June 18th, 2015 at 9:53 pm
I gave you the benefit of the doubt, not anymore. You are a troll and you are a deflector
fahvel June 19th, 2015 at 3:15 am
Damn TM, I always get on too late and miss the deleted goobers – must be the time difference.
tracey marie June 19th, 2015 at 4:19 pm
I usually do as well. A week or so ago I saw this poster and called her out. long story short, I apologized …my initial assessment was correct.
tracey marie June 18th, 2015 at 9:55 pm
you mean king, the republican?
StoneyCurtisll June 18th, 2015 at 8:18 pm
“Logically speaking, ANY extremist is dangerous”…
Especially the ones with weapons~!
Dwendt44 June 18th, 2015 at 4:51 pm
Shhhh! you’re not supposed to say that. Right wing nut jobs will get their panties in a wad.
Hirightnow June 18th, 2015 at 5:53 pm
And here’s the sickness in Florida…
StoneyCurtisll June 18th, 2015 at 8:15 pm
Probably a good thing it wont let me view the comments at OS.
whatthe46 June 18th, 2015 at 8:21 pm
what’s OS?
StoneyCurtisll June 18th, 2015 at 9:05 pm
The Orlando Sentential. (news paper in Florida)
whatthe46 June 18th, 2015 at 9:06 pm
will it make my eyes bleed?
Hirightnow June 19th, 2015 at 7:02 am
It will make your brain bleed, with some of the deflection going on.
whatthe46 June 19th, 2015 at 9:57 am
lol
Hirightnow June 19th, 2015 at 7:03 am
Wonder why not; you don’t have to register to read the comments…
Roctuna June 18th, 2015 at 7:25 pm
Can’t expect hard data to sway any opinions though. The right knows what it knows. By definition they’re not open to new information.
OldLefty June 18th, 2015 at 7:29 pm
A recurring theme in Arundhati Roy’s book, The God of Small Things was that one second can change your whole life.
It is always amazing that one second and one deranged wacko can cause so much damage and change lives forever.
Obewon June 18th, 2015 at 7:59 pm
Teabola! Or Ben Ghazi right?
Nope.
USA’s 31% of gun owner households commit 2/3 of 32,000+ annual U.S. gun deaths!
Red Eye Robot June 18th, 2015 at 9:27 pm
Mike Bloomberg who just spent $50,000,000 of his own money on gun control says 95% of murders are committed by non white males between 15 & 25 and we need to get guns out of their hands
tracey marie June 18th, 2015 at 9:53 pm
why is it all you loser teabaggers deflect?
whatthe46 June 18th, 2015 at 11:20 pm
because stupidity feels good? and because he lies.
tracey marie June 18th, 2015 at 11:27 pm
that cracked me up. 🙂
whatthe46 June 18th, 2015 at 11:51 pm
you’re rubbing off on me. lol.
tracey marie June 18th, 2015 at 11:54 pm
Naw, you are still nice.
whatthe46 June 19th, 2015 at 12:15 am
sweetie pie, i can’t hold a candle to you. you rock! lol
whatthe46 June 18th, 2015 at 11:21 pm
you poor little parasite. lol. i’m sorry, i should know better than to laugh at people who elect to be tards. but, fk it. LOL
Obewon June 19th, 2015 at 1:58 am
Nope. Google says you lie, “8 results (0.57 seconds) “
William June 19th, 2015 at 1:09 pm
It’s a bit of a stretch (even for a right ring tea-troller) to bring up Bloomberg and un unsubstantiated quote when commenting on a story about a right wing extremist.
Tim Coolio June 18th, 2015 at 9:59 pm
If you want an example of the rightwing wild wild west gun culture in America, this is it.
whatthe46 June 18th, 2015 at 11:19 pm
and the waco incident/murders/fighting/gun coral, didn’t mean a damn thing to them, so it goes on.
