June 12, 2016 5:29 pm -


That’s what he said in 1989 before he suddenly declared himself a Christian during his presidential campaign.

Donald Trump spoke about his faith this week in an interview with columnist Cal Thomas, boasting of his “great relationships” with ministers and the clergy and predicting he will do very well with evangelicals in the general election.

“I’m going to treat my religion, which is Christian, with great respect and care,” Trump said in the interview. And on who Jesus is to him, Trump answered, “Jesus to me is somebody I can think about for security and confidence. Somebody I can revere in terms of bravery and in terms of courage and, because I consider the Christian religion so important, somebody I can totally rely on in my own mind.”

Trump, over the course of the election, has played up his Presbyterian faith in typical Trump fashion as a way to appeal to evangelicals — praising the Bible by saying it is even better than his book The Art of the Deal and answering that his favorite verse is “an eye for an eye.” But throughout his career in public life before his presidential run, Trump’s actual views of religion and his own personal faith have been difficult to pin down.

In a lengthy 1989 profile with the Chicago Tribune, Donald Trump said he did not believe in heaven or hell but that the dead “go somewhere.”

In the profile, Trump was asked by reporter Glenn Plaskin if he was worried about his own mortality. “No,” Trump answered. “I’m fatalistic, and I protect myself as well as anybody can. I prepare for things. But ultimately we all end up going.”

Trump was heading up the stairs to dinner when he turned back to Plaskin, contemplating the afterlife. “No,” he said. “I don’t believe in reincarnation, heaven or hell — but we go someplace.”

“Do you know,” he said, “I cannot, for the life of me, figure out where.”




D.B. Hirsch
D.B. Hirsch is a political activist, news junkie, and retired ad copy writer and spin doctor. He lives in Brooklyn, New York.