Gun Lobbyist Larry Pratt Blames Pastor For Shooting That Killed Him
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Larry Pratt of Gun Owners of America says it was pastor Clementa Pinckney’s fault for opposing a bill that would have allowed guns in churches.
In an interview…with Houston-based talk radio host Sam Malone, GOA’s executive director Larry Pratt (Erich’s father) doubled down on the accusation, claiming that the pastor, Rev. Clementa Pinckney, had left his congregation “defenseless” by opposing a bill that would have required churches to allow the concealed carry of firearms.
“The president and those that look at the world the way he does seem to be unshakably wedded to the idea that no defense is a good defense,” Pratt said, referring to President Obama’s remarks on the shooting. “And there you had a church where this horrible act was committed, where the pastor was a state senator who was a leading anti-Second-Amendment, pro-civilian-disarmament sort of guy. So when the dirtbag struck, he was pretty confident there wasn’t going to be anybody shooting back because they all believed that no defense is a good defense, that’s what they’d been preached about. It’s just, it was so needless. There was nobody who was able to resist.”
“It was a gun-free zone, thanks in part to the pastor, the state senator,” he said, blasting the pastor who supported keeping a policy that allows churches to choose whether or not to allowed concealed carry, or, as Pratt cal
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labman57 June 20th, 2015 at 2:03 pm
Further evidence that members of the NRA’s leadership lack both a conscience and a soul.
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 2:53 pm
But yet his comment was factual…
Carla Akins June 20th, 2015 at 3:50 pm
Again, no it wasn’t. It was an opinion, not a fact……
bpollen June 20th, 2015 at 4:28 pm
No facts in evidence from Pratt or you. But you both are long on asinine opinion…
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 4:35 pm
Please state how his comment wasn’t factual….I’ll wait.
bpollen June 20th, 2015 at 4:46 pm
The Pastor was ONE vote. His ONE vote was not the only vote. Ergo, HE didn’t leave anybody defenseless. Now, if you can show how legislation in SC is solely dependent on HIS vote and not at all on the vote of OTHER legislators, then you will have a fact.
Did you hold your breath while waiting?
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 4:49 pm
His intent was that there be no armed citizens. He spoke that and voted that way….he is partially to blame.
bpollen June 20th, 2015 at 5:05 pm
So, now you are adjusting your position. Because of facts. Now, he’s partially to blame for his own murder because he voted in a way you don’t agree with? THAT would only be a fact if Roof KILLED HIM AS A DIRECT RESULT OF THAT VOTE! Roof’s stated reason was to start a RACE WAR, not pro-2nd-Amendment terrorism.
You can’t show cause and effect – that one vote in the legislature led inexorably to some whack-job shooting up the church. Not the least of the reasons being that you can’t show that the congregants WOULD have been armed had he voted otherwise and then WOULD have prevented the Pastor’s murder. Remember Jared and Amanda Miller? The “good guy with a gun” in Walmart is just as dead as the Pastor and GGWAG WAS ARMED.
So, you can’t show a direct connection between the vote and Roof’s actions, you can’t show that his voting differently would have resulted in a bunch of armed parishioners, and you can’t show that having armed parishioners would have prevented the Pastor’s death.
All you can do is, like Pratt, make shite up out of whole cloth.
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
All you can do is keep making people be unarmed victims… Just like the pastor.
bpollen June 20th, 2015 at 5:16 pm
Sad, really. You can’t refute me, so you can only resort to playground style taunts: I know you are but what am I?
Bet you have a man-crush on Nugent.
Obewon June 20th, 2015 at 5:53 pm
It’s Darwinism’s fault! Gun owner households plummeted to 31% in 2010, down from 50% in the late 1970’s.
BigDumbWhiteGuy June 21st, 2015 at 12:14 am
Do you blame people killed by drunk drivers for being on the road?
fahvel June 21st, 2015 at 4:14 am
waiting in out outhouse? peer at reality through the little crescent moon of your tiny mind.
tracey marie June 20th, 2015 at 2:31 pm
Such disgusting behavior from these types.