AAASuperPatriot June 18th, 2015 at 10:17 pm
Remember when Fox News and conservatives when ape-nuts over that report about the dangers of domestic extremism?
http://thinkprogress.org/politics/2012/08/07/645421/right-wing-extremism/
America deserves an apology from conservatives.
whatthe46 June 18th, 2015 at 11:18 pm
Americans should vote conservatives out of existence, if they truly want a free America! a truly peaceful America!
richardstarr June 19th, 2015 at 5:53 pm
Right … Like liberals never got us into wars.
Oh wait, there was that whole Vietnam thing started by Kennedy and LBJ.
And who exactly was president during WW2??
Ah yes, that really conservative guy known as FDR.
And of course Woodrow Wilson that staunch conservative who lead us
during WW1.
Funny, could have sworn they were all progressives and liberals.
whatthe46 June 19th, 2015 at 8:59 pm
guess you never heard of dwight eisenhower (repuke) “
whatthe46 June 19th, 2015 at 9:02 pm
“Eisenhower promised Diem that the United States would make a greater contribution to the stability of the government. By the end of 1955, Diem, backed by the US, had full control of Saigon and most of South Vietnam. – kennedy took over where eisenass left off, and he did regret it. but, he didn’t start it.
richardstarr June 20th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
The point was not that Republicans don’t get us into wars, Bush is more than sufficient
evidence of that, it was in response to the statement that everything would be peaceful
under Democrats, which is obviously nonsense.
And Kennedy was actually looking to pull us out. He was murdered and LBJ jumped into the war business with both feet.
greenfloyd June 18th, 2015 at 10:25 pm
I will not add anything to this discussion, for now, until after a respectful interlude which gives space to the many victims of last nights horrendous act of violence by a seriously deranged young man.
Then, by all means, let’s put violence in America under the microscope, understand and correctly categorize it so we might better quell it.
whatthe46 June 18th, 2015 at 11:16 pm
“Then, by all means, let’s put violence in America under the microscope, understand and correctly categorize it so we might better quell it.” and how do you propose that when you have the disgusting “anchors” on faux spews, spewing hate and bigotry day after day after day? when they say a 14 y/o black child, gets what she deserved, even when the mayor denounces that type of behavior from a police officer? when they “glorify” people like this? when they send money to a gofundme fk page for abusers? how, when you have generations of hate, for no reason they can even convey? when you have politicians on the wrong side of “right” wanting to sabotage everything the commander in chief does, because he’s a “man of color?”
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greenfloyd June 19th, 2015 at 4:24 am
I notice the lights back on, the church has resumed with a child’s choir practice this afternoon. The pause was too brief, I’m still numb from the shock… been shaking it off all day. I feel better now but I want to focus on the NYT opinion by Kurzman and Schanzer.
I agree with the threat distinction between these 2 groups, yet I think a lot of those “other threats” should also go into the domestic terrorism bucket. There is a 3rd much larger group that figure in many more of those 215,000 murders then the first two groups combined.
So, if we put violence in America under a microscope, it would seem you could see this 3rd group (sub-culture really) without adjusting the magnification. What comes into view isn’t pleasant and instead of being third on the list of “Threats” it should be number one.
anothertoothpick June 19th, 2015 at 7:44 am
This person’s entire self-worth comes form the fact that there’s this whole other group of people he can look down upon and dominate.
If you are not better than people of color, who are you better than?
Wild_Bird June 19th, 2015 at 8:08 am
Liberals are like maggots, feasting on the carcass of the American republic.
EnuffBull June 19th, 2015 at 9:18 am
You are the problem with America. Get out of our free country, you ignorant c#ntservative troll.
Wild_Bird June 19th, 2015 at 7:57 pm
You are one very, very sick puppy. Indeed, you’re clearly a psychopath.
Dr. Lyle Rossiter, a board-certified clinical psychologist, wrote an excellent
book in which he diagnosed the ideology of people like you on the reactionary Left as a tangible mental illness. Perhaps though, reactionary leftism is not so
much a novel mental disorder, but a more cleverly disguised form of illness
already widely studied since the late ‘60s – narcissistic personality disorder
(NPD).
The petulant narcissist prima donna Barack Obama clearly has an acute case
of NPD.
The Mayo Clinic defines NPD as “a mental disorder in which people have an
inflated sense of their own importance and a deep need for admiration.” This seems in tune with the fact that leftist loons, along with their degenerate
offspring, the rancid, bedraggled Occupy Wall Street movement, believe their command and control collectivist policies and platforms fall in the majority – which they don’t.
dave-dr-gonzo June 19th, 2015 at 10:03 pm
A person who proclaims “You are one very, very sick puppy” and then projects their own psychological pathology on people with whom he or she disagrees by calling them “degenerate
offspring,… rancid [and] bedraggled” clearly needs psychiatric help.
However, it is recommended that he avoid one quack named Lyle Rossiter, whose book “The Liberal Mind” has been an ongoing punchline within the psychiatric community. Rossiter makes Dr. Keith Ablow look sane and stable by comparison.
Wild_Bird June 20th, 2015 at 1:30 pm
Did Wild_Bird hoit your widdle wiberal feewings?
The truth hurts doesn’t it? Indeed, Dr. Rossiter described you and your ilk to a T.
anothertoothpick June 19th, 2015 at 10:03 am
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booker25 June 19th, 2015 at 8:19 am
And who stirs the pot of hate with a big ol fat stick?? AM hate radio and Fox network.
allison1050 June 19th, 2015 at 10:57 am
And other media that ONLY report on Muslim extremism. They still don’t acknowledge what minorities say or how they are treated because it’s the easy way out.
richardstarr June 19th, 2015 at 4:24 pm
What exactly makes this kid “right wing”? Seems kind of arbitrary.
I’ve yet to read a list which both sides of the aisle agree on as definitions of the “wings”.
He’s certainly a racist. If he’s trying to scare people into doing stuff he’s a terrorist.
And killing people when not an act of self defense marks him as a murderer.
tracey marie June 19th, 2015 at 4:56 pm
let’s think about who wants to attack black people as thugs and moochers…reps/teabaggers
let’s think about who are members of WS, who are against equality…repubs/teabaggers
let’s think about who wants to make marriage equality against the law….repubs/teabaggers
who carried racist signs calling a black man running for President a monkey, gorilla, witchdoctor and the “n” word….repubs/teabaggers
there, it should be easy for you to figure it out and stop with the both sides garbage.
richardstarr June 19th, 2015 at 5:45 pm
Try again.
About the only thing that you said that holds is the anti-gay marriage thing being part of the GOP, and that’s kind of withering away as we speak, which is why the whole trans thing is coming out as the current frontier.
And I’ve yet to see any serious evidence associating the tea party movement with racism. Oh, I’ve heard claims, but no video to back it up.
As to racist imagery, I’ve seen quite a few things attacking black members of the GOP.
Here are a couple of non-pornographic ones.
http://www.wnd.com/2006/07/37251/
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/381573/whiteface-vandalism-republican-candidates-sign-tim-cavanaugh
The difference being when a black democrat is attacked it gets nationally talked about. When a GOP member is attacked its swept under the carpet.
The whole left vs right is too simplistic in any case.
I personally am a fiscal conservative and generally social liberal.
Meaning I think we need to spend within out means and that if gay people want to get married, why should we stop them?