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 2:55 pm
Facts bother you?
tracey marie June 20th, 2015 at 2:57 pm
stormfront is that way ammosexual troll——>
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 2:58 pm
Who is trolling? You make a personal attack and I asked if the factul comment bothers you?
tracey marie June 20th, 2015 at 3:02 pm
stormfront, take your racist ammosexual ass back there.
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 3:03 pm
So you can’t answer the question..got it..
rg9rts June 21st, 2015 at 5:57 am
Look in the mirror butt wipe
bpollen June 20th, 2015 at 4:30 pm
It almost seems like there is an early warning system for ammosexual trolls…
“Hey, they’re talking about guns, everybody go there and bury them in stupid!”
whatthe46 June 20th, 2015 at 5:09 pm
“…bury them in stupid!”” funny as hell.
Bunya June 20th, 2015 at 3:30 pm
What “facts” are you referring to? The fact that the U.S. holds the world’s record in gun related deaths? The fact that it’s relatively easy for an unstable person to get his/her hands on a killing device? The fact that it’s easier to discharge a handgun than it is to operate a car?
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 3:42 pm
Or the fact that the subject of this article stated a factual comment and many have gone nuts calling him a racist…idiot etc..
Bunya June 20th, 2015 at 3:49 pm
It’s true the pastor voted against a bill that would allow parishioners to bring guns into churches. Maybe he felt that killing devices weren’t necessary to have in the house of God, where peaceful people come to pray. But blaming the pastor for his own death is ludicrous.
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Larry Pratt is right about one thing. If everyone in the church had been armed, the results would’ve been different. Instead of 9 fatalities, the death count would’ve been double.
Carla Akins June 20th, 2015 at 3:50 pm
It is not a fact, it’s an opinion. No one knows what “might” have happened if the law were different. Pratt is a lowIQ gun whore, that has never had a complete thought his entire life, his credibility level is non-existent. What he thinks, means so very little – if he wasn’t so offensive no one would ever have noticed him.
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 4:00 pm
Well the fact is if the law had passed the victims “could” have been armed…
however he voted against it and none of them were “allowed” to be armed..
see the difference?
NW10 June 20th, 2015 at 5:31 pm
And the fact is those nine people would still be alive if he didn’t have the gun in the first place. This is why these shooting events keep on happening, we don’t focus on the SHOOTERS and have allowed you gun loons to pollute the airwaves with the “WE NEED TO BE ARMED!” rhetoric.
Carla Akins June 20th, 2015 at 7:48 pm
They could have been armed anyway whether or not the law passed, they could have been bit by a radioactive spider and turned into Spiderman, they user the power of three and cast a spell – still conjecture and not a fact.
jybarz June 20th, 2015 at 9:07 pm
You’re a fcking IDIOT!
fahvel June 21st, 2015 at 4:12 am
thanks. I was about to call him worse but you have satisfied my need to call him a mofo putain cul without a shred of feeling in his/her empty soul. Wow, just couldn’t stop.
BigDumbWhiteGuy June 21st, 2015 at 12:47 am
You do know that people can carry concealed in churches in South Carolina, right? They simply have to get the church’s permission. The bill that he voted against would have forced churches to allow concealed carry on their property. Even if the law had passed, there’s no guarantee that anyone there would have been armed.
Obewon June 20th, 2015 at 3:50 pm
Even the NRA convention banned guns insisting on ‘a gun free zone.’ D’oh!
Bunya June 20th, 2015 at 3:59 pm
The NRA held a convention that banned guns? Now, THAT should say something about this Pratt guy. He’s blaming the pastor for having a “gun free zone”, yet the NRA is gun free. Talk about hypocrisy. This guy should throw his hat into the presidential ring, running on the GOP ticket.
Carla Akins June 20th, 2015 at 3:54 pm
Pratt is a racist, he’s made dozens of racist comments publicly in the last year alone. Pratt did not state a fact, did the Pastor vote against – yes. But even if he hadn’t there is no reason to think it would have ended any differently. None of those in the prayer group felt the need to carry a weapon to protect themselves in church – Pratt’s comment is an opinion, not a fact and holds absolutely no water, like virtually everything else he says.