I don’t belong to any political party and try to choose the best person
that’s left on the ballot. The primary process sadly limits the choices
to special interests like unions and large corporations. *shrug*
dave-dr-gonzo June 19th, 2015 at 10:07 pm
Tea party rally with race-pimping “Kenya” sign
http://aattp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/am.bryant.tea_.party_.naacp_.cnn_.640×360.jpg
dave-dr-gonzo June 19th, 2015 at 10:08 pm
Tea party rally with racist, Islamophobic sign http://www.motherjones.com/files/imagecache/node-gallery-display/photoessays/20100912_zaf_mv2_008.jpg
dave-dr-gonzo June 19th, 2015 at 10:09 pm
Tea Party rally features racist “Willis” sign. And no, he does not mean Bruce, Sparky… http://d35brb9zkkbdsd.cloudfront.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/04/racism.jpg
dave-dr-gonzo June 19th, 2015 at 10:10 pm
Racist “Kenya” Tea Party rally sign. Someone should tell the signmaker that there is no apostrophe in the possessive “its.” http://www.loonwatch.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/tea_party.jpg
dave-dr-gonzo June 19th, 2015 at 10:11 pm
Racist Tea Party rally sign, Auschwitz-on-the-Potomac edition! http://aattp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/jews.jpg
dave-dr-gonzo June 19th, 2015 at 10:13 pm
Racist Tea Party rally n-word pun sign. http://aattp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/RacistObamaPic32.jpg
dave-dr-gonzo June 19th, 2015 at 10:14 pm
“And I’ve yet to see any serious evidence associating the tea party movement with racism.”
Reeeeally.
Well, Spatrky, one of two things is true:
1) You don’t spend a whole lot of time following politics and activism in not-so-postracial America; or
2) you’re a Goddamned liar.
See below.
jasperjava June 20th, 2015 at 12:33 pm
“What exactly makes this kid “right wing”? ”
Ummm… Racist, pro-segregation, pro-apartheid…
Does that sound like a liberal to you?
Those are typical conservative characteristics .
richardstarr June 20th, 2015 at 4:14 pm
Nope. Those are attributes attributed to them by the liberals.
Who was in charge of the South while segregation was going on?
Who was in charge in the US when all of the anti-apartheid measures were created?
Here’s a hint.
http://articles.sun-sentinel.com/1986-10-28/news/8603060384_1_africa-anti-apartheid-act-economic-sanctions
The original law was vetoed and overridden by a majority of BOTH parties.
You also need to know some context .
Part of the problem was that Mandella was a communist and refused at that time to
give up supporting violence as a tool for change. Reagan also believed the sanctions
would be slow to act. He was both right and wrong on this one. *shrug*
To his credit, he immediately acted to implement the law because he knew it was his
job as president to enforce the laws of the land, not just the ones he liked.
jasperjava June 20th, 2015 at 6:42 pm
Conservatives were in charge of the South during Jim Crow. Just because they called themselves Democrats doesn’t make them any less conservative. That’s why the conservative Dixiecrat wing left the Democratic Party and aligned itself with the Republicans. That’s why the conservative South used to be Democratic, and now solidly Republican.
richardstarr June 20th, 2015 at 9:59 pm
Ah yes, the old dixiecrat concept where magically all the liberal GOP members decided to become Democrats and conservative Democrats joined the GOP. Problem is, its not based on reality.
When you look at the Democrats who voted against the voting rights act and see how many changed parties, you find exactly one who did so. Meanwhile a “former” grand dragon of the KKK went on to lead the Democrats for decades.
jasperjava June 21st, 2015 at 12:19 am
If you’re talking about Robert Byrd, in 2008 he enthusiastically endorsed a mixed-race Black man for his party’s nominee as President of the United States. I’d say he redeemed himself.
But racists like you will never forgive him for that.
How many white supremacists and Klansmen do you suppose voted for Barack Obama? The President enjoys the overwhelming support of his party, while all the racist haters seem to be on the other side. Why do you suppose that is?
As for the political realignment of right-wing racists, don’t you think it’s odd that the conservative South used to be solidly Democratic, and is now solidly Republican? Or that liberal states like California and Vermont were Republican for 100+ years, and now are Democratic strongholds?
You think it’s more likely that vast swaths of the nation changed their political orientation, rather than the parties? You’re the one with magical thinking.
richardstarr June 21st, 2015 at 5:36 am
*yawn*
So Byrd decided power was more important than his racist
ideal, BFD. And you are playing fast and loose with the
racist label to say the least.
California became Democrat after the amnesty.
It’s no surprise that new voters who happen to be poor
would vote for people promising them more “free stuff”.
Add to this the increase in the population by illegal aliens
which are counted for purposes of the number of representative
who move into areas populated mainly by Democrats you get a
vast increase in political power. It’s why they are fighting a
law suit that charges the districts of diluting the powers of
some, mostly Republican, voters, by their presence.
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/27/us/supreme-court-to-weigh-meaning-of-one-person-one-vote.html?_r=1
And you continue to call the Republicans racist, but fail to back it up with actual evidence.
jasperjava June 21st, 2015 at 8:50 am
Your post is evidence enough.
You are so steeped in racism, you don’t even realize it.
Just stay in your racist right-wing bubble. People like you are disappearing bit by bit, year after year. Soon your type will be extinct, and that day can’t come soon enough.
richardstarr June 21st, 2015 at 3:53 pm
Ah, I get it, anyone who disagrees with you and calls you on your bull “must” be a racist. smh.
1) I don’t believe in any race being better than the others.
2) I do believe that cultures can be.
For instance, one that mutilates little girls is not a good one.
3) I don’t fall under the category of “right wing”. I happen to be
pro-choice and I’m fine with people marrying whomever they
want. I do believe in fiscal responsibility and that heaping
mountains of debt on future generations to pay of political
favors comes under the category of a “bad thing”.
4) An I have not now, nor will I ever likely be, a member of a
political party. People that vote primarily by party affiliation
deserve the corrupt scum that end up getting elected. Too
bad the rest of us have to suffer from “your” ignorant choices.
Sadly, you kind of self righteous hypocrites will not be going away. Every generation breeds fat too many idiots like yourself.
allison1050 June 21st, 2015 at 4:14 pm
TROLL!
tracey marie June 21st, 2015 at 4:36 pm
says the trolling idiot
Chinese Democracy June 21st, 2015 at 4:37 pm
silly libertarians… all they are is conservatives that smoke pot and are under 70 yrs old
Oh if you dont like people assuming you are a right wing dolt using specious arguments. Then why do you type what a right wing dolt would?
richardstarr June 21st, 2015 at 7:13 pm
Nope, don’t smoke pot, though I do think it should be legal.
And attempting to label an argument something its not to avoid
dealing with its truth is childish.
Chinese Democracy June 21st, 2015 at 8:15 pm
11 questions to see if libertarians are hypocrites
wanna play?
http://goo.gl/tbr1Mn
richardstarr June 21st, 2015 at 11:43 pm
You really have a reading comprehension problem.
Such an obsession of labeling people.
As I’ve stated before, I don’t belong to ANY party, which means, my mentally challenged friend, that I don’t belong to the Libertarian party either.
Chinese Democracy June 22nd, 2015 at 12:52 am
libertarianism isnt a PARTY its a philosophy …
I think you have over stayed your welcome at the party lol
Mentally challenged? You havent been much of a challenge yet. I hoped for more
richardstarr June 22nd, 2015 at 11:22 am
And you want to label me with a specific philosophy so your mind can put things into simple boxes and reduce the need to think. smh
Chinese Democracy June 21st, 2015 at 4:36 pm
This is going to surprise you… its not magic! Conservatives with conservative values and racist tendencies used to call themselves Democrats.. They can call themselves fairies… or cats or whatever they want. But the simple fact of the matter is they are still conservative in their world view.
Like today instead of southern Democrats they now call themselves tea baggers ( I like that name)
re read if its to hard for ya
richardstarr June 21st, 2015 at 7:15 pm
So you like to claim.
Oh, I know the Democrats in power in the South used to push and
pass racist laws and regulations. There is plenty of proof of that.
Most of the stuff you are pumping out is just the old propaganda to
help explain to any one that cracks the history books that hey,
everyone switched sides and we are really the good guys.
Sadly, enough people buy into it.
Chinese Democracy June 21st, 2015 at 8:13 pm
So I like to claim… yeah cuz its the truth prove otherwise PROVE otherwise prove that the southern Democrats where racist liberals
richardstarr June 21st, 2015 at 8:33 pm
You are the one’s calling them liberal/conservative.
I just look at the voting records and laws passed.
Those are far easier to indicate racism.
Passing various social programs and pork and not things
that are necessarily conservative or liberal.
You are the one attempting to paste the label on the conservatives.
So, show me the Jim Crow type laws pushed by the GOP.
Please, show me the laws pushed by them to have separate
water fountains or to sit at the back of the bus.
The Democrats became “friends” of the minorities when it was
that or lose power. LBJ’s quote in “Lone Star Rising: Lyndon Johnson and His Times, 1908-1960”,
by Robert Dallek. Johnson defended the Supreme Court appointment of the
famous Thurgood Marshall, rather than a black judge less identified
with the civil rights cause, by saying to a staff member, “Son, when I appoint a n—–r to the court, I want everyone to know he’s a n—–r.”
There is another quote attributed to him about getting the “N” to vote Democrat for 200 years because of the welfare programs.
Of course since the coming of those programs we’ve seen the
destruction of the family unit and a loss of the progress the black Americans were having economically till that point.
You had a million black men benefiting from the GI BIll, but after the start of the welfare state their children were discouraged from getting married by state programs that rewarded women who had kids out of wedlock. Single parent families are economically weaker than those with committed partners.
Chinese Democracy June 22nd, 2015 at 12:53 am
Yeah Im calling them liberal / conservative what do you call em ? Dog / Cat ?
richardstarr June 22nd, 2015 at 11:20 am
You want to label people with racist ideals as conservative so that you can tar the reputation of all conservative and thus push forth your liberal agenda.
So, the two separate shooting events this weekend in Detroit, each with more people shot though not as many killed. What were those shooters political agenda? Oh right, it was black people shooting black people, so you don’t care.
whatthe46 June 22nd, 2015 at 1:46 am
yeah. he’s get the “duh” award!
Talibandrew Breitbot June 20th, 2015 at 10:32 am
“Show me a ‘leader’ of some kind.”
Oh, looky! Changing the goalposts now that I HUMILIATED you by posting racist Teabagging rabble.
Here’s a video of one Tea Party leader playing the race card and calling for that shiftless Obama to be deported to Kenya.
It took me exactly 8 seconds to find.
Usually I would remind an imecile such as yourself that this is not the nanny state and you should get off you own lazy ass and look it up yourself.
But then, as I already know that you are too much of a pussy to do anything that would tear down your jaundiced, shallow worldview, I decided to do it myself, because it is kinda perversely fun to shoot fish in a barrel.
So here’s your “‘leader’ of some kind,” asshole:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HcqAaT7c0wE
richardstarr June 20th, 2015 at 4:02 pm
You showed random idiots and laid claim that everyone follows them.
At least you showed and active politician in your video but, oops, after saying stupid stuff they did not elect him, imagine that?
Shall I start pointing out all the Democrats in California and New York that have been getting arrested for corruption lately and state that of
course that means EVERY/MOST of them are corrupt and just not caught yet? smh.
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 1:22 am
It seems viewing all conservative as the same as this kid is kind of like how this kid viewed other people, don’t you think?
whatthe46 June 22nd, 2015 at 1:45 am
not even close.
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 2:26 am
Maybe you are right. But it seems that the right and left have too much hate for one another.
whatthe46 June 22nd, 2015 at 2:42 am
still not even close. hate seems to come from one faction of a particular party, and that’s the right (wrong). how many left are committing mass murder “’cause race'” “’cause gender'” “’cause religion'” cause government? the majority of conservatives, “christian” are no more conservative or “christian” than the satan they say they despise. i know some christians who are beautiful people, loving and kind and caring, i know some atheist, who are so loving and kind and caring. i am a spiritual person, i don’t belong to any religion, because i don’t need religion to define me. and i respect those who are. but, i don’t have an ounce of respect for those who use it as an escape from responsibility. and they are the rwnj’s, false “chrisitans” haters, racist, bigots and hypocrites. but, that’s just my opinion.