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 3:58 pm
Try again…if you vote against something that has the ability to allow you to protect yourself…and then later killed because of that fact..well you are partially responsible for your own demise..
Bunya June 20th, 2015 at 4:14 pm
oh that’s good. “Gee Mrs. Wilson, I’m sorry your 16-year-old son was gunned down while he was walking to school but, you know, his death is partially your fault because you didn’t allow him to carry a revolver in his backpack. I mean, he could’ve been alive today if it weren’t for you.”
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 4:18 pm
Not quite…
Bunya June 20th, 2015 at 5:35 pm
Explain that to me. How does one who votes against allowing KILLING DEVICES in church responsible for his own death? I would think a deranged kid who had easy access to a firearm would be responsible for the murder of 9 people – but that’s just me.
Carla Akins June 20th, 2015 at 7:52 pm
It also has the ability to get you killed or your child or grandchild unintentionally killed and blaming the victim is a chickenshit way to wiggle out of responsibility and accountability. Only a dishonest person with no critical thinking skills would resort to such patently ridiculous excuse.
Screamingsanity June 20th, 2015 at 8:35 pm
Don’t you think it’s rather stupid to have gun free zones then?
rg9rts June 21st, 2015 at 5:55 am
Public places should be gun free…period
BigDumbWhiteGuy June 21st, 2015 at 12:10 am
Go figure you’re blaming the victim. I’m willing to bet that you blame rape victims if you think their skirt’s a bit too short too.The 9 people in Charleston weren’t killed because their Pastor voted to not allow concealed carry in churches, they were killed because a drug-abusing thug bought the racist rhetoric put out, in part, by the Council of Conservative Citizens.
rg9rts June 21st, 2015 at 5:54 am
Do you openm carry to church too…or you just skip the church part and try to intimidate everyone that has the misfortune to cross your path
Dwendt44 June 21st, 2015 at 12:18 am
And the NRA is doing all it can to make getting a gun even easier. Doing away with waiting periods, lobbying to allow ex-cons and those with orders of protection lodged against them.
rg9rts June 21st, 2015 at 5:53 am
You wouldn’t know a fact if it bit you in the brain…even if it makes it tough to sit down
Obewon June 20th, 2015 at 3:41 pm
‘More guns deliver more murdered to the pearly gates’-Larry Pratt of Gun Humpers of America.
bpollen June 20th, 2015 at 4:26 pm
This isn’t a Pratt-fall (though I would laugh at him if it were,) it’s more of a Pratt-fail.
NW10 June 20th, 2015 at 5:28 pm
Asshole.
Suzanne McFly June 20th, 2015 at 5:29 pm
Quit sugar coating your thoughts please lol
Glen June 20th, 2015 at 11:48 pm
You know, the most fascinating and disturbing part about all of this is that, even as they blame the pastor and claim that it was lack of guns in the church that enabled this to happen, they also assert that the time of a tragedy like this isn’t the right time to talk about gun control because emotions are running too high.
It’s too early to talk about gun control, but the right time to talk about increasing the spread of guns, after a shooting. That’s right – it’s only gun CONTROL that is inappropriate discussion at a time like this, apparently.
Seriously, America, you need to look at Australia. We’re the perfect model for you when it comes to the topic of guns. A conservative PM, in response to a big massacre, decided to put in place strong and effective gun control that has resulted in a dramatic drop in gun crimes and no gun massacres in the 19 years since, despite the years before it seeing quite a few smaller gun massacres.
Warman1138 June 21st, 2015 at 4:27 am
How many guns are enough?
rg9rts June 21st, 2015 at 5:51 am
Never enough nor ammo either
rg9rts June 21st, 2015 at 5:50 am
The old blame victim trick
rg9rts June 21st, 2015 at 4:44 pm
He looks like an evil gnome