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 2:47 am
You feel all conservatives are bigots and hypocrites?
whatthe46 June 22nd, 2015 at 2:54 am
ok, i stand corrected. not all conservatives are bigots and hypocrites (you didn’t mention racist). however, i feel all bigots (if not most) and hypocrites (if not most) are conservatives. not all repukes are racist, but all racist are repukes. who are you? what do you stand for?
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 3:10 am
Do you have to say repukes? I mean its fine that you feel that way, but is there a necessity to it?
Anyhow I am a Midwesterner mostly conservative, but I am a little all over the map with my ideals.
whatthe46 June 22nd, 2015 at 3:42 am
repukes? because i’ve never heard a republican denouce racism, sexism, bigotry, speak to a womans right to choose, and so much more. they speak as thought they are hard bound “christians” when they are NOT! they talk so LOUD and yet do just the opposite. most, if not all don’t give a damn about the working class or poor. for goodness sake, look at what just happened in SC! they won’t even acknowledge it was out of hate! they blame our president! it makes me sick. not one liberal, not one democrat, has ever taunted the president of our country like the conservatives. i will wait for a response and try and answer, but, i’ve so got to get to bed. i’m a black female that has a job and has to go to work in a few hours. not saying that you doubt that. just sayin’
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 3:50 am
How many republicans do you know?
Do you really feel we are all KKK members?
As far as you being a black female, I only look for your quality of character and nothing more.
I am sure your world is probably a little different than mine.
Anyhow have a goodnight.
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 6:24 am
“what do you stand for?” This is a good question. This helps break the limitation of “conservative” or “liberal”.
I guess you could say I am a fiscal conservative.
Conservative in that I prefer less government. When the government becomes too big and overbearing like a home owners association it starts to affect every little detail of your life. I feel less is more, and keep it simple. On the other hand I am not so conservative in the social aspect. I feel like someone’s right end were another’s begins.
I don’t care who gets married to who. I am not interested in abortions, as it does not affect me. And I am not really Christian.
The Bible may have some good lessons, but as a whole not so much.
I can see your point of thinking conservatives are oppressive, but to put everyone in a predetermined category is a problem.
Anyhow, have a great day.
whatthe46 June 22nd, 2015 at 2:49 am
also, what hate did those in the SC African American Church, have against roof? they welcomed him. they saw him as a brother. white, black, hispanic, asian, it didn’t matter to them right. they were (huge chance) on the left. they didn’t hate him. yet he hated them, even when he said they were nice to him. FOR A FK’N HOUR, he spent with them in prayer. so, please don’t respond to me, not because i will “hate” you, but because if you say anything to the contrary, i will just be pi$$ed about the fact that you will probably say something stupid. and, yes, i maybe wrong, but, i’m likely not.
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 2:56 am
I did not mean to imply anyone at the church were practicing hate in any way. and I am truly sad about what happened there. I also in no way condone this kids atrocious act. It just seems to me in the media setting and internet boards everyone is so angry at each other.
Maybe I spend too much time on message boards.
whatthe46 June 22nd, 2015 at 3:16 am
this whole discussion hurts my heart. we shouldn’t even be talking about this. but, we are. and unless we face, head on “racism, bigotry, and discrimination, we will never get over it.
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 3:19 am
I totally agree that racism and bigotry have no place in this world.
The problem is that is does exist. I can’t pretend I know how to fix it. The only thing I can say is that anger should never be the emotion you make decisions with.
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 3:02 am
You already seem tense towards me. I am not here to force an opinion. I do admit I may be wrong in some of my views on things. But I am willing to see things from other points of view. Sadly not everyone has patients enough to discuss things anymore.
whatthe46 June 22nd, 2015 at 3:09 am
then, i am woman enough to apologize and listen to your point of view.
Super D June 22nd, 2015 at 3:12 am
Basically my point is this. I don’t like to be categorized with this kid. Now do you see the hypocrisy